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On the shoulders of giants: a new multiple choices LP!

Omicron

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C
 

oscar

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Ughh who would want C and to become some boring, maritime, commercial trader people. Your really ruining the horse-lord, terror from the steppes people I have imagined.
 

Lindblum

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This is what I imagined for C.
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Boring?
 

Curufinwe

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I can officially rule out Cthulhu for the foreseeable future.

Unless I suddenly grow tired of this and seek a thinly-veiled excuse to drop the project altogether. :D
 
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B) Hearken brethren, for I have had a vision! Last night I saw a great and powerful spirit sit on top of the mountain, covered in dark clouds and obscuring mists. The great spirit compels us to travel to the heavenly rock spire and seek out its strength.
 

SCO

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Shadorwun: Hong Kong
There's going to be a few major floods in this region, better get your ass uphill. Agriculture is not a going concern for a while and it's defensible (and no one will want that territory for a while).

Ocean is a obvious bad idea, do you want your village to be tsunami'd? More frequent than active volcanos.

Ocean shore will also be a hotly contested territory, what with all the fishing and clam picking. Either B or A.

Plus going up there will make the tribe sink or swim - they need to learn to cure hides, create shelters, create fire, feed on animals without killing them, hunt and set snares/pits (since hunting on snow at night is a bad idea), gather and stockpile fuel and food (think about the future!), preservation of food (if you have ice and fire it's inevitable 2+2) etc.

It would also make the fire religion much more important.

A) is a more sane option though.
 

Lindblum

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I picked Ocean because of all the negatives, Mountains are a really good choice but not really a fan of Dwarf Fortress.
Also the mountains are located East, Mountain in the North are the best Mountains.

Those who survive the drowning may suddenly become very attuned to the signs of mother nature.

Contested territory is pretty entertaining, war and all. Best to gain experience first.
 

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We're already skilled and adapted to plains life, stick to it. Living by the sea is the worse thing we could pick, it involves none of the skills we've picked up (basic animal husbandry and fire) and is boring compared to life on the open steppe where we can refine our school (with the eventual aim of zebra riders) or the prospect of ore in the hills.
 

Vernydar

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Well, I'm still thinking about what I should vote, but we went from forest to something like savannah and there's zebras around.
So if we assume a relatively dry climate, it could also be a very big lake, because the ocean tends to make the climate more wet. Like the ones that are/were for example in Africa. If it's a big lake and not an ocean, it could mean fresh water. And a LOT of animals we can hunt when they come to drink from the lake.
Then again, mountain could mean a fresh water source, either a brook, or maybe a mighty river.

I have to consider this...
 

SCO

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Yeah well, fixed gatherers tend to be bum raped by nomadic gatherers.
 

Lindblum

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What are the odds of finding metal ore close to a shoreline/ seaside cliff? Is it natural?

Its a risk but the advantages of the Ocean from a military standpoint is just too good not to get used too. Flanking etc.
 

SCO

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Its a risk but the advantages of the Ocean from a military standpoint is just too good not to get used too. Flanking etc.
wtfamireading

Do you remember how celts (ok, the Cimbri, Teutones and Tigurini) defeated the romans? Yeah, you're the romans in this situation. Straight up against a impassible obstacle where you can't retreat.
(edit: mixed up the victor)

edit: vote the race to be black as sin, to annoy the resident racialists.
 

Lindblum

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The link was helpful as didn't know what you were talking about before the Edit.

Edit: Hmm so are we Neanderthals or Homo Sapiens?
 

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By a beach is easily the least defensible location of the options. Vulnerable to raids from the sea and I'm not even talking about Vikings. Primitive canoes and wakas can be and were frequently used by stone age cultures to raid from the sea. If the attack comes via land then its easy for the attacker to encircle and hem us in.

I'm not saying the ocean doesn't have advantages if we're going down a sedentary route (steady food supply in fish). But why do that when we can become badass steppe, nomads people. Considering the vast amount of time in prehistory (200,000 years in the Middle Paleolithic era) I'd say we're virtually guaranteed to get tsunami'd or flash flooded. And that isn't even the kind of disaster or struggle that kills off weak genes.

The great plains are safe and the great plains make us strong.
 

Lindblum

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By a beach is easily the least defensible location of the options. Vulnerable to raids from the sea and I'm not even talking about Vikings. Primitive canoes and wakas can be and were frequently used by stone age cultures to raid from the sea. If the attack comes via land then its easy for the attacker to encircle and hem us in.

I'm not saying the ocean doesn't have advantages if we're going down a sedentary route (steady food supply in fish). But why do that when we can become badass steppe, nomads people. Considering the vast amount of time in prehistory (200,000 years in the Middle Paleolithic era) I'd say we're virtually guaranteed to get tsunami'd or flash flooded. And that isn't even the kind of disaster or struggle that kills off weak genes.

The great plains are safe and the great plains make us strong.
Alright changing to A.
Still I hope something that makes this world unique appears soon.
 

Curufinwe

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Placeholder post: votes for now are A:5, B:6, C:4. Just to help me along in the count.

Regarding Neanderthal or Sapiens, I'd lean on Sapiens. Easier on me, I already have enough crap planned out without having to completely figure out the step by step evolution of a different species :p
 

Vernydar

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B
A young worshipper of Fire loudly states his opinion

"Let us head towards the huge rock! High up, closer to the sky our Fire spirit will surely be pleased, since it came down from above. And also, we may find even more powerful spirits!"
 

Esquilax

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We aren't going to be a sea people - that's not where our strengths lie at the moment. Makes more sense to move in the direction of the largest group of zebras, i.e. A. I like B's potential for creating a civilization of Crom fire-worshipping badasses who crush their enemies, see them driven before them, and hear the lamentations of their women. It'll be hard to make our zebras maneuver up the mountains, though we may find some goats that might be more useful in that environment to domesticate. However, I feel that given the situation we have and our current skills (animal husbandry, fire), A seems to be the one that makes the most sense.

It's kinda funny how our people have managed to tame zebras, and are presumably on the way to domesticating them, considering every other attempt to domesticate them has failed. Unlike horses, zebras are way too aggressive to be domesticated on that scale.

A: Follow the main herd, leaving the forest forever behind, towards the endless plains.
 

Curufinwe

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It's kinda funny how our people have managed to tame zebras, and are presumably on the way to domesticating them, considering every other attempt to domesticate them has failed. Unlike horses, zebras are way too aggressive to be domesticated on that scale.

A: Follow the main herd, leaving the forest forever behind, towards the endless plains.

Not everything has to make total scientific sense:
1) I'm not omniscient (for example, I had no idea zebra domestication was ever attempted in huge numbers)
2) As Lindblum points out, if we go the regular old boring Earth route 100%, things will risk getting stale further on.

But feel free to kick me in the ass if I say something so monumentally stupid it doesn't make a sliver of sense. :p
 

Esquilax

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Haha, no big deal, I'm just nitpicking. I realize that this isn't meant to be a 100% accurate depiction of Earth (nor would I want it to be, honestly), I just found it interesting.
 

Curufinwe

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Sure. I must say I had expected the suggestion to come up, sooner or later, so I didn't name it myself. Feel free to give proposals. When a sufficient consensus is reached we will name the tribe whatever it's going to be named.
 

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