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Okay, let's go over the shortlist of things that may concern Vaarna.

1. Sci captains now have an APA-For-Science. If your Sci Captain isn't flying something Sciency, your ability is useless. This means you, Vaarna, Sci in a Snoozer.

2. Leech doesn't count as Sciency, since it is now useless.

3. Plasma Exploders are vendortrash. Sci console slots are once again a dump for Uni consoles.

4. If you were using Strategist, your ship is a brick. MAKE AUX2BATT GREAT AGAIN!

5. FAW has been nerfed to death. Welcome back to Escorts Online!

Those are the points which immediately concern Vaarna.
1. Fukka.
2. Elaborate what they have done to Plasmo?
3. Dodged that bullet with laziness, yay!
4. Elaborate?
5. Fukka.
 

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2. The power you get from the Leech no longer scales its now fixed at 0.7 per shoot meaning you get around 8 extra power thats a fucking joke, its only place is with pure Drain builds as its entirely useless outside it, you might as well just put the Biogel or Zero Point consoles. I guess is that is because people were all running high powered ships with AMP cores because, you know, having a functional brain does that so they are trying to cut down on power, one of the changes is they make all weapons drain power as before the first weapon had no power cost, I guess the Vesta pack sold REALLY BAD since this is very much "buy our Vesta Pack and ignore that" (since you can make the Aux having a "free" shoot as it drains Aux)

4. Attrition Warfare now has a longer cooldown and a smaller impact at each rank. I didnt see the specifics but it seems the only thing people used it for, AW, was rendered inoperative because of this shithead obsession with timers and you know whats funny? the only thing that can make people to continue to play the game mechanics wise is specialization because they cannot add new classes/professions yet these FUCKING RETARDS keep making then non-choices, you better off with the main 3 that bother with specialization, take OSS that was the ONLY FUCKING ABILITY WORTH SLOTTING AFTER THAT DUMBFUCK BORTICUS RAPED SURGICAL STRIKES, its also now worsthless ... why? Because this moron (that is not Borticus, I cannot blame him for this shit as his name is not on it) decided that a random subsystem being disabled for FIVE FUCKING SECONDS is totally acceptable trade-off that fucking isnt, its 5 seconds I cannot fire my weapons or worst, 5 seconds without shields or engines. If we did that to their PREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECIIIIIIIOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS NPCs they would just given immunizes or nerf whatever we used on then, the players can eat crow.

The only silver limning is whatever the fuck they expect this to solve population wise aint happening and considering Borticus apparently inst involved in this shitfest means this Associate Systems Designer is likely to be shown the door ... on in case you are curious ...

https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-leavens-868ab3100
 

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6. You get 6 power. Bigger joke.

So, you can put down "Fukka" there, too. Now if you don't mind, I could use your stuff...for...science reasons.
 

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6. You get 6 power. Bigger joke.

Its especially bad for me or Roms because we used the Leech to bypass the -40 power bullshit we have to pay because Muh Gimmick Singularity Abilities ... with the current changes we get just 24/6 power when we are shooting at things and why? because that fucktard wants it to be inline with the power consoles so instead of boosting them so they are a choice, he just removed the choices entirely, not worth the slot ... never mind the Leech had high power because it requires to be shooting at things, there is a downside to it on the way it functions, its not we get 40/60 power just by having the damn thing slotted.

And there are no choices for consoles that generate power, Leech was it ... power consoles are just +5, zero point is 1.8, Biogel is 2 making even the Leech still the better option after that moron had his way it on top of a pinball machine. It just shows how much of a fucking idiot that guy is, or how someone (its Rivera) is calling the changes knowing they arent going to go well so he is the fall guy when the shoe drops, that someone (Al Rivera) gets away with it as the fall guy is shown the door because its his name on it and someone just thrown him under the bus for decisions he was forced to sign his name on.Not he doesnt deserve it if thats true since like all idiots he is walking around all smug ... just wait until a month after and lets see how smug mister "I made a Scimitar use Pilot Abilities in Holodeck" will be.

In fact I suspect a lot of these downsides will be removed entirely by ship traits or lockboxes, its not hard isnt it ... ship Trait: +50 accuracy and 10% energy damage during Fire at will ...
 
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Likely some garbage weapon that cannot hit a stationary target with a 2m cooldown time and if it did, would not even make drop the shield facing.
 
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there's something i don't understand. most of the shit drakon just told is real since the first months, because everything had to be tailored so that feds would win easy in pvp. nerf after nerf after nerf after nerf, 99% of the stuff in sto is garbage, useless crap which makes no difference. but why? nobody play pvp anymore. it hasn't been played for years! it'd be time to do something useful for once.
oh well, never mind, i doubt i'll ever go back to this game.
 

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Likely some garbage weapon that cannot hit a stationary target with a 2m cooldown time and if it did, would not even make drop the shield facing.

Sounds like they will behave like normal weapons rather than abilities so I really doubt they'll have more than a few seconds cooldown.
 

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there's something i don't understand. most of the shit drakon just told is real since the first months, because everything had to be tailored so that feds would win easy in pvp. nerf after nerf after nerf after nerf, 99% of the stuff in sto is garbage, useless crap which makes no difference. but why? nobody play pvp anymore. it hasn't been played for years! it'd be time to do something useful for once.
oh well, never mind, i doubt i'll ever go back to this game.

The reason is simple really ...

You see, despite STO never really been a PvP game (few are) and most of the players never been much into PvP they never given up on it entirely, with the game moving into consoles they are going for another go at it and another failure, in fact they announced their next season coming next month that will have the grand total of ONE MISSION! and a bunch of "competitive PvE scenarios", remember Kerrat? I suspect that is that and as I ignored Kerrat when it stop being the Dil fountain that keep on giving (back in 2013?) I am also ignoring this crap because if STO and Cryptic taught me anything is unless I get a paycheck at the end, I aint doing jack shit.

I suspect with the move to consoles they are trying to get PvP up so they can sell more power to PvPers, its not about the players... its about selliing shit.

Sounds like they will behave like normal weapons rather than abilities so I really doubt they'll have more than a few seconds cooldown.

Abilities dont work on Heavy Weapons apparently so its like having the fused tail turret of the Tempest that also wasnt affected by abilities, it seems only the ship console is going to do something for the Railgun.

In a way its funny as Cruisers got Auras because STO was nicknamed Escorts Online, now Escorts get a 8th weapon slot even if that is a likely shitty weapon like the Dyson Destroyers its still a extra weapon but its not affected by abilities meaning no rapid fire or anything so it sucks, nobody slots the Kinetic Beam despite being 360º weapon because its a turret that deals Kinetic damage and is not affected by FAW, BO or any beam abilities and thus sucks.

Also if they drain weapon power they end up doing more harm due to the chances, Cruisers can with auras mitigate weapon power drop but escorts dont have auras and the changes makes things worst.
 

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Just noticed the topic and wanted to say that you should all live long and Prosper too ;)

Eh, if only I had time to play this. Looks just like a shitty MMO I could sink in for hundreds of hours.
 

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In a way its funny as Cruisers got Auras because STO was nicknamed Escorts Online
The funny thing is, they buffed cruisers RIGHT after Escorts Online had ALREADY ENDED and given away to FAW Online, so it was wholly unnecessary...and now we're seeing the Escort Buff...just in time for the game to quite possibly return to being Escorts Online without it.

Eh, if only I had time to play this. Looks just like a shitty MMO I could sink in for hundreds of hours.
It's shitty and you want to stay away from it. If you don't heed this warning, I can help you avoid having to do anything fun while sinking your hundreds of hours. But seriously, stay the hell away from this trainwreck.
 

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so this wvwnttraitthingie is worth it or usual skipable trash? cant decide if i want it or not - sums my sto expierience pretty much :)
 

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Well ... no, its not worth it but you can AFK the damn thing, its a autosuccess even if you dont do anything. The plus side its easy 120 marks per run because Cryptic is dumb.
 

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It's not amazey, but it's also the easiest source of free marks around at the moment, since all you have to do is show up, and spend the next 10 minutes shitposting on Codex, which you were going to do anyway.
 

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Speaking of shitposting on the Codex, should one always have that whatsamacallit Mark ability ultimate from Tac skills and if so should one get the teamwide upgrade for it in addition to the 5 stacks of +8% durmag?
 

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Skilltree debate is currently totally up in the air. It does not really matter what you do at this point, as a skill reset will be handed out. If you do choose to go that route, then yes, it should be considered implicit to seek the teamwideness upgrade.
 

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I was mostly pondering this since I haven't respecced skills at all since the skill revamp, and my Agent of Yesterderp is getting up to the real game.
 
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why all the hassle? be a larper like me and you'll never care anymore to reskill, you'll just assing skill points according to the flavour you have in mind.
sorry norfleet if i dared to have some fun.
 

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I *am* being a total larping canonfag (no phasers = not Starfleet, and such), I just prefer being sort of effective while at it to avoid brain aneurysm.
 

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Considering Cryptic changes their mind as (more) often they change their underwear about every month something suddenly stops being WAI and its "fixed", then we get a so called revamp that is just someone that decides many things are wrong so changes enough to invalidate what people were trying to do without actually fixing anything, so the game "balance" is still fucked, there are still non-options and everything is at best different and often worst, queue for the next power creep cycle followed by a nerf 1-2 years down the line when some overexcited QA "developer" gets "promoted" and starts to attempt to "balance" the game.

Were was I going with this before I got pissed and started ranting?

Oh right, I think attempting to even come up with somewhat basic build is a impossible task because they keep changing how powers work in such a way that what worked suddenly doesnt anymore and that is a hell of a cold shower to attempting to come up with something modestly functional.

I have a hard time even wanting to login since everything just changes and of course there are no fucking guides or anything, I would say its a shitty community but they arent different from the usual sociopaths of a aging MMO, any knowledge is tribal and you have to in the cliche or have to figure it out in your own.
 

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I have a hard time even wanting to login since everything just changes and of course there are no fucking guides or anything, I would say its a shitty community but they arent different from the usual sociopaths of a aging MMO, any knowledge is tribal and you have to in the cliche or have to figure it out in your own.
Drakron, you realize that complaining about knowledge being "tribal" is a silly complaint for YOU to have, given that you average about 1.5 degrees away from the top information in the game, which makes you practically an insider, and that the only reason you don't seem to know anything is because despite my impressive shouting, I STILL CAN'T QUITE SHOUT OVER THE NOISE OF YOUR OBNOXIOUS WHINING?
 

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ahhh how i miss drakron from neverwinter days ..... he was so full of wonder and a promising adventurer :)

I always hated Neverwinter on the grounds of being 4th edition ... of course being Craptic "4th edition" made me hate it even more.
 

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