Obsidian General Discussion Thread

[AW8]

Thankfully someone made a mod to enjoy the bugfixes and other benefits of the restored content mod without the most retarded stuff: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/296-unofficial-tslrcm-tweak-pack/

That's pretty swell but it doesn't go near far enough.

What else did TSLRCM needlessly restore/change, in your opinion?

 

[Roguey]

What else did TSLRCM needlessly restore/change, in your opinion?

HK-47 quest where you have to destroy a million bots by yourself.

 

[Atlantico]

What else did TSLRCM needlessly restore/change, in your opinion?

HK-47 quest where you have to destroy a million bots by yourself.

Yeah.. That was a pretty terrible quest. Lots of the cut content was cut because it wasn't ready and wasn't presentable.

There is no real way of "restoring" this game properly, it's either going to be fan-fiction or revisionism.

 

[AW8]

What else did TSLRCM needlessly restore/change, in your opinion?

HK-47 quest where you have to destroy a million bots by yourself.

That quest fills in blanks in the narrative though, and I believe it's skippable with meta-knowledge (by never talking to HK-47 about the HK-50 units). It makes the game feel more whole, even if the gameplay side is lacking in quality.

 

[Roguey]

There is no real way of "restoring" this game properly, it's either going to be fan-fiction or revisionism.

One would have to get Avellone involved in an official capacity and hope for the best.

 

[luj1]

I honestly would feel completely and utterly sad for Obsidian if they were forced to do a game in the completely utterly fucking shit Fallout series/engine Bethesda created.

they already did

anything on that platform is trash

 

[luj1]

Do we know what Sawyer will work on next?

croissant baking RPG set in 16th century France

it will be a 2D game coded in java

 

[Delterius]

Do we know what Sawyer will work on next?

croissant baking RPG set in 16th century France

it will be a 2D game coded in java

it involves time travel because croissants were invented in 1800s austria and sawyer is trying to deleverage from his previous german supremacy by siding with the french

 

[9ted6]

Do we know what Sawyer will work on next?

croissant baking RPG set in 16th century France

it will be a 2D game coded in java

Where you play a black nun in a loving gay marriage that was approved of by all the local priests, who are also black or women, except one conspicuous old white priest who announces he's evil in every convo, and in a shock twist he's the villain. At least it'll have a good selection of period firearms, the only thing Sawyer would never let be historically inaccurate.

 

[Roguey]

Fired artist is seething at glass door

Leadership is a problem

Former Employee, more than 1 year

Pros

Your pod mates will likely be fun and friendly. A place to get a start and a title on your resume.

Cons

There is an inner circle among leadership and you're not in it. You'll likely be laid off after a project. Pay is below average for employees unless they're friends with leadership or a white male. If you point out problems you're likely to get shunned from higher-ups.

You're gettin' called out, Sawyer!

 

[Bulo]

I can't believe Feargus Urquhart would do this

Edit: I can't believe Chris Avellone would do this

 

[Major_Blackhart]

Fired artist is seething at glass door

Leadership is a problem

Former Employee, more than 1 year

Pros

Your pod mates will likely be fun and friendly. A place to get a start and a title on your resume.

Cons

There is an inner circle among leadership and you're not in it. You'll likely be laid off after a project. Pay is below average for employees unless they're friends with leadership or a white male. If you point out problems you're likely to get shunned from higher-ups.

You're gettin' called out, Sawyer!

That's pretty much par the course for knowledge at this point isn't it? I mean, the leadership is essentially up its own ass for the most part and notorious for playing favorites.

 

[Ismaul]

JES is still there only because he learned to become the favorite, the good boi, the company man.

 

[Russia is over. The end.]

Fired artist is seething at glass door

Leadership is a problem

Former Employee, more than 1 year

Pros

Your pod mates will likely be fun and friendly. A place to get a start and a title on your resume.

Cons

There is an inner circle among leadership and you're not in it. You'll likely be laid off after a project. Pay is below average for employees unless they're friends with leadership or a white male. If you point out problems you're likely to get shunned from higher-ups.

You're gettin' called out, Sawyer!

Hire nu-californians who see racism everywhere.
Hired nu-californians: you're racists!

How could this happen??

 

[Butter]

Is Sawyer making 6 million a year because he's a white male? This is all starting to make a lot of sense.

 

[Don Peste]

 

[Zed]

Fired artist is seething at glass door

Leadership is a problem

Former Employee, more than 1 year

Pros

Your pod mates will likely be fun and friendly. A place to get a start and a title on your resume.

Cons

There is an inner circle among leadership and you're not in it. You'll likely be laid off after a project. Pay is below average for employees unless they're friends with leadership or a white male. If you point out problems you're likely to get shunned from higher-ups.

You're gettin' called out, Sawyer!

Probably didn't bring a cheese to the company cheese testing AW

 

[Don Peste]

Infinitron Is https://catbox.moe/ blocked in your geographical location? Is there a better hosting site?

PS: You can now switch from

to

 

[Bulo]

Is Sawyer making 6 million a year because he's a white male? This is all starting to make a lot of sense.

Six million? That figure seems a little high to me

 

[NecroLord]

6 million a year

 

[Infinitron]

https://www.thegamer.com/star-wars-...t-aspyr-saber-cancelled-restored-content-dlc/

Star Wars Fans Launch Class Action Lawsuit Over Cancelled KOTOR 2 DLC​

Aspyr and Saber Interactive face a class action lawsuit after the restored content mod for KOTOR 2 on Switch was cancelled.

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2 - The Sith Lords was ported to Switch last year, breathing new life into the often-overlooked sequel. Better yet, the announcement trailer stated that the Restored Content Mod would be available as DLC, which as many fans will tell you, is the best way to experience the classic RPG. However, amid trouble behind the scenes, the DLC was later cancelled, leaving KOTOR 2 just as unfinished as it is on other platforms.

Now, fans are mobilising, launching a class action lawsuit against developer Aspyr Media and publisher Saber Interactive. The suit is said to involve multiple fans who purchased KOTOR 2 on Switch, arguing that they would not have done so if not for the promised DLC. The suit argues that Aspyr and Saber are legally obligated to provide refunds, as some buyers say they never even played the game because they were waiting for the restored content.

The case, Malachi Mickelonis v. Aspyr Media, Inc. et al, can be viewed online, showing that it was filed in July of this year. The fans and their lawyer, Ray Kim, demand a jury trial, and the defendants have until October 4 to respond.

"In 2022, Defendants [Aspyr and Saber] advertised KOTOR to users of the video console Nintendo Switch as having never-before released 'Restored Content DLC,'" reads the lawsuit. "Plaintiff and numerous other consumers were excited about the new content that Defendants claimed was 'coming soon.' In fact, KOTOR sat at the top of Nintendo’s e-Shop rankings."

But of course, the DLC was later cancelled on June 2, a few days after we reported that all references to the restored content had been quietly removed from the announcement trailer.

"Plaintiff felt completely duped," the lawsuit continues. "In fact, Plaintiff did not even play KOTOR after purchasing it, instead choosing to wait until the Restored Content DLC was released."

This isn't too hard to believe. The general consensus in the fanbase is that you should only play with the restored content mod installed, even if it's your first playthrough. Far from being material that the original developer, Obsidian, felt didn't fit the game, much of it was only removed due to time constraints.

Still, there are a few things getting in the way of the plaintiffs being successful here. For starters, games and in-game content are often cancelled - an unfortunate reality of the industry. Furthermore, even if refunds weren't granted, Aspyr did offer affected fans a copy of KOTOR 2 on Steam - where the mod can be played for free - or another Star Wars game altogether. It remains to be seen if these fans can argue that this didn't go far enough, and that an exception to the usual refund procedures should have been granted.

https://www.axios.com/2023/11/16/star-wars-aspyr-kotor-2-lawsuit

Star Wars developer strikes back at class-action claim​

A class action complaint over a Star Wars video game's missing content should be dismissed in part because the lead plaintiff already got a rebate, the game's developer has argued in court.

Why it matters: The novel suit is seeking damages because a game maker didn't deliver on the promise they offered when promoting their game.

Details: The case, Malachi Mickelonis v. Aspyr Media, Inc., revolves around the cancellation of the "Restored Content DLC," a free update that had been planned for the 2022 Nintendo Switch re-release of beloved 2004 role-playing game Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II.

• The update would have restored storyline content that was infamously cut before the original game shipped. Those missing bits have so far been available only on the PC version via a mod made by fans who salvaged the content from the game's code.
• Aspyr announced in June it was canceling the DLC, and offered download codes for other Star Wars games to compensate.
• In July Mickelonis sued, saying he "felt completely duped" and sought damages over alleged violations of California consumer law. Late last month, the suit was modified to include 17 more plaintiffs.

Driving the news: Aspyr Media asked a court last month and this month to toss out the suit, according to court filings reviewed by Axios.

• Aspyr's position is that they already provided relief to the plaintiffs when KOTOR II Switch owners were offered an extra game. "All were offered a replacement product worth more than the one they purchased and none requested a refund," the publisher's lawyers say in a filing this month.
• In their filings, Aspyr shows that Mickelonis requested and received a code for another game to compensate for the nixed DLC.

The intrigue: Aspyr has never said why the DLC was canceled. But in a court filing, the company's co-CEO Ted Saloch said, "Aspyr believed it would be able to release the content, but a third party objected and Aspyr was unable to do so."

• It's unclear who that third party was.

What's next: A hearing on Aspyr's motion to dismiss the case is set for the end of the month.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

100% Aspyr saw the quality of the so-called "restored content" and decided that nothing of value would be lost.

 

[RepHope]

Dollarhyde is back.

It has never been more over.

 

[Cyberarmy]

WTF is a Dollar Hyde? Where is Dollar Jekyll then??

 

[Quillon]

Dollarhyde is back.

ffs



well it wasn't like we had any hope for obsidian anyway, fuck it