Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord

[Zanzoken]

This meme brought to you after 10 years of development

 

[PulsatingBrain]

There is map of calradia doggo races.

Source? I don't remember spotting dogs in the game yet. I'd love to recruit one of those Greyhound looking doggos on the centre-right. Even if I can only leave him in a settlement of whatever

 

[Zariusz]

There is map of calradia doggo races.

Source? I don't remember spotting dogs in the game yet. I'd love to recruit one of those Greyhound looking doggos on the centre-right. Even if I can only leave him in a settlement of whatever

There was leak of Bannerlord concept arts.
https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?threads/leaked-conceptual-art.381911/

 

[Ruchy]

Voice commands changed the game for me, much much more usable system for directing your troops.
Has anyone tried the full paid version? wondering if it's worth it.

 

[Smoker]

This meme brought to you after 10 years of development

They've made like 20 million in revenue already can't they just hire someone from ck2 to finish these systems

 

[Sarissofoi]

Just come here to say that Bannerlord(more like boringlord or placeholder lord) is fucking disappointment.
Maybe they will fix it in the Bannerlord:Nerfband standalone expansion in next 8 years but I doubt it.
I mean lets ignore all that missing parts and look at what its here:
>fucking Paradox MANA(aka influence)
the worst paradox mechanic(outside of selling overpriced DLC and shitty Clausewitz engine)
>relationships are clan based(instead of personal one)
>cavalry nerfed to the ground
>infantry being shit
>spears being shit
>archers OP(combined with no shield for most troops, shitty armor and archers Aimbot skills)
>no passive experience training(and that with shitty auto calc mean manually fighting every band of looters just to level your tier one recruits)
>silly item pricing
>shitty(i like the idea to be honest) leveling system(but its done in fucking terrible way)
>shitty unit collision making foot troops blob all over and making numbers>quality in melee
I know that its EA and all(why EA sabotaged this game tho?) but still.
It looked more fun in demo version they presented some times ago. Even with silly skyrim like shoulders.

Spoiler

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

[Peachcurl]

To address one detail: The problem with cavalry is not really a nerf. It's that the cavalry AI doesn't deal well with large groups. Small-scale cavalry seems to work well enough.

 

[vota DC]

Siege is still a brutal affair I see. I'm not sure due to bug or whatever. No way to make sense of it.
I was with 1300 attackers storming a 400-strong city and I realized something was wrong when I stormed the wall, killed 23 when the rest of the army had scored less than 5 in total while we sustained 400+ losses.
I got overwhelmed, fell on the wall.
Eventually, auto-resolve had us winning with 1000 losses.
I think if I left it at manual, we would've lost way more.

Best way to avoid AI derp during sieges is to break at least one wall completely.

The problem Is that you start under range of archers. I guess they did because otherwise you would order your troops to stay behind and after you snipe the few archers around the gate you chop main gate....It requires times but you can do without ram.

 

[AgentFransis]

>fucking Paradox MANA(aka influence)
the worst paradox mechanic(outside of selling overpriced DLC and shitty Clausewitz engine)

No. It's a reasonable abstraction that largely makes sense excepting some quirks. It represents your inherent influence as a lord of the realm combined with the respect of your fellow nobles for doing actions that benefit the realm. It's only used to influence kingdom decisions, like it says on the tin. Unlike Paradox mana which represents fuck all besides a counter and used on a myriad of unrelated things.

>relationships are clan based(instead of personal one)

So?

>cavalry nerfed to the ground
>infantry being shit
>spears being shit

No.

>archers OP(combined with no shield for most troops, shitty armor and archers Aimbot skills)
>no passive experience training(and that with shitty auto calc mean manually fighting every band of looters just to level your tier one recruits)
>shitty(i like the idea to be honest) leveling system(but its done in fucking terrible way)

Mods fix it™

 

[RK47]

By the time you got to the 'I need influence' stage, you can probably just earn it quickly by donating troop/prisoners to the allied garrison.
It's not that hard. And the influence cost to gather a massive army isn't that big TBH. Remember: you can have your companion lead the party as well and invite them to your army for free. So try to hit Clan Lv 3 and setup those extra parties.

 

[Peachcurl]

The problem is more like a lack of influence sinks. It's easier to gain influence, than spending it.

 

[Zanzoken]

Remember: you can have your companion lead the party as well and invite them to your army for free. So try to hit Clan Lv 3 and setup those extra parties.

The longest playthrough I had was as a vassal of Southern Empire, and by the end I could deploy an army of around 500 troops just using parties from my clan. 200 troops in my main party + 3 companion parties of 100 troops each, all for zero influence cost. I think this was as a tier 5 clan.

I don't recommend rolling like this all the time, though. It's slow-moving and eats up a lot of food. I also don't recommend allowing your companions to lead parties outside of your direct control. They will inevitably blunder into some idiotic situation and get their party destroyed, which is not acceptable considering I had to train their troops myself and the time investment that requires.

The key is, once you own a fief you can form and disband your clan army at will. Under normal circumstances, keep your companions in your party (or leave them at your fief) and store their troops in the garrison. When you're ready to roll out in force, just pull troops from the garrison, spin up your companion parties, then form your army. Once you're done, return to your fief, disband the army, then disband each party. Your companions should immediately enter the fief, deposit their troops in the garrison, and go to the lord's hall to wait for retrieval.

Make sure you save before disbanding parties, because I've had issues with companions disappearing.

 

[Catacombs]

They will inevitably blunder into some idiotic situation and get their party destroyed, which is not acceptable considering I had to train their troops myself and the time investment that requires.

Almost all my current companions are running caravans for me while I figure out getting my own fief. In the meantime, I'll let the money flow in.

 

[AgentFransis]

I usually just let my companions roam around, recruit by themselves and do their own thing. When I need an army I just call whatever lords are available and closest. Once you get a few fiefs and the kingdom decisions that give influence per castle and per notable you have enough passive influence income to never worry about it again, never mind income from battles. They should definitely nerf/remove them since they break the system.

Micromanaging the parties like you is too much busywork for my taste. And to assemble this army you have to go to your fief/s wherever they may be and then go back to wherever you need it, by which point it may be too late. By summoning your parties/random lords to you you can stay active in the field near the target until they arrive. Usually when I go to capture a target I first range around by myself and hunt down enemy lords in the area. When I feel the coast is clear I raise an army, siege, disband it and move on.

 

[ArchAngel]

I usually just let my companions roam around, recruit by themselves and do their own thing. When I need an army I just call whatever lords are available and closest. Once you get a few fiefs and the kingdom decisions that give influence per castle and per notable you have enough passive influence income to never worry about it again, never mind income from battles. They should definitely nerf/remove them since they break the system.

Micromanaging the parties like you is too much busywork for my taste. And to assemble this army you have to go to your fief/s wherever they may be and then go back to wherever you need it, by which point it may be too late. By summoning your parties/random lords to you you can stay active in the field near the target until they arrive. Usually when I go to capture a target I first range around by myself and hunt down enemy lords in the area. When I feel the coast is clear I raise an army, siege, disband it and move on.

You should always have one of your companion armies with you, it costs no influence and it raises your Leadership skill just by leading an army all the time.

 

[AgentFransis]

I did it at first but now it's high enough. I don't want another party slowing me down all the time. I'm happy with my ~250 sized party - it's deadly enough to smash any single lord and most small armies but still fast enough to catch them, having a large portion of cavalry and spare horses for everyone.

 

[RK47]

The problem is more like a lack of influence sinks. It's easier to gain influence, than spending it.

You can always burn influence to troll your kingdom's city owners with revoting of ownership rights.

 

[Fedora Master]

You can get old work horses for exactly 1 denar from villagers that are returning from a city. You can then slaughter the horses into tons of meat that goes for 20+ denars.

 

[Fedora Master]

 

[Peachcurl]

I guess those guys desperately wanted to loot some beer.

 

[Zariusz]

So there is already mod launcher for Bannerlord
https://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/265
and nude mod
https://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/1129
Is this first mod that adds actuall new items into game?
https://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/1104

If Bannerlord is ever going to have Dickplomacy like mod then it should be called Mount my Blade 2: Bootylord edition.

 

[RK47]

I'm earning a lot more coin now from the 3 party army setup.
Turns out with 3 clan parties combined, we get more prisoners ransomed and loot sold as well.
It's way better than running caravans to be sure.

I just dump all the max EXP troops to the garrison to save on cost until I need them and keep going after those forest bandits/sea raiders when I need more men. With a little luck, they surrender and join without a fight.
I almost stopped trading altogether now, it's more efficient to battle for profit now at mid to late game. And the longer you leave enemy nobles alone, the better their army gets. So it's best to crush them frequently.

The most memorable fight was probably jumping into a Battanian Army of 200 vs Empire's 600.
I got a 200-strong army and we ended up with a net increase in army strength from the rescued Battanian prisoners. Had to let a lot of prisoners and recruits go afterward.

 

[Fedora Master]

In autoresolve, troops fight individually. Each round a random troop is selected on one side to strike another randomly selected on the other side, compare the striker's power (an internal value) to the striked's to decide the survival chance, roll dice to decide whether the striked dies or not.

 

[Peachcurl]

:D :D :D

Ok, if that is the case, the autoresolve results start to make sense now.

 

[RK47]

Yeah, that's how I play my manual battles. I split my 100 man group into individual groups of 1 and set them against the enemy's choice. One at a time.
With higher tactics, my results improve.



Anyway, my current run proves conclusively that setting up a multi-party army beats having individual caravans running around the map.