Might and Magic Might & Magic X Pre-Release Thread

[SuicideBunny]

That's art style, not graphics, but yeah, V was a fugly game.

yeah, i was talking designs and how heroes designs suck compared to mm3-5.

Art style-wise, I've never like Might & Magic much to be honest, except for interface/character portraits/avatars/items in VI-VIII, which I quite liked.

i guess the cartoonish campy 80s fantasy/sf mix of 3-5 is an acquired taste...

just noticed something fucking stupid.. in the first lighthouse floor, you cannot shoot or cast at the coral priestess standing two tiles from you, despite there only being a hole between the five of you...

 

[Crispy]

Finally just signed up for early access on this.

I'm jonesing for this game. I really don't care if it's not as good as I hope it's going to be. All the signs are there for an enjoyable blobber. And thirty bucks isn't that bad.

Now I just have to wait for the download to complete to get a taste.

 

[Storyfag]

Seriously? I think the graphics are pretty neat. Heroes VI, unlike IV and V, wasn't an ugly game.

Your taste is shit. Compare spearmen and archers in VI and V.

 

[Grunker]

Seriously? I think the graphics are pretty neat. Heroes VI, unlike IV and V, wasn't an ugly game.

Your taste is shit. Compare spearmen and archers in VI and V.

VI spearmen: kewl, V spearman: fugly

 

[Abelian]

I thought the graphics in Heroes IV were good. My complaints against it are that it reduced units to 4 tiers (after previous games had 5, 6, 7 tiers respectively); ranged units retaliated to a ranged attacker; the fact that your hero was a battlefield unit; being able to move creatures on the map without a hero leading them.

 

[sser]

The graphics in HoMM6 were pretty good, IMO. A lot better than the fifth game.

That said, they were used an overhead strategy game, not a first-person dungeon crawler. The graphics in M&MX look like shit and the game runs like shit (for me), too. Still, I'm looking forward to it anyway because the gameplay has been really solid thus far.

 

[SuicideBunny]

The graphics in M&MX look like shit and the game runs like shit (for me), too

yeah, it definitely is very badly optimized, if at all.

 

[Crispy]

Game runs smooth as silk for me. There are occasions when a jittering can be seen, but that's always gone away as soon as I freelook anywhere.

I'm running every graphics option maxed, btw.

 

[Infinitron]

Unity: kills shitty computers dead.

(Shitty defined as any computer that doesn't run Unity games well )

 

[Storyfag]

Seriously? I think the graphics are pretty neat. Heroes VI, unlike IV and V, wasn't an ugly game.

Your taste is shit. Compare spearmen and archers in VI and V.

VI spearmen: kewl, V spearman: fugly

Updated grunker.txt: "likes pointless bling"

 

[Kem0sabe]

It does run like crap on my computer as well, would be disappointing if they didnt optimize this for launch.

 

[Morgoth]

Unity3D is the main culprit here. It just isn't up to snuff for these kind of games (yet).

 

[narupley]

Runs like shit for me too, relatively speaking. My PC can run Skyrim at max settings with absolutely no problems, but this game at max settings is unplayable (and the "max settings" bar for this game is far below most other modern games). At medium settings it's playable but frustrating for long periods. It looks like some people's computers run this game fine for some reason, but that appears to be the exception rather than the rule. I can only hope they somehow "optimize" it for the final release. I'm less than convinced that will happen satisfactorily though, given the other decisions they've made.

For example, instead of giving us an option to turn off those damn monster animations (which occur for all active monsters in the vicinity, even if you aren't looking at them), they give us an option to speed the animations up to 3x. Look, azn 3D modelers/artists, I love you, and I know you've been doing a great job, but after the first hour or so I don't want to see that shit anymore given how annoying it is in actual gameplay. Blame the development studio for taking a dump on your hard work.

I find it funny that the slowest speed for monster animation (100%) is still the default, and that 100%/200%/300% is labeled "Normal" / "Fast" / "Fastest". Really the fastest speed they showed should be the default at 100%, and then 100%/66%/33% should be "Normal" / "Slow" / "What the fuck were you thinking Limbic".

Also, from the most recent teaser it looks like they've marginally improved the movement by reducing the "stutter" in between steps. However the overall speed of movement remains almost the same. That is, it's still going to take around 5 minutes or so for a round trip to/from town depending on where you are. I'm guessing this is just because Limbic ran into a wall of limitation with Unity.

 

[Nyast]

I bought the game. I want to support those kind of games. Even if the game turns out to be just average, it's "only" $30 and the genre is dead, so I don't mind paying just to send a message to devs that there's a market ( even if niche ) out there.

I'm not going to comment on the technical aspects, or the horrible balancing ( day/night cycles, broken weapons, movement speed, whatever ), those are mostly settings that can be adjusted and will be fixed for release ( or soon after ).

However, I can't say I have enjoyed Act I all that much so far. I would have expected the beginning of this game to be as good / attractive as possible. Instead, I'm presented with endless grinding ( a trait of the serie, so okay but.. ), lack of puzzles, poor encounters, poor pacing ( having to go back to town every 5 minutes ) and poor humor. I litteraly /facepalmed when one of the first NPC said that he wouldn't send me off fighting rats, only to discover a well of spiders minutes later. Really ? Whoever thought that'd be funny should be fired..

Despite this, I'm still interested in this game. I hope the pacing will be better, and Act 2 and later will be full of puzzles and more interesting encounters. If all the other Acts are like Act I, then it will be a terrible, terrible game for me..

 

[Broseph]

The pacing is only poor if you suck at the game.

 

[Grunker]

The pacing is only poor if you suck at the game.

p. much

It's a basic staple of M&M gameplay that the penalty for suckage is more backtracking, at least for VI+. Whether that's a good or bad mechanic I guess is up to yourself, but I respect them for not backpedaling on that design. The upside to it is that there are tangible effects to game mastery improvement, character progression and journey preparation.

 

[groke]

https://mightandmagicx-legacy.ubi.com/opendev/blog/post/view/devs-talk-about-deluxe-box-release-date

That map looks really fucking good. Why couldn't they have done something like that for the in-game map?

 

[Bubbles]

Need to save something for DLC.

 

[Grunker]

Need to save something for DLC.

Dude. Arcomage.

 

[Abelian]

Need to save something for DLC.

Dude. Arcomage.

To be followed by the paper doll DLC...

 

[Grunker]

Need to save something for DLC.

Dude. Arcomage.

To be followed by the paper doll DLC...

Arcomage is actual content.

 

[SuicideBunny]

Need to save something for DLC.

Dude. Arcomage.

To be followed by the paper doll DLC...

Arcomage is actual content.

paperdolls are important for immershun and stuff, fool.

 

[Abelian]

Arcomage is actual content.

As if that has ever stopped a DLC being released (I'm looking at you, Crusader Kings II Dynasty Shields I, II and III).

 

[Grunker]

Need to save something for DLC.

Dude. Arcomage.

To be followed by the paper doll DLC...

Arcomage is actual content.

paperdolls are important for immershun and stuff, fool.

Hey, I would have liked paperdolls (even if their fan-crowd on the Limbic threads are retards). If it's an incidental "the artists had to do something"-part of the DLC, I'm all for it

(it won't happen - converting every item to a new format and updating UI would be insane from a production standpoint)

 

[Abelian]

Hey, I would have liked paperdolls (even if their fan-crowd on the Limbic threads are retards). If it's an incidental "the artists had to do something"-part of the DLC, I'm all for it

(it won't happen - converting every item to a new format and updating UI would be insane from a production standpoint)

Unless the work is already done and ready for a Day 1 DLC .