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Magic the Gathering Arena
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ind33d
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i'm waiting for Universes Beyond: ScientologyMTG hitting a new low, whoring itself even harder than Mortal Kombat does.
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Savant
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The shadow in that imageMTG hitting a new low, whoring itself even harder than Mortal Kombat does.
Thank god it's not marketing material.
MadMaxHellfire
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it's the mtg symbol, which is right there to the left of the title.
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Anybody play the weekly event draft where all cards have no mana cost? Good shit. First game - opponent goes first. Spends 5 minutes masturbating drawing half their deck. By the end of it he chunked half my life, discarded my whole hand and had lethal onboard. 10/10 felt like playing against a vintage combo.
Next game I go first. Draw half my deck. Unload some big fuckers. Buff and haste them for the kill.
Turns out cards have mana costs for good reason. Who'd have thought.
Anyway, what are you guys playing now? I'm mainly running Dimir midrange, budget UW artifact aggro and some blue tempo with haughty djinn. No cards for anything else really.
Next game I go first. Draw half my deck. Unload some big fuckers. Buff and haste them for the kill.
Turns out cards have mana costs for good reason. Who'd have thought.
Anyway, what are you guys playing now? I'm mainly running Dimir midrange, budget UW artifact aggro and some blue tempo with haughty djinn. No cards for anything else really.
The Limper
Educated
UW Soldiers, UBR Midrange Anje Vamps and as always Mono Black Lili/Sheoldred.
MadMaxHellfire
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what's the point in putting together a strong deck if the game decides for you beforehand if you're going to win or lose?
spectre
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Fuck, I've relapsed...
Fingers crossed that I won't be staying long this time round. I mean, WOTC really seems to be out of their way to make playing Standard a bother.
No rotation? It's basically use a 3 mana sweeper or go home format. Plenty of decks that would have been viable in a healthy environment simply won't be able to keep up.
Just played for the three wins to get the goods. It's basically: pick as much card draw as gets thrown your way AND/OR hope to combo out with haste (the bots offered two picks of Rhythm of the Wild, so yeah).
Sadly, it's simply not equipped at all to deal with the fucking turn three WR convoke blowout, and on the other, everyone these days runs a fucking cavern of souls these days
AND everyone worth their salt will have some sort of anti-graveyard tech for all the combo nonsense running around.
On the draw, you're basically dead on arrival. Running Ephara's Dispersal (alongside the full playset of Fading Hopes) feels like a must, just to dig out a serpent in a reasonable time,
but it's such a shit card vs. non-aggro. Can't be bothered to spend rare wc on Consooming Tides to see if they make any marked difference. Doesn't cost three, so prolly doesn't.
There is also a ninja-themed variant with no rares, but I can't say it does any better.
If you're looking for budget stuff, a RG Picnic Ruiner combo only uses rare lands (RG, so it isn't ideal, cause the UGR meta combo deck in which could otherwise salvage them only goes basics for the fetching)
and lets you pull off a turn three kill and is pretty consistent with turn 4 kills.
Unfortunately, has no interaction and is not suitable for Bo3, but on a good day, it should give you a good time.
I've pieced together a decent-ish WB control with some token generation, Beseech the Mirror for consistency as well as a bunch of silver bullets. Been pretty fun so far, but it's basically a slap 4x Lockdown for a good time kind of arrangement. Nuts how shit like Wedding Announcement and Resplendid Catherer is has become too slow for this standard, but at least letting them go made me warm up to Kutzil's Flanker. I was skeptical at first, but the draft gods have tossed a full set at me and they've been doing Lord's work.
Fingers crossed that I won't be staying long this time round. I mean, WOTC really seems to be out of their way to make playing Standard a bother.
No rotation? It's basically use a 3 mana sweeper or go home format. Plenty of decks that would have been viable in a healthy environment simply won't be able to keep up.
I've seen a guy who obviously hasn't read the event description and drafted a "normal" WG deck with lands. Poor sod.
Just played for the three wins to get the goods. It's basically: pick as much card draw as gets thrown your way AND/OR hope to combo out with haste (the bots offered two picks of Rhythm of the Wild, so yeah).
I've been playing djinn tempo since it came out. I enjoy having a deck like this around whenever too much combo nonsense happens (which is kinda right now)
Sadly, it's simply not equipped at all to deal with the fucking turn three WR convoke blowout, and on the other, everyone these days runs a fucking cavern of souls these days
AND everyone worth their salt will have some sort of anti-graveyard tech for all the combo nonsense running around.
On the draw, you're basically dead on arrival. Running Ephara's Dispersal (alongside the full playset of Fading Hopes) feels like a must, just to dig out a serpent in a reasonable time,
but it's such a shit card vs. non-aggro. Can't be bothered to spend rare wc on Consooming Tides to see if they make any marked difference. Doesn't cost three, so prolly doesn't.
There is also a ninja-themed variant with no rares, but I can't say it does any better.
If you're looking for budget stuff, a RG Picnic Ruiner combo only uses rare lands (RG, so it isn't ideal, cause the UGR meta combo deck in which could otherwise salvage them only goes basics for the fetching)
and lets you pull off a turn three kill and is pretty consistent with turn 4 kills.
Unfortunately, has no interaction and is not suitable for Bo3, but on a good day, it should give you a good time.
I've pieced together a decent-ish WB control with some token generation, Beseech the Mirror for consistency as well as a bunch of silver bullets. Been pretty fun so far, but it's basically a slap 4x Lockdown for a good time kind of arrangement. Nuts how shit like Wedding Announcement and Resplendid Catherer is has become too slow for this standard, but at least letting them go made me warm up to Kutzil's Flanker. I was skeptical at first, but the draft gods have tossed a full set at me and they've been doing Lord's work.
spectre
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Perhaps it does, perhaps it doesn't. TBH, I don't really care if they pick peeps for me to crush, and you will start seeing familiar faces at upper Diamond every now and then.
So long as they're not salty crybabies who will rope me cause my deck choice tickles their chakras weird.
Gotten a random Zergo and Yugohai (or whatever the fuck it's called... two characters in one card, what is this? Fucking pokemans?)
Crappy flavor aside, it's a control vs. control package that I've been looking for for quite a while, an obvious sign from the rng that I need to throw together a WUR.
Which I did. Had to make some concessions because I missed on a bunch of rare-lands and I didn't exactly have a full set of planeswankers to go with it...
and I also only have one Memory Deluge. But at least I have the helixes and Silver Scrutiny is only a bit worse. Still, managed to slap a guy real good with it.
So long as they're not salty crybabies who will rope me cause my deck choice tickles their chakras weird.
Gotten a random Zergo and Yugohai (or whatever the fuck it's called... two characters in one card, what is this? Fucking pokemans?)
Crappy flavor aside, it's a control vs. control package that I've been looking for for quite a while, an obvious sign from the rng that I need to throw together a WUR.
Which I did. Had to make some concessions because I missed on a bunch of rare-lands and I didn't exactly have a full set of planeswankers to go with it...
and I also only have one Memory Deluge. But at least I have the helixes and Silver Scrutiny is only a bit worse. Still, managed to slap a guy real good with it.
MadMaxHellfire
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i'm a mtg veteran, i played thousands of games and hundreds on this, i had a pro tour winner ragequit after being bitchslapper for an hour straight, trust me i'm no scrub. this game cheats on every level. fixing matchups is the least, the game also manipulates starting hands and draws, to the point of being predictable played card by played card. back in my day combo decks weren't really based on their combo, they were on their drawing engine. have a look at the suggested arena decks: barely any drawing at all, because experts know that if you're supposed to win the right cards will magically appear in your hand.
i pushed my rating up through the use of some top deck, had about 40% win rate. then switched to some purposely horrible deck with no synergy at all, i kept the same ratio, the same opposing usual decks suddenly started not drawing their combos, mana flood or screw every other game, the usual ways i previously lost my games. i once, once, just once, in a real match, drew 14 out of 17 lands in the first 15 turns. it happened once, it could happen. in arena it happens every day, multiple times. it's not ridiculous: it's retarded.
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spectre
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Yeah well, singleton is a hard pass for me.
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fair enough. Still you might not believe how often you expect opponent to have a specific card at hand even though people can build any deck and even if its there its 1/100.
Yet if your opponent was holding 1 blue mana for past 2 turns you know that there is a wash away. And there are many others like that.
For me its the opposite, with 4/60 situation and clear ladder meta, you know 90% of the opponent deck just by looking at lands. I mean in brawl I might know 90% of opponent deck earlier, by looking at commander but at least games do not feel samey. That and being concede happy. Cant stress enough how scooping is important to keep one sanity in flood of poqs or one of many value piles
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I'm fine playing competitive, that's what the ladder's for. This means the decklists are mostly known (although there are variations, a UW control with and without Flanker can feel completely different to play against)
and that's fine. It's like playing chess with an opponent who goes with a by-the-book opening. There are still meaningful decisions and mistakes to be made. That's what competitive means to me.
I'm also referring to Bo3, because if you play this game in Bo1, you're basically doing it to yourself.
Of course, unlike chess, MTG is a silly random game which sometimes decides one player doesn't get to play at all.
If you're making a blue control, in 4/6o, you toss in 4x Dissipates or whatever's the good pick these days. In singleton, you fuck around with 1 Dissipate, 1 Wash away, 1 Ertai's Scorn, etc.
While I get the concept, and I even do this oh so clever substitution shit from time to time when I'm short on wildcards, yet still want to try something.
In the end, it's making things more awkward than they need to be. If I want to see clever interactions between underutilized cards, I just go play limited.
And if you're referring to all the shuffler patterns... yeah, that stuff is legendary. Scry a card to the bottom of the library then immediately draw a duplicate?
When shit like this happens at least twice a week you stop being fazed by it.
and that's fine. It's like playing chess with an opponent who goes with a by-the-book opening. There are still meaningful decisions and mistakes to be made. That's what competitive means to me.
I'm also referring to Bo3, because if you play this game in Bo1, you're basically doing it to yourself.
Of course, unlike chess, MTG is a silly random game which sometimes decides one player doesn't get to play at all.
Well, I believe despite the apparent freedom, there's a limited number of cards that make sense, unless you're throwing together a random value pile.
If you're making a blue control, in 4/6o, you toss in 4x Dissipates or whatever's the good pick these days. In singleton, you fuck around with 1 Dissipate, 1 Wash away, 1 Ertai's Scorn, etc.
While I get the concept, and I even do this oh so clever substitution shit from time to time when I'm short on wildcards, yet still want to try something.
In the end, it's making things more awkward than they need to be. If I want to see clever interactions between underutilized cards, I just go play limited.
And if you're referring to all the shuffler patterns... yeah, that stuff is legendary. Scry a card to the bottom of the library then immediately draw a duplicate?
When shit like this happens at least twice a week you stop being fazed by it.
Dr1f7
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Ok so
i've been talking a lot of shit about mtg lately but i heard that there was a ravnica draft happening that had RNA cards in it so I NEEDED to come back for my favorite all time draft experience clear the mind omg so much fun i force drafted it like 5 times it (RNA was only one of the three draft packs so getting CTM wasn't guaranteed) was amazing
basically if you don't know it's you do nothing but remove all their shit for 40 turns and let them deck out
ok but then I was passed field of the dead, which I guess is in the new set or something, so I got this sick fotd deck that actually wasn't very good but was fun
i've been playing the new artifact remix draft like a crack addict now I'm down like 7500 gems after a string of 0/1-3s (format's fucking hard) but just went 7-0 with this sick dance of the manse deck
p1p1 dance of the manse is the coolest thing ever
there's a lot of interesting possibilities in this draft (opp is playing some investigate mill thing) but there's a lot of bomby low cmc cards that opponents can curve out into and fuck you in the first three turns. LOTS of t1/t2 rare drop into t3 planeswalker or similar bullshit from my opponents so it was nice to finally dish it out for a change.
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for timeless I've been playing with titan field cuz zombies
I tried making a lotus field combo deck for explorer, it kinda works but it's pretty inconsistent and even if you pop off with like t4 ultimatum it doesn't guarantee a win but it's fun
i've been talking a lot of shit about mtg lately but i heard that there was a ravnica draft happening that had RNA cards in it so I NEEDED to come back for my favorite all time draft experience clear the mind omg so much fun i force drafted it like 5 times it (RNA was only one of the three draft packs so getting CTM wasn't guaranteed) was amazing
basically if you don't know it's you do nothing but remove all their shit for 40 turns and let them deck out
ok but then I was passed field of the dead, which I guess is in the new set or something, so I got this sick fotd deck that actually wasn't very good but was fun
i've been playing the new artifact remix draft like a crack addict now I'm down like 7500 gems after a string of 0/1-3s (format's fucking hard) but just went 7-0 with this sick dance of the manse deck
p1p1 dance of the manse is the coolest thing ever
there's a lot of interesting possibilities in this draft (opp is playing some investigate mill thing) but there's a lot of bomby low cmc cards that opponents can curve out into and fuck you in the first three turns. LOTS of t1/t2 rare drop into t3 planeswalker or similar bullshit from my opponents so it was nice to finally dish it out for a change.
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for timeless I've been playing with titan field cuz zombies
I tried making a lotus field combo deck for explorer, it kinda works but it's pretty inconsistent and even if you pop off with like t4 ultimatum it doesn't guarantee a win but it's fun
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What's begdrafting?
Having fun experimenting with Grixis crime. Basically took the list that's out there but subbed out a buch of the rares since I ran out of rare wildcards. Gissa with some crime generators is pretty nuts.
Having fun experimenting with Grixis crime. Basically took the list that's out there but subbed out a buch of the rares since I ran out of rare wildcards. Gissa with some crime generators is pretty nuts.
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when you enter draft with single priority - grabbing all the rares that come your way. When stars align and you go overboard - result is barely being able to collect 40 card deck in 2 colors
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