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[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

btw i've been wondering why it's like 4 months post ikoria release and I still can't get the card style for my favorite card,

and now I just realize that art was made by noah bradley
of fucking course I guess I'll never get a card style for my favorite card because the artist was a raper or whatever
god damn't

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

Pretty solid bans all around. T3feri's a massive pain, wilderness rec's a pain, and cat is a nightmare to play and play against in digital as well as one of (If not the) biggest cockblock to non-trample aggro, so that's nice.

Edit: Well shit. Here's a tough Jumpstart pick in a good way. Angels, Lightning, or Rogues. Angels is kind of a 50/50 because Linvala and Serra's Guardian is sort of a dud while Baneslayer's probably solid. Lightning gets a slight bonus because I haven't got that land, but I'm a little leery on phoenix and/or serpent as far as historic burn decks go. And rogues has a guaranteed Thieves' Guild Enforcer which is a cool card and even dovetails with my beloved mill.

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Thac0]

Teferi, Time Raveler is banned.
Teferi, Time Raveler is suspended.
Teferi, Time Raveler is banned.

I'm about to nut.

 

[Thac0]

also not a single mentions about gobos in historic

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

how's this dimir deck look?

Deck
4 Thought Erasure (GRN) 206
8 Swamp (RTR) 260
3 Sinister Sabotage (GRN) 54
1 Negate (RIX) 44
3 Heartless Act (IKO) 91
3 Murderous Rider (ELD) 97
3 Thassa's Intervention (THB) 72
2 Erebos's Intervention (THB) 94
3 Ashiok, Nightmare Muse (THB) 208
2 Liliana, Dreadhorde General (WAR) 97
3 Cry of the Carnarium (RNA) 70
3 Atris, Oracle of Half-Truths (THB) 209
3 Shark Typhoon (IKO) 67
3 Brazen Borrower (ELD) 39
4 Watery Grave (GRN) 259
2 Castle Vantress (ELD) 242
2 Castle Locthwain (ELD) 241
8 Island (JMP) 50

Sideboard
1 Murderous Rider (ELD) 97
1 Cry of the Carnarium (RNA) 70
2 Duress (M20) 97
2 Negate (RIX) 44
3 Aether Gust (M20) 42
1 Ritual of Soot (GRN) 84
1 Eat to Extinction (THB) 90
2 Essence Scatter (IKO) 49
2 Noxious Grasp (M20) 110

wondering if I should just put aether gust in the mainboard because green just really ruins my day if they curve out.. Maybe cut erebos intervention (even tho it's pretty damn good gust may be better). idk guys haven't played dimir in forever this is my first attempt at building a deck

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[spectre]

how's this dimir deck look?

It looks a bit vanilla, I mean, not bad for a control shell, but nothing terribly exciting in there. Immediately makes me want to add red for Nico Bolo, maybe Kroxa shenanigans (e.g. the Lazav combo).
I'd say, before you do anything else, up the land count to 26. if you want to play control, gotta have the land count to pull it. Just add two Blast Zones and you're solid. It's great interaction for 1-2 color decks.
I'm also not terribly sure about sharknado as a win condition without any ramping to make it shine, I think you mostly might be using it to eke out some minor card advantage through cycling and killing a guy.

Good to see you going for Bo3, a few comments on the SB - you probably want an Extinction Event somewhere in there. Enter the God Eternals is rotating soon, but it was a good card for stabilizing vs. aggro.
I would expect mono red, white, green and black aggros to be popular, so maybe you want some more catch all answers rather than grasps and gusts. I'm finding that an even split of Eliminates and Heartless Acts
does the trick.
With Magic Negro gone, I would expect people flock back to flash counter-fucking-everything strategies. Blast Zone will give you some edge, but you may also want 3-4x Mystical Disputes in the SB.

The biggest problem I've always had with these colors was closing the game decisively. Sure, leave the sharknado, big lilly or ashiok on board for a few turns and you're done.
If you want to play a more discard-focused game for a change, Vantress Gargoyles and Drown in the Loch are the cards to look into. I would replace Sabotages with Didn't Say Please to have them go online faster.
See a few pages back for our UB flash collaborative effort. Tbh, it was the most success I've had in this color combination, though that's a midrange/tempo thing and it was before the major bans.

 

[Scruffy]

really? spiral? meh

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

cat is a nightmare to play and play against in digita

i guess you havent experienced that infinite kethis self mill

Oh I have, and it's a pain in the ass too no doubt. It's just a bit less common than the cat and is usually more one turn of prolonged going off as opposed to "I am going to drag this game out 10+ minutes more just dealing with all my cat triggers".

Edit: Son of a bitch, got an elves packet and it's another Allosaurus Shepherd. PUNISHED COW, A MAN DENIED HIS CRATERHOOFS

Edit 2: Although I'm lousy with Teferi. On my third Teferi pack. Give me a goddamn Basri so I can get that final land you fuckers.

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

I can play Standard without wanting to kill myself. That's a good thing.

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

how's this dimir deck look?

It looks a bit vanilla, I mean, not bad for a control shell, but nothing terribly exciting in there. Immediately makes me want to add red for Nico Bolo, maybe Kroxa shenanigans (e.g. the Lazav combo).
I'd say, before you do anything else, up the land count to 26. if you want to play control, gotta have the land count to pull it. Just add two Blast Zones and you're solid. It's great interaction for 1-2 color decks.
I'm also not terribly sure about sharknado as a win condition without any ramping to make it shine, I think you mostly might be using it to eke out some minor card advantage through cycling and killing a guy.

Good to see you going for Bo3, a few comments on the SB - you probably want an Extinction Event somewhere in there. Enter the God Eternals is rotating soon, but it was a good card for stabilizing vs. aggro.
I would expect mono red, white, green and black aggros to be popular, so maybe you want some more catch all answers rather than grasps and gusts. I'm finding that an even split of Eliminates and Heartless Acts
does the trick.
With Magic Negro gone, I would expect people flock back to flash counter-fucking-everything strategies. Blast Zone will give you some edge, but you may also want 3-4x Mystical Disputes in the SB.

The biggest problem I've always had with these colors was closing the game decisively. Sure, leave the sharknado, big lilly or ashiok on board for a few turns and you're done.
If you want to play a more discard-focused game for a change, Vantress Gargoyles and Drown in the Loch are the cards to look into. I would replace Sabotages with Didn't Say Please to have them go online faster.
See a few pages back for our UB flash collaborative effort. Tbh, it was the most success I've had in this color combination, though that's a midrange/tempo thing and it was before the major bans.

yea good ideas I was thinking 24 lands may be too low for this. and I totally forgot that extinction event was even a card! much better than ritual of soot phew. I cut a sharknado and both the erebos interventions and added in 2 extinction events to the main, then swapped some things in the sideboard.

You're right tho it is kinda vanilla but it feels really smooth to play so far, and it's a nice feeling after fucking around with all my goofy 3+ color decks, especially in this standard where I really don't want to be running tap lands. Plus, Lily and Ashiok are just fun as heck to play. We'll see how this does as I climb ladder I guess

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Scruffy]

am i alone in thinking that extinction event is shit?

 

[Thac0]

am i alone in thinking that extinction event is shit?

I kinda like it, it's just that black as a colour is going nowhere atm.
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/format-staples/standard/full/lands
Swamp not in the top 10 most played lands is bad news.

4 mana is a good rate for a board clear, but it is very conditional. Exiling is hot tho.
I think odd and even decks use it occasionally? When using it for the one they are not playing themselves they are immune, if not it's almost just a normal boardwipe.

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/price/Ikoria+Lair+of+Behemoths/Extinction+Event#paper
Definitly overhyped from a price point tho, crashed from 8 bucks to half a dollar.

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

it's shit but it does work as a black board clear without needing to go into

Spoiler

white

. it has potential to be a 2+-for-1 but it sometimes ends up being just a 4mana 1-for-1, it does exile Anal, Hardened. . tho which is nice

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

 

[Thac0]

Reported for doggy farming

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

Reported for doggy farming

Gotta admit, normally in Jumpstart I get my 2 ICRs and then resign and take a new deck to keep farming rares, but the unstoppable doggy rape machine's sorta fun. Might keep playing it until the 6th just to ease back on the gold spending to see what the Amonkhasetu news is.

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

cuz how u got so much gold wtf doood
fuckin jeff bezos over here

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

cuz how u got so much gold wtf doood
jealous

Spent almost nothing through Ikoria and little on Theros, and only like 3 drafts of M21 before spending 50k+ on Jumpstart. Just a lot of long-term hoarding rather than striking it rich in events or whatever.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

WIZZADS released state of the game today so I dunno if they're going to do the AMonhgkeaty remastered info on the 6th or not, but confirmed that it will be in boosters, have limited (Sealed/draft), and regular card crafting. And they say "The focus is on creating an interesting, repeatable limited player experience" which fuck knows what that means. Also info on rotation 'cause why not. On the 13th we'll have standard 2021 matchmaking to make Ravnica and WAR fuck off sooner.

https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-digital/mtg-arena-state-game-august-2020-04

And then just because it cracks me up, 9-0 with dogs dogs.