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I didn't notice the maid being fond of us. I thought her appearance is due to the connections Tendou family has with the place. Also, might be a pun on maid/maiden.

The pair probably represents the relationship between the kami and the Tendou mikos who serve him, rather than some particular personalities.

If Mitsuki displaced Seika, then who did we see during the fourth night? Seika was in control of the pool ghost then. Who saved our ass during the third one? And why did we get a vision of Seika being trapped in the center of the labirynth just a short while ago?

Nah, I don't think that's it, though you are right that Mitsuki is the next maiden candidate.
 

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Though in hindsight maybe we should have actually talked to this maid girl instead of just leering at her.
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Though in hindsight maybe we should have actually talked to this maid girl instead of just leering at her.
I just hope the kami took notes and the next batch of sacrifices visitors will find the place more accomodating. I mean, sheesh, can't you at least give a pool ghost a pair of high heels or something?
 

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I didn't notice the maid being fond of us.
You cannot into glances.:M
The pair probably represents the relationship between the kami and the Tendou mikos who serve him, rather than some particular personalities.

This fit the Juunimon/maiden relationsihp as well, in a sense.
If Mitsuki displaced Seika, then who did we see during the fourth night? Seika was in control of the pool ghost then.

Maybe the replacement is still imperfect and Seika maintained control over some ghosts and/or places of the hospital.
Who saved our ass during the third one?
In my opinion Mitsuki replaced Seika at the end of that night so this is not relevant.
And why did we get a vision of Seika being trapped in the center of the labirynth just a short while ago?

Seji's memories perhaps.
 

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In my opinion Mitsuki replaced Seika at the end of that night so this is not relevant.
Some major change didn't happen until the end of the fourth night when Uehara collected all the talismans. The talismans are connected to Seika, not Mitsuki, and they were still appearing before us.

The old man instructed Uehara how to open a passage to Seika. If he is trying to install Mitsuki in her stead, it makes perfect sense for him to guide us to the current maiden so that he could kill/displace her.

Seji's memories perhaps.
They were 'supernatural' in origin, complete with white static that accompanies such visions.

Isn't she... kind of too young for that? Assuming that he became a father at 18, she would have been barely 17 back then - at the latest. :?
You can try to figure this one out.
Also, does anyone have a clue? Is it 'she was a really, really young author', or is there something obvious that I am missing?

Maybe those weren't real books but 'files' in a 'database'? That way they do not need to correlate to the Kaimei timeline.
 
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Some major change didn't happen until the end of the fourth night when Uehara collected all the talismans. The talismans are connected to Seika, not Mitsuki, and they were still appearing before us.

The old man instructed Uehara how to open a passage to Seika. If he is trying to install Mitsuki in her stead, it makes perfect sense for him to guide us to the current maiden so that he could kill/displace her.

Good point, but I still think that the shift from the new to the old hospital has something to do with Mitsuki replacing Seika.

They were supernatural in origin, complete with white static that accompanies
I have no answer for that, we will find when we go to the basement I guess.
 

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you know what, I'm gonna just going to push into the spin of fail and vote Air: ii v viii

Nevill, this is what you get for rubbing it in.
 

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I was just typing out that now that we have finally agreed what this is all about we should combine the rest of the groups... ah, well, it was probably too much to hope for. :M

I did not notice any time travel.
From Ikei to Kaimei, notice also that the chapters changed name from hours to First, Second night etc.
Hmmm... I wonder if this 'deeper' level Seiji was talking about is supposed to take us further, to the Vault 169, Sakaguchi mansion, and all the way back to the Yomiki village and maybe the sprouting of Juunimon itself.

Nevill, this is what you get for rubbing it in.
Nah, you are just offering me an opportunity to do it two times in a row. :P
 

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Just to let you know guys, Zodiac signs should be combined based on affinity, same with same ain't gonna cut it,
 

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Are we trying to play a matchmaker between them?

Hmmm, don't know what you are talking about, then. Kayano is a perfect match for someone like Taketatsu. :M

For now it looks like we have some pairs, and some loners.

Pairs: Uehara-Sakimura, Tokigawa-Okuyama, Sakaki-Amanozaki
Loners: Maeda (now that there is no Taketatsu), Mitsuki, Sawada.

Sawada looks to me like he is connected to Tokigawa or Okuyama. But then if I am right and he is Seiji's right hand in the world of the living, he is connected to practically everyone, as he is the one who took measures to summon them here.
I doubt Mitsuki is connected to anyone but the ones who conducted the treatment and the ones who knew she is the next sacrifice (which is not necessarily the same people). So, Kayano/Sawada/Tokigawa/Okuyama.
It's a shame we don't know who exactly was involved with Mitsuki on the hospital staff. Okuyama was the one who recognized her, but there are hints that it could have been Tokugawa who knew of a greater purpose behind her visits.
Maeda... she is more isolated than Amanozaki. I don't think she knows anyone here. The only connection I can think of would be Sawada, and only by virtue of him hinting about Seiji's involvement with the project.
How did they manage to lure Sakaki in? We have speculated it was Hidetaka Matsui's fate they dangled before him, but what actually happened to the journalist, and when?

My choice of pairings is:
Tokigawa-Okuyama-Mitsuki
Sakaki-Amanozaki-Sawada
Uehara-Sakimura-Maeda

Are there any other ways they could be connected that would produce a better result?

An alternative would be:
Tokigawa-Okuyama-Mitsuki
Uehara-Sawada-Maeda
Sakaki-Amanozaki-Sakimura
 
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Tokigawa-Okuyama-Mitsuki
Sakaki-Amanozaki-Sawada
Uehara-Sakimura-Maeda

These are the most logical, the problem is that we know Maeda knows almost nothing and the only thing going for Sakimura is the possibility of some unexpected revelation.

Maybe we should have stick to the known couples and add a third person somewhat related, in this case we would have:
Maeda-Taketatsu, most closely related Kayano.
Tokigawa-Okuyama, most closely related Mitsuki.
Uehara-Sakimura, no known connection with others.
Sakaki-Amanozaki are related through Matsui, the most likely addition would have been Mori.
The one out of place is Sawada, we don't know of any possible connection with others.
The only possibility would be a connection with Sakimura, the other one of which we know nothing.
This brings into question the scene where Sakimura attacked Seiji, admittedly he was subdued quite easily, but why put up such a show?
The only reason would be to deceive Uehara, this means that Sakimura is Seiji's henchman as Sawada is and was tasked with watching Uehara, a bit paranoid, but make sense trying to keep tabs on the twin of a medium with the same powers, expecially when you plan to meddle into the occult.
So I guess that these can be also viable ways to connect them:
Sakaki-Amanozaki, without Mori we have just Maeda or Sawada, I prefer Maeda.
Uehara-Sakimura, we remain with Sawada, I would like to gamble on a possible connection with Sakimura.
 
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I am rereading the updates. Again.

- I suspect that Okuyama's claim about some mindfuckery during the first night might have been a lie, and was meant to draw the attention of the group towards us. I don't think we've met doppelgangers yet, did we?

Either that, or it was Kayano's trick. She said she didn't hear Okuyama's request to wait, but she is obviously lying. What would she want with us, though? She was sure we were not Seiji up until we revealed it to her in the previous chapter.

- During the bitchbitchbitch update we've heard several voices.
She knows I’m lying.

The voice of a strange thought flashes through your mind, swiftly followed by another.

Kill her. Kill her now.

Your fingers reflexively curl up for an instant before you force them to relax.

That’s right. There should be no more killing.

Bitchbitchbitchbitchbitchbitchbitchbitchbitch-

Pawns – Pieces of the game - Unnecessary action –
The psycho-killer voice we know and love, the 'pawns' one likely belongs to Seiji, I wonder who is the other, pacifist one. And then there was also this:
That bitch has it.

Shizu.

It’s hers. It’s rightfully hers.

Kill the thief.
The most strange one here is 'Shizu'. Who would be so familiar with Uehara to refer to her like that? Is that her friend she was talking about?

Or was it not about Uehara at all? The wife of the Sakaguchi baron was called Tendou Shizune, after all...
 

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The most strange one here is 'Shizu'. Who would be so familiar with Uehara to refer to her like that? Is that her friend she was talking about?

Or was it not about Uehara at all? The wife of the Sakaguchi baron was called Tendou Shizune, after all...
Well, Seika can refer to her sister as Shizu, or her mother.
 

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I thought we somehow picked up the mom's spirit until Uehara told us her mother survived the ritual. And seeing how our goal is to find her, I don't think we have Seika in our head. Would've saved us a lot of trouble if she was.
 
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Depends on what you consider the surface.

The man/kami/whatever promised us that there is a way back, though I have no idea where it will lead. Will we rise again from the depths of Seiji's soul and retake control of our body? Will we requisition a body from the substance the 'world' is made of? Will we possess someone else? Only one way to find out.
 

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Okuyama-Tokigawa-Mitsuki
The hospital already has its candidate, according to Juuzo. This time it will be different. The old, failed experiment that led to Shinohara’s mysterious disappearance… that is nothing like what Taketatsu will achieve. He grins. In fact, he should go to the hospital right now, to upload the new algorithms into the supercomputer at the depths of the research lab.
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What a dumbass.
 

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treave, what was the "wall" that even Seiji couldn't surpass, but that the email helped Taketatsu surpass?
 

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It's a hologram, bro. A tricky one, indeed.
Had to build her a cybernetic body, first.
Then, the game ended. :negative:
 

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