[LP CYOA] Spiral

[Kipeci]

I guess I'm going to go with A and hope that the exit is violent enough to scare them off/kill them or something. Screw those guys, they're just going to draw the noose tighter around our neck and our guy's not going to win them over with his personality.

 

[Nevill]

Guys, I think if we go with A we should still stress that Kayano has obsessed about wanting the book for a long time and this is suspicious. I would try and nominate someone else to hold the book - Amanozaki would be ideal, I guess.

A is not about having anyone else hold the book.

If I were in Shino's shoes, I would warn everyone about what is going to happen and assure them that no harm will befall anyone... who is on our good side. Then go on an ass-kicking spree.

But who am I kidding, they will just scatter and run away, will they?

Besides, Kayano is probably this LP's manxing and I assume killing her would have severe repercussions.

Where's muh option to tell Sakimura he is a chicken hiding behind barriers and afraid to challange us to a 1-on-1 karate duel for Uehara's hand; tell Shiba that we know all about her side glances at Sakimura; tell Murano that he isn't going to see his remedy is he gets on our bad side, since the book isn't available for the taking and no one can use it but us, and generally fuck with their group in a myriad of other ways? I'd vote for that.

(No, I am not actually requesting it)

And you have the power to actually demonstrate you're not a spirit if you want to, by shattering the barrier to start with.

The Nurse is a ghost and she can shatter barriers just fine.

 

[treave]

If I were in Shino's shoes, I would warn everyone about what is going to happen and assure them that no harm will befall anyone... who is on our good side.

You can if you want to. You're a good guy after all.

Where's muh option to tell Sakimura he is a chicken hiding behind barriers and afraid to challange us on a 1-on-1 karate duel for Uehara's hand; to tell Shiba that we know all about her side glances at Sakimura; tell Murano that he isn't going to see his remedy is he gets on our bad side, since the book isn't here and no one can use it but us, and generally fuck with their group in a myriad of other ways?

Wrong character. Maybe if you wake up the other guy.

The Nurse is a ghost and she can shatter barriers just fine.

Kayano's group doesn't know that, they're pretty simplistic.

 

[Azira]

Meh. Time for a rest and some conversing with Ei.
I'm all for B

 

[Nevill]

You can if you want to. You're a good guy after all.

Yeah, no. The other guy isn't.

At this point I would not project Ei unless I absolutely need to.

Besides, they have driven themselves into a corner here. There is no book to take from us by force, and if they are willing to let us sit there until we change our mind, then no one gets out of the hospial. They need to eat and drink, after all. I think they will tire of waiting first.

What happens then, though? Will they elect a new leader? Will they leave us behind and go out with no artefacts to protect them? Or will they attempt to trick us into manifesting the book?

One way to find out. B.

Also, Ei time!

 

[Kz3r0]

Prople are missing that B will allow us to contemplate other options, unless Treave is being deceptive we should be able to make another choice, no need for asking for alternatives now.

 

[Nevill]

Prople are missing that B will allow us to contemplate other options

It will also allow Kayano to influence them further, so our other options might not have an effect they would otherwise.

I would expect them to reach a conclusion and our next choice to be how to react to it. I also expect the conclusion to be something we won't like.

 

[Rex Feral]

B

 

[Azira]

It will also allow Kayano to influence them further, so our other options might not have an effect they would otherwise.

I would expect them to reach a conclusion and our next choice to be how to react to it. I also expect the conclusion to be something we won't like.

And then we sic Ei on them.

 

[Baltika9]

B, definitely.
As a matter of fact, I propose a modification: sit down, put on our best smugface and take a nap. As far as they know, we're safe inside that barrier. But they're not.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Ugh. I fucking told you so.

Seriously, I ought to just make that my sig so I don't have to keep typing it.

A

maybe giving away our life force will wake up the other guy and we can start making some sensible choices.

 

[Tigranes]

My bad about the 'hold the book nonsense'.

B. I think at this point we can safely say "fuck you" to the shitty half of this lot, and resolve never to risk ourselves for them. But there're still a few that we're trying to & will be useful to bring round to our side, notably Uehara and Amanozaki.

 

[Nevill]

Ugh. I fucking told you so.

But who was Theseus? I am confused.

B. I think at this point we can safely say "fuck you" to the shitty half of this lot, and resolve never to risk ourselves for them.

The relationships between them are too tangled to commit to anything. Throwing anyone under the bus might trigger Sakimura, abandoning her school friends will destroy what little goodwill we have accumulated with Uehara, and acting in bad faith may drive her and Amanozaki away from us.

Remember manxing, bros. We were never in favor of sparing him, but we never really had a choice in the matter.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Ugh. I fucking told you so.

But who was Theseus? I am confused.

The Codex was Theseus, as usual.

I told you that Kayano would be a problem and that we needed to learn how to deal with the ghost first. Actually, I was rather hoping the ghost would kill her and the others while we were finding out how to deal with it.

Now, don't get me wrong, there is still a chance that when the ghost comes, Kayano will try to retool the barrier for her and we will be able to escape. Of course, it's also likely that the ghost will simply kill us first...

 

[Nevill]

I told you that Kayano would be a problem

My oh my, a twist! What gave it away?

Actually, I was rather hoping the ghost would kill her and the others while we were finding out how to deal with it.

Kayano is the only one who can use spells. If anyone was going to be killed here, it wasn't her.

Now, don't get me wrong, there is still a chance that when the ghost comes, Kayano will try to retool the barrier for her

She'd sooner try to run away and have the ghost kill us while we are immobilized and can't follow her example. She should be aware we are no less dangerous to her at this point.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Which was my whole reason for the "I told you so".

It would be better if we could just safety wait her out and or tell the others we know how to exercise the ghost. As it is, the waiting game is rather dangerous for us.

I'm *hoping* she won't want us to die just yet. She wants that book pretty badly. Then again, she'll probably just use the ghost as a bargaining chip: give me the book and I'll let you out. Hopefully the others won't go along with it, but they may be too scared of the ghost to cut the string strengthening the barrier...

It's all coming down to our relationships with Uehara and Amanozaki. They may be our only way out.

 

[Nevill]

Which was my whole reason for the "I told you so".

The water is wet.

Consider it my 'told you so' next time we encounter the pool ghost.

Then again, she'll probably just use the ghost as a bargaining chip: give me the book and I'll let you out. Hopefully the others won't go along with it, but they may be too scared of the ghost to cut the string strengthening the barrier...

And if we give her the book, why would she need us around?

At this point she could just ditch the others and let us all die.

If it comes to such a situation we will have to embrace our inner Nii-san, not give away valuable folios to the peasants that can't fully appreciate them.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Uh, if it was so obvious to you that we would be having to fight off Kayano and that that would make us easy prey for the pool ghost because we still don't know how to exercise it, why did you vote to follow the others instead of learning how to fight the pool ghost first, like I suggested after the previous update?


Ps:

Btw, cold hearted as i may be toward Uehara, I now see that she was completely justified in the way she has treated us from the start. Our other self must have straight up murdered her a thousand times. If the lp were from her perspective, I totally would have been in favor of screwing over that shinoseki bastard...

That said, I still wish we had broken her.

 

[Nevill]

Uh, if it was so obvious to you that we would be having to fight off Kayano and that that would make us easy prey for the pool ghost because we still don't know how to exercise it, why did you vote to follow the others?

Because I didn't want to leave the others with her?

I don't see what 'fighting off Kayano' has to do with making us 'easy prey for the ghost'. First, I do not see any fighting yet. Second, I do not see the ghost.

It was a pretty clear choice - to pursue the ghost, or to pursue the safety of others. We chose. And we are not done with the consequences of the choice yet. Which is why I find all this talk about 'resolving not to give a fuck about them' contradictory to the stance we have taken.

If the lp were from her perspective, I totally would have been in da our of screwing over that shinoseki bastard...

We are trying to win her trust back. That was a part of the choice when we didn't wander off on our own and remained with her and the others - to form a working relationship and to get the information out of her.

I am simply being consistent with the direction I am trying to take the character in.

It's all coming down to our relationships with Uehara and Amanozaki. They may be our only way out.

Quite likely so. That's why I am voting for the choices that I feel would improve them.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

The ghost will come. As for fighting, if you look up the definition you will find that it involves more than violence. In this case, we are coming into conflict with her - which should be perfectly obvious to anyone not grasping for straws so.

My point is that I warned you this would happen. However, since you already knew that and say you would have done this anyway, I retract my I told you so and replace it with a "dude, wtf?".

 

[Grimgravy]

B

 

[GreyViper]

Yeah a real WTF moment. Didn't we already peg Kayano as spell caster who is working for our enemy? Honestly I kind of expected the info dump option to win, but walking into obvious trap, damn.
Anyway the key to get out are our two lovely companions. Time being the essence, until the corruption takes full effect on the two infected. So cut out losses and get the two girls, failing that find that ghost detective who had the answers
Knowledge being power and all that jazz.

B

 

[Jester]

B

 

[treave]

It would be better if we could just safety wait her out and or tell the others we know how to exercise the ghost. As it is, the waiting game is rather dangerous for us.

Well, you don't actually know how to exorcise the Nurse yet. You only know that you have to exorcise the Nurse to progress to the next level i.e. deeper, but I don't think that going deeper is what they want to do.

But yeah, you can be a bit less honest and tell them that finding out more about the Nurse and putting her to rest will help you get out of here, but I figure you can do the same in either A or B.

 

[Nevill]

At present, Amanozaki is confused, Uehara definitely knows the truth but has decided to not say anything for now, Sawada is on the fence, Sakimura is liable to side against you, and the others have firmly bought into her bullshit for some reason.

Alright. I guess we should really find out the 'some reason' here.

She only needs to promise Murano and Kozaka a cure to sway them completely to her side. Desperate people are easiest to manipulate.

Which is what I can't wrap my mind about this whole situation. Kayano is powerless to help them and can't take the book from us since we have it hidden. She is essentially nobody, we are their leader who has demonstrated some extraordinary abilities, and the only other known spellcaster is on our side. They have little to achieve by following her and a lot to lose by losing our favor. The only thing we need is for that realization to settle in.

They want to get the book to grant themselves the power to survive the dangers of this place - they are as good as dead without it, - yet they depend completely on our goodwill to obtain it. "Give us the book or you are not leaving the barrier!" I'm sorry, if I were the spirit, why would I care about leaving the barrier? And if I am a person - and you are counting on it by making an ultimatum that only a flesh and blood person would care about - aren't you digging your own graves by antagonizing me and splitting the group under a false pretence?

We have such a huge leverage to use, so many doubts and uncertainties to place in their little panicked heads, and we are taking a nap instead.