Inactive [LP CYOA] Overlord

[Rex Feral]

I'm going mostly for do-gooder votes now to bring a balance to all this "Maim and Murder" trend I've been seeing.

Besides I want a cool Affable Evil character that can be polite, charismatic and witty in dialogue as well as pragmatic and brutally decisive and effective in other choices, instead of opting for EVULS OVERLORD: RAPE FOR THE RAPE GOD, batshit insane dude that watches kids being raped and eviscerates people for fun.

Can we eviscerate people for fun? Of course, as a stronger creature on the food chain we have the right of life and death over them.
Any being that is bigger, smarter, more organized or simply stronger than another being can do whatever he wants with the latter. To eat him, fuck him, to kill him just because he's in the mood. It's the law of life .

Will we eviscerate people for fun? We'd have to be role-playing a character with an extraordinarely small dick to enjoy the suffering of defenseless creatures. From my point of view, it's proof of micropenis, social inadequacies and frustrations from one's side to channel their violent side for entertainment to things that cannot defend themselves properly.

 

[GreyViper]

B. Girl.
A.2.
I say we adopt and apprentice the girl to Rin so she could teach her skills to her.

 

[Nevill]

Will we eviscerate people for fun? We'd have to be role-playing a character with an extraordinarely small dick to enjoy the suffering of defenseless creatures. From my point of view, it's proof of micropenis, social inadequacies and frustrations from one's side to channel their violent side to things that cannot defend themselves properly.

On the other hand, it is simply inefficient to go after the things that can defend themselves properly. And it is a duty of the weak to recognize those who are stronger and bow before them.

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Really, though, I have zero remorse for those paladins we've killed. They tried to get cute because they have thought themselves tough. They weren't. End of story. Well, their story, anyway.

I say we adopt and apprentice the girl to Rin so she could teach her skills to her.

The boy goes to Rin to become the master torturer. The girl stays with us.

By the way, that Universal translator spell - did we teach it to Rin? How did she think to pry information out of humans otherwise?

Also, that jewel-encrusted gauntlet... is it anything like Witchblade? If so, we are fucked...

Minor things:

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You are not going to waste a healing potion on him, but if he can recover from a chest wound on his own, perhaps you will keep him around for my answers.

You check your invisibility spell(.) As they draw closer [...]

Typos.

Summon: Electric Wolf - Create up to 10 Rank F wolf-shaped lightning elementals per rank of caster's mana.

Missing the incantation. Beasts of lightning, answer my call. Not sure if these things need to be added, but since we started doing it for others...

C. A jewel-encrusted gauntlet, gaudy but solid in its construction. It had been in a chest, and strangely enough wrapped in scrolls.

Not listed among the items. Mah lootz! Or is it because of lack of research?

And tally.

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Kz3r0 B A2
Nevill B A2
profreshinal B C
Baltika9 A B2
Esquilax A A3
Kipeci B A3>A2
Elfberserker A A1
asxetos B A3
archaen B A1>A3
Rex Feral B A1>A2>A3
Azira B A1>A2
lightbane A A1
Absinthe B x
Jester B A2
Lambchop19 B A2>A4
ScubaV B C>A2
Grimgravy B A2>A3
Quetzacoatl A A3
Storyfag A A3
Greyviper B A2
oscar B A3
Cassidy B A2
wjw A A1
TOME B A2

A - 7
B - 17

A1 - 6 (4)
A2 - 8 (11)
A3 - 6
B2 - 1
C - 2 (1)

 

[Rex Feral]

On the other hand, it is simply inefficient to go after the things that can defend themselves properly. And it is a duty of the weak to recognize those who are stronger and bow before them.

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Really, though, I have zero remorse for those paladins we've killed. They tried to get cute because they have thought themselves tough. They weren't. End of story. Well, their story, anyway.

I was referring mostly to finding pleasure in punishing the weak. Those paladins had it coming, as well as any other who provokes us or our underlings.

Also how will we evolve is we don't constantly challenge ourselves seeking worthy foes? Is this how Master Zhang taught us?

 

[Nevill]

Also how will we evolve is we don't constantly challenge ourselves seeking worthy foes? Is this how Master Zhang taught us?

Wrong character, wrong genre, wrong game.

One of the points of our protagonist is that he is more than willing not to seek foes at all, seeping wine and groping the waitresses at a local pub. Unfortunately, he does have something in common with Jing, and that's his luck, so the foes and trouble of all kinds seem to seek him out on their own.

 

[Storyfag]

Also, that jewel-encrusted gauntlet... is it anything like Witchblade? If so, we are fucked...

More like the glove of Darth Vader. With all the implications of a glove fostering blindness

 

[Rex Feral]

I don't think the point of evolving into someone stronger is alien to our character, as it's an investment for the future.

We get stronger now and we don't have to struggle later. Not unlike the "learn faster" spell, which was a lot of effort now, to spare some potential effort later. We didn't chose that, but it might have crossed his mind, so it is in character.

Also we don't have to actively seek strong foes, just to challenge them when we see them, to test ourselves. This way, once we assert dominance, they might also become potential new recruits. As in people who do stuff for us, another investment in our laziness.

 

[Esquilax]

I don't think the point of evolving into someone stronger is alien to our character, as it's an investment for the future.

We get stronger now and we don't have to struggle later. Not unlike the "learn faster" spell, which was a lot of effort now, to spare some potential effort later. We didn't chose that, but it might have crossed his mind, so it is in character.

Also we don't have to actively seek strong foes, just to challenge them when we see them, to test ourselves. This way, once we assert dominance, they might also become potential new recruits. As in people who do stuff for us, another investment in our laziness.

Speaking as a lazy person myself, this sounds like an awful lot of hard work for what seems like not much potential for future laziness. I just don't see Erdrick as the kind of guy who is motivated by testing himself. He's motivated by the prospect of lots of pussy, or by the idea of being left alone to do fuck-all to his heart's content. He's motivated by revenge too (as we voted on), but even that is because he was forced into a hero role that he never wanted because of some bullshit destiny that he never had a say in. He was happy at the Academy slacking off until the goddesses picked him to be their pawn.

More like the glove of Darth Vader. With all the implications of a glove fostering blindness

I chose the glove because it seemed magical in nature and because a cool article of clothing seems fitting for an Overlord. Now we need a magic cape to go with it.

 

[Jester]

Really, though, I have zero remorse for those paladins we've killed. They tried to get cute because they have thought themselves tough. They weren't. End of story. Well, their story, anyway.

Well they tried to kill, steal and frame. Basically they were highborn bandits trying to dodge justice by conections. People would be happy if they found out they don't have to let them go because of treaty. No tears here.

 

[Kz3r0]

Per usual some people go by tropes and binary thinking with added codexian depravity.
For our character is more fitting committing atrocities by omission or indifference, the exception being utilitarian reasons or revenge.
Making up excuses for the sake of being evil or because this is what was written of the contract of overlordship is lame.
Besides, Prezte seems fond of the humans of this village, we can undermine her loyalty if we go cackling evil here.
Also the Codex never change, after the kicking ass diplomat, the shy womanizer, the NEET special agent we have the lazy busybody.

 

[archaen]

Per usual some people go by tropes and binary thinking with added codexian depravity.
For our character is more fitting committing atrocities by omission or indifference, the exception being utilitarian reasons or revenge.
Making up excuses for the sake of being evil or because this is what was written of the contract of overlordship is lame.
Besides, Prezte seems fond of the humans of this village, we can undermine her loyalty if we go cackling evil here.
Also the Codex never change, after the kicking ass diplomat, the shy womanizer, the NEET special agent we have the lazy busybody.

I think those can be summed up as Dissociative identity disorder depending if Nevill, Baltika, or Esquilax are on vacation and how many YOLO voters are too hungover to contribute on a given day.

 

[oscar]

B
A3

 

[Nevill]

Per usual some people go by tropes and binary thinking with added codexian depravity.

There is nothing inherently wrong with tropes. I mean, it's a good thing to have an idea of a character that you want to play, and odds are it's not an ultra-original concept and you've probably encountered at least a few characters of the same type in various media. Tropes are nothing but a description of a common ground between those.

How good of a fit your ideal character is for what we have is another matter entirely.

Binary thinking, though, I can agree with. There is a certain false dichotomy that you can either be a 'monster' or a 'paladin', and if you are not striving to be one you definitely long to be the other - and it affects a lot more than our views on the protagonist.

For our character is more fitting committing atrocities by omission or indifference, the exception being utilitarian reasons or revenge.

Hm. I didn't think about it in that way. What do you mean by 'an atrocity by omission'?

I see our character as someone who is a bit myopic and selfish, willing to indulge in some activities that might hurt him in the long run just because he is in the mood for it, but not someone who is actively malicious.

For example, he was willing to nuke the goblins out of the sky because he wanted to show off before Rin and they weren't his business (I don't think the implications of using Gigadyne even crossed his mind), but once the goblins became his assets and their deaths became an inconvenience to him, he quickly grew into the mantle of their benevolent God. Similarly, when he ordered the execution and torture of the Barzam forces without knowing the first thing about them he was thinking of protecting his own relative peace and quiet ('as long as they disappear maybe their peers will leave me and the ruins alone'), but who knows what is going to happen when the Confessor Princess enters the picture?

I am not sure how much of his motivations can be attributed to utilitarianism and how much to his guilty pleasures. Him losing his head (almost literally, too) over a pretty girl was not very rational, but very characteristic of him, and something that I would not want to change.

I also believe the DDC type of character was a contender because of his reluctant attitude towards heroics or villainy, and I like that aspect. Someone who was chosen as the Dark Lord of Mordor by a coincidence rather than an explicit desire to rule with an iron fist, but found that the job pays rather well and decided to stay. And if he has to fend off the armies of the Light and stomp on a few kingdoms to keep it - well, you do what you have to do.

 

[Cassidy]

atrocity by omission?

Only happens in planned economies where everything, food distribution included, is controlled by the overlord, and I don't think Erdrick is or wants to be an Uncle Joe styled overlord.

B

A2

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

I chose the glove because it seemed magical in nature and because a cool article of clothing seems fitting for an Overlord.

Never mind the fact that all the scrolls covering it were meant to seal whatever curse or demonic presence within.

Of course, we don't know for sure because we failed to ask about it and instead asked about angels - a question we could have asked practically anybody and gotten a similar answer, filled with superstitious rumors about crimson wings and firing fireballs from their arses.

 

[Nevill]

Never mind the fact that all the scrolls covering it were meant to seal whatever curse or demonic presence within.

Your point being?

Of course, we don't know for sure because we failed to ask about it it and instead asked about angels - a question we could have asked practically anybody and gotten a similar answer.

While I warned against it, it was not a complete waste as there is also such thing as 'timing'. For example, now we know what most humans expect of angels and, hopefully, know better than to attempt angel diplomacy... or we could resort exactly to that and play upon people's expectations. We have not revealed our halo and our wing yet.

filled with superstitious rumors about crimson wings and firing fireballs from their arses.

The last one might yet be true.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Your point being?

My point being we don't know what the downsides to using it are because we blew our question on angels.

For example, now we know what most people expect of angels and know better than to attempt angel diplomacy...

We knew that as soon as the other guy blurted out "It's a carnage pigeon! Kill it! Kill it before it kills us all! BLAAAAAAARGH!". Everything this guy told us was either redundant or so insubstantial as to be useless. (Unless it somehow leads to unlocking our halo and wings doing all that, but I think we'll get to that point either way, if it's an option.)

 

[Nevill]

My point being we don't know what the downsides to using it are because we blew our question on angels.

That only means that we may now use it without fear or restraint.

We knew that as soon as the guy blurted out

Not really. Why were they afraid of us? Because we are powerful? Because we are Methussian? Or because we are a bloodthirsty abomination that - supposedly - eats children?

Before, you couldn't gauge how the Methussians - who have an angel of their own, mind you - would view you if you revealed yourself. Now you know.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

I suppose you could say that was the case...I mean, if you completely ignored that the name CARNAGE PIGEON and the fact that we do experience genuine blood-thirst both imply that we are some bloodthirsty abomination.

I guess you are right that we know with 100% 99% certainty now, instead of 90% certainty. Though, but my point still stands that we could have asked just about any human this question eventually. This guy knew a lot more valuable info than this. It was a waste.

 

[Nevill]

I mean, if you completely ignored the fact that the name CARNAGE PIGEON and the fact that we do experience genuine blood-thirst both imply that we are some bloodthirsty abomination.

Or that we are just good at killing people. You could have expected the same reaction if someone brought a tank to a knife fight.

I guess you are right that we know with 100% certainty now, instead of 90% certainty though

I believe some people wanted to pose as a Methussian angel before. I doubt there are many of those left.

Though it's the Codex, you'll never know.

It was a waste.

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I see where this is going.

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One of your minions offers to make you a sandwich. What do you choose to put on it?

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Anyone who chooses beef just wants more beef UP THEIR BUTTS.

Yeah well the only reason you want mayonnaise is so that you can pretend it's Kyle's jizz.

I'm voting pickles just because I'm still angry about how you all voted to say "hi" instead of "hello" two updates ago and fucked us all!

Quick! We need a sandwitch vote!

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Or that we are just good at fighting. You could have expected the same reaction if someone brought a tank to a knife fight.

I don't that believe most normal people who are good at fighting - professional soldiers for example - experience euphoria at the sight of a viscera laden bloodscape or the smell of human entrails. Could be wrong though.

I believe some people wanted to pose as a Methusian angel before. I doubt there are many of those left.

Though it's the Codex, you'll never know.

That would be a pretty bad idea. For one thing, the commander implied that the Methussian angel was a slave when we first captured him.

“We are Galbaldian forces sent here to spy on Methuss. If… if you are in any way a sla... a subject of Methuss, by the Concord of Loum we submit to your forces as prisoners of war, and expect to be treated accordingly.”

Nothing like pretending to be a slave to get you in good with the locals. That and the fact that we don't know how many people even know about the angel or would recognize us as him if the angel has two wings...

 

[Nevill]

I don't that believe most normal people who are good at fighting - professional soldiers for example - experience euphoria at the sight of viscera laden bloodscape or the smell of human entrails. Could be wrong though.

Well, we are not 'people', for starters. Also:

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By the way, we are still unsure how it works and why the scene in the kitchen didn't arouse us all that much despite excessive gore. Maybe angels really are combat death machines.

That would be pretty stupid as the commander implied that the Methussian angel was a slave when we first captured him.

I do not follow. Why would that be an obstacle?

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Well, what advantage would posing as a slave give, for one? Also, again, what happens if said slave is unknown to most people? The angel was only a rumor after all. And what happens if it is known to most people but is known to have two wings...and be female?

And my point in bring up the name carnage pigeon and our bloodthirst is that both tell us most of what this guy knows about creatures like ourselves in this setting. That they are feared creatures that enjoy carnage and that they are known for this by the guy's country. The guy telling us vague rumors and his own personal fears doesn't really add anything new.

In fact, for all we know, it could merely be this guy's country that fears them so and everyone else regards them as reasonable - if a terror in battle.

 

[Nevill]

Also, again, what happens if said slave is unknown to most people? The angel was only a rumor after all. And what happens if it is known to most people but is known to have two wings...and be female?

Ah, I see. Yeah, not the best of our ideas. :D

In fact, for all we know, it could merely be this guy's country that fears them so and everyone else regards them as reasonable - if a terror in battle.

It's a combination of facts. That the fear permeats as far as child folklore that adults are still afraid of when they grow up suggests that they are, indeed, something scary. It also makes it more clear why Methussians would want to enslave someone they allegedly rely on. Normally such activities do not end well, but maybe they just think it necessary.

Well, at least it makes it clear that we shouldn't reveal our nature if we don't want to risk people soiling their pants. Also, there is a possibility that Methuss might go into a RED ALERT mode if they hear about an unaccounted for angel squatting in their ruins.

By the way, if you think we are losing on information, why are you killing the soldiers?

 

[treave]

By the way, that Universal translator spell - did we teach it to Rin? How did she think to pry information out of humans otherwise?

Yeah, she knows how to cast it since the two of you worked on it together.