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Wizardry Long Live Wizardry! (And The All-New Games By Ex-Wizardry Developers)

Cyanide

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Thank you both! I’ll check out Eliminage.
Labyrinth of Refrain, Elminage Gothic 3DS and Undernauts are also good games to begin with since they are way more accessible for beginners.
 

Arkhestarmatis

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Is there a translation for wizardy academy titles I haven't played any of their titles but just seeing the anime vibe and bit of .hack designs which pretty much piqued my interest
 

Ysaye

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Can anybody recommend which version of Wizardry: Llylgamyn Saga should i play?
A lot of people swear by the SNES version, which is easy enough to access and play if you are willing to use emulation. The interface is a lot cleaner than the originals than most of the other versions (the MacIntosh had a great interface for it's time) and it was formally translated to engl/rish. If you believe that "errors" like the stat decreases should be erased, then there are patches for that version as well.

The Sega Saturn / Playstation versions are probably the prettiest from what I can tell from screenshots, but I am still trying to get my hands on a copy of them to try out and see how they play.

If you want that retro wireframe feeling coupled with easy accessibility, the original Wandroid 1-3 for google phones is a cheap, fairly faithful reproduction. I note that TaKa has also just recently made a remake in June which eschews the wireframes for solid walls and a few extra better graphics which move away from that original feel.

There is comparison of many of the options here, although it mostly focuses on the aesthetics.
http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/wizardry-llylgamyn-trilogy-version-comparison/
 

victim

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If you want that retro wireframe feeling coupled with easy accessibility, the original Wandroid 1-3 for google phones is a cheap, fairly faithful reproduction.
I found the first Wandroid enjoyable. Haven't gotten around to any more yet
 

Dorarnae

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I remember the days when aweigh played elminage gothic and met belial and star gazer hehe.
Decided to replay the game lately. Had a fight in a dark zone and some monster exploded and luckily killed all his friend, phew.
what a great game, wish there was another entry in the serie.
 

Matador

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Codex+ Now Streaming!
Wizardry: Five Ordeals is now in English



Update 2022/8/25

Updates from previous betas:
New
- Official scenarios are now officially available in English.

With the development of the editor this is shaping to be the definitive classic Wizardry title (excluding Elminage).

All the people in general RPG forum who claim themselves Wizardry fans don´t have an excuse to not support this. This is the old-school prestigious incline I read so much about in front of your eyes and it´s coming from Japan, because the West is rotten to its core.

So stop buying cucked eurojank and popamole trannie-pedo shit from USA and support this.
 

KeighnMcDeath

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Now if only Fargo would release the construction set for the Trilogy Remaster, MM create a decent set, and ultima get some construction sets going. Then most my old-school bases would be complete.

Quite likely this will be the reason to STEAM up my laptop.
 

turkishronin

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Wiz Empire 3 has unlocked new levels of shitposting. After a big fight you get down to the bottom floor to fight the last boss. There you move around the map and find 4 wells placed around the floor. Thinking "well, it's time to heal before the big thing!!" You drink from them and each one give you damage, paralysis, poison and PETRIFY conditions.
If I didn't have the power of emulator SaveState on my side I would've punched the screen :argh:
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Grauken

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Wiz Empire 3 has unlocked new levels of shitposting. After a big fight you get down to the bottom floor to fight the last boss. There you move around the map and find 4 wells placed around the floor. Thinking "well, it's time to heal before the big thing!!" You drink from them and each one give you damage, paralysis, poison and PETRIFY conditions.
If I didn't have the power of emulator SaveState on my side I would've punched the screen:argh:
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KeighnMcDeath

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Lol. Even Ultima 3 can't top that with their poison and damage fountains. That's the Wizardry Legacy for ya.
 

aweigh

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just bought my copy of Wiz: Five Ordeals, and they said they will release The Prisoners Of The Battles and The Absence of Misericordia as dlc. it's an exciting time to be a Wizardry fan.
 

Cyanide

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"Top 10 biggest trolls in Wizardry's history"

The number 1 should be Wizardry IV's first room
 

somerandomdude

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Wiz Empire 3 has unlocked new levels of shitposting. After a big fight you get down to the bottom floor to fight the last boss. There you move around the map and find 4 wells placed around the floor. Thinking "well, it's time to heal before the big thing!!" You drink from them and each one give you damage, paralysis, poison and PETRIFY conditions.
If I didn't have the power of emulator SaveState on my side I would've punched the screen :argh:
This is what happens when people get spoiled by free full heals at save points (which are frequent), or recovery springs. I think its funny when the game trolls you like this.

It was in one of the King's Field games, I believe it was 2, but there was this place with tons of hidden passages, and you took several and there was this big freaking gold chest in this room, and it was protected by wall spears all around it, and when you actually worked your way to it to open it, it had a skeleton inside, and no loot. What takes effort to reach isn't always rewarding, same as in life. Games don't tend to do stuff like this anymore, or at least mainstream games.
 
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turkishronin

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Finished Wizardry Empire 3.
The dungeons have very good designs with a lot of one-way doors/walls, teleporters, traps, dark areas, etc. Combined with limited map usage it was challenging at times. Not to mention that you don't get any teleport spell(as far as I know, finished the game with mage not maxed out) there's a lot of dangerous backtracking.
The negative point is that the bosses of each level felt too easy. The last boss was at least a bit challenging since he was completely immune to all magic damage but even that really boiled down to spamming AC+/AC- spells and just hitting him with physical attack.
My favorite class so far was Summoner. Unlike Eliminage you can't just capture random monsters, there are magic circles in dungeons where you fight specific monsters and capture them which helps with balance. They also have access to two sets of Alchemy and Psi spells.
The monster variety was also very decent. You can never relax as there are packs of monsters that are actually stronger than the floor boss. My worst nightmare was a Flying Snake that could petrify party members with physical attacks alone. It had low hitpoint but showed up in big numbers which forced me to waste my spells.
There's also a post-game dungeons which I haven't checked yet.
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Dorarnae

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Finished Wizardry Empire 3.
The dungeons have very good designs with a lot of one-way doors/walls, teleporters, traps, dark areas, etc. Combined with limited map usage it was challenging at times. Not to mention that you don't get any teleport spell(as far as I know, finished the game with mage not maxed out) there's a lot of dangerous backtracking.
The negative point is that the bosses of each level felt too easy. The last boss was at least a bit challenging since he was completely immune to all magic damage but even that really boiled down to spamming AC+/AC- spells and just hitting him with physical attack.
My favorite class so far was Summoner. Unlike Eliminage you can't just capture random monsters, there are magic circles in dungeons where you fight specific monsters and capture them which helps with balance. They also have access to two sets of Alchemy and Psi spells.
The monster variety was also very decent. You can never relax as there are packs of monsters that are actually stronger than the floor boss. My worst nightmare was a Flying Snake that could petrify party members with physical attacks alone. It had low hitpoint but showed up in big numbers which forced me to waste my spells.
There's also a post-game dungeons which I haven't checked yet.
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I liked wizardry empire 3, just felt a bit short, as if the post game wasn't finished/missed something. The psp version added some more stuff but I don't think it added much.
 

victim

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I haven't played Five Ordeals yet but I got it and Infinite Adventures at the same time and chose to play IA first and it is an awesome game in the same genre and I feel like I'll end up enjoying it more than 5 Ordeals once I play it just because the stock Wizardry formula can start to be a bit repetitive (not asking for total renovation but maybe different classes or something lol)
 

Pyreen

Educated
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Feb 25, 2017
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I haven't played Five Ordeals yet but I got it and Infinite Adventures at the same time and chose to play IA first and it is an awesome game in the same genre and I feel like I'll end up enjoying it more than 5 Ordeals once I play it just because the stock Wizardry formula can start to be a bit repetitive (not asking for total renovation but maybe different classes or something lol)

I can recommend Wizardry Empire 2 Plus in that case - new races with their own special abilities, new classes (barbarians, summoners, etc.), new spell schools and spells, new mechanics like intra party racial harmony modifiers, more in depth itemization where every piece of armor and weaponry modifies both your AC and your THAC0, arguably the best dungeon design out of any Wizardry, and other subtle but essential balancing modifications to the basic formula like being able to convert money into XP, expanded temple services (have your party members teleported out of the dungeon for a fee) etc.etc.
And thanks to Codex members you can play it entirely in English:

https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...-princess-for-pc-translation-completed.96776/
 

darkSaviour

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Nov 2, 2020
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Hello, i'm trying to play the PC Engine version of the Wizardry games (the first and second one for now) and i am unable to use the second elevator even with the blue ribbon (says "not working" when you select a floor). Not even going down manually you can access the elevator on level 5 and below. Maybe there's some other logic that is different from other versions. You don't need the gold key for the first elevator but still you want to have it to pass the "bear statue door" on level 4 for example.
I have finished the SNES version and played a bit of the PS1 one... maybe i forget something to do?
 

Dorarnae

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Jan 21, 2016
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finally finished all 73 events on elminage gothic, just need to lvl up so I can steal items from incarnation and the other boss which souldn't be too bad considering I can redo some fight in this version. Quite a few thing that I like on the 3ds version but I think the biggest draw back is the aging, it's almost completly gone in this version. I thought the psp/pc version was better for this, age actually meant something and having to farm chest for the goddess trap. I'll have to replay the psp version someday to compare a few things.

and after this I'll start wizardry five ordeal :)
 

Dorarnae

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trying the traveler's property scenario on wizardry five ordeal. I was expecting a chute on the first floor with the warnings the game gave, but wasn't expecting another chute on the second floor. I managed to get out alive but that was close lol.
 

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