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KickStarter Knights of the Chalice 2 Thread - Augury of Chaos

Darkwind

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So he freaked everyone out with the tokens for nothing, interesting!

Its a pretty huge deal actually. I was just about to post here asking is this Isometric Sprites or flat 2D tokens. I greatly prefer the former to the latter. The latter is Roll20 without the fun of the multiplayer experience and simulated tabletop environment. I.E. it's shit. The former harkens back to the days of yore of Arcanum, Ultima 7, etc.
 

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So he freaked everyone out with the tokens for nothing, interesting!

Its a pretty huge deal actually. I was just about to post here asking is this Isometric Sprites or flat 2D tokens. I greatly prefer the former to the latter. The latter is Roll20 without the fun of the multiplayer experience and simulated tabletop environment. I.E. it's shit. The former harkens back to the days of yore of Arcanum, Ultima 7, etc.
Many people think to the contrary, it is a very controversial topic. What a coincidence that both are available.

I wonder how many of you, who don't buy it because of the price, went back to play some AAA trash for which you paid even more? Cyberbug perhaps?
I'm not saying that majority did it, maybe not a single person. But i keep wondering.
I am not saying it isn't overpriced either. It is. As i said before, Pierre have mistaken his game fort a wargame and Heroic Fantasy Games for Matrix Games. However this is also a game that can give very good amount of hours of play /$. So let's not go overboard with the "it's so costly" train. I'm a poorfag Potato (even relative to most other Potatoes) and i can afford it. And Pierre is on of the few people making games these days that, i feel, deserves my money.
 

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So he freaked everyone out with the tokens for nothing, interesting!

Its a pretty huge deal actually. I was just about to post here asking is this Isometric Sprites or flat 2D tokens. I greatly prefer the former to the latter. The latter is Roll20 without the fun of the multiplayer experience and simulated tabletop environment. I.E. it's shit. The former harkens back to the days of yore of Arcanum, Ultima 7, etc.
Many people think to the contrary, it is a very controversial topic. What a coincidence that both are available.

I wonder how many of you, who don't buy it because of the price, went back to play some AAA trash for which you paid even more? Cyberbug perhaps?
I'm not saying that majority did it, maybe not a single person. But i keep wondering.
I am not saying it isn't overpriced either. It is. As i said before, Pierre have mistaken his game fort a wargame and Heroic Fantasy Games for Matrix Games. However this is also a game that can give very good amount of hours of play /$. So let's not go overboard with the "it's so costly" train. I'm a poorfag Potato (even relative to most other Potatoes) and i can afford it. And Pierre is on of the few people making games these days that, i feel, deserves my money.

He's not quite wrong on this , its alike the niche wargames you find on matrix games, very costly and only for hardcore enthusiasts. There's no turn based D&d, every editions, computer game with better AI and combat on the market. Nerds who enjoyed gold box games and such will easily spend that, casuals cant possibly enjoy it anyway.
 

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HOw I set the moon position in this puzzle?
I just don't know, tried to click everywhere in the screen and press every single key and nothing... No moon move its position. How I'm supposed to solve this puzzle?

You click the moons. I just did that an hour ago and it worked for me.
 

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In my country the regional price is equivalent of 10 US Dollars so eh pretty cheap. Altho 40 Euro is, well, kinda dumb. KOTC 1 good and this looks to be enjoyable as well but he is pretty much shooting himself in the foot here. Put it at 25 - 30 Euro and more people might buy.

That being said, after 1 - 2 hours of play my biggest criticism currently would be UI. Feels like nothing is improved or even get more confusing between this and KOTC 1. I spent like 15 minutes trying to find my PP for god sake.
 

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AFter 3 hours gameplay my first impression is really bad. Looks worse than KOTC 1, Worse UI, worse help, more convoluted, and even starts worse and even somehow more generic.
I loved kotc1 and did 16 runs because i enjoyed that much but i'm so far not enjoying this experience, wonder how others are feeling.
If i paid 40 bucks for this i would feel rip off in most cases, lucky it only costed me 2.40.

Maybe I massively change my mind in the next try, but this isn't looking good.

I was overwhelmed and thought it was downgrade but the UI is actually decent. He should of stuck entirely with tokens or hired a artist for low res sprites not a fan of the high res ones. The background graphics are fine.
 

dacencora

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Honestly if tokens vs. sprites is a big hang up for you, you’re probably not going to enjoy the game at all.

Also, the tokens are actually very charming and they frame the game in a little bit different way. At least for me, I sometimes get bothered when sprites are not updated with my new armor set or weapon, but I didn’t care at all with the tokens because they were merely placeholders. The focus was entirely on the gameplay, which is quite good, even if it is soul-suckingly difficult.
 

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So he freaked everyone out with the tokens for nothing, interesting!

Its a pretty huge deal actually. I was just about to post here asking is this Isometric Sprites or flat 2D tokens. I greatly prefer the former to the latter. The latter is Roll20 without the fun of the multiplayer experience and simulated tabletop environment. I.E. it's shit. The former harkens back to the days of yore of Arcanum, Ultima 7, etc.
Many people think to the contrary, it is a very controversial topic. What a coincidence that both are available.

I wonder how many of you, who don't buy it because of the price, went back to play some AAA trash for which you paid even more?
I'm not saying that majority, maybe not a single person. But i keep wondering.
I am not saying it isn't overpriced either. It is. As i said before, Pierre have mistaken his game fort a wargame and Heroic Fantasy Games for Matrix Games. However this is also a game that can give very good amount of hours of play /$. So let's not go overboard with the "it's so costly" train. I'm a poorfag Potato (even relative to most other Potatoes) and i can afford it. And Pierre is on of the few people making games these days that, i feel, deserves my money.
I actually went back to watch Elich playing elden ring, which I can do legally for free.
 

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Honestly if tokens vs. sprites is a big hang up for you, you’re probably not going to enjoy the game at all.

Also, the tokens are actually very charming and they frame the game in a little bit different way. At least for me, I sometimes get bothered when sprites are not updated with my new armor set or weapon, but I didn’t care at all with the tokens because they were merely placeholders. The focus was entirely on the gameplay, which is quite good, even if it is soul-suckingly difficult.

Tokens are for boomer 60+ year old Wargamers who use to setup Axis & Allies boardgames in the late 70s that took 2 hours just to setup the map. Sprites are for newfags from the 80s and early 90s who grew up on Gold Box Games, either way your old AF, take your pick.
 

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Level 5 now and still in the town area. Really enjoying this game.

Question about the sword quest
can you keep it if you kill hag group last? Killed em before reaching to the sword and sword turned into dust

Also whirlwind + cleave does not work. Oh well not that big of a deal.

Think I made a mistake when making a druid
since you get 2 druids in tutorial area. maybe they disappear soon
 
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dacencora

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Honestly if tokens vs. sprites is a big hang up for you, you’re probably not going to enjoy the game at all.

Also, the tokens are actually very charming and they frame the game in a little bit different way. At least for me, I sometimes get bothered when sprites are not updated with my new armor set or weapon, but I didn’t care at all with the tokens because they were merely placeholders. The focus was entirely on the gameplay, which is quite good, even if it is soul-suckingly difficult.

Tokens are for boomer 60+ year old Wargamers who use to setup Axis & Allies boardgames in the late 70s that took 2 hours just to setup the map. Sprites are for newfags from the 80s and early 90s who grew up on Gold Box Games, either way your old AF, take your pick.
Bro I’m in my 20s lol. The digital wargames with tokens are pretty cool too tbh. I never have played a real genuine wargame with counters, but I probably will one day when I am actually old.

Just for frame of reference: the first game I played a lot of was Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast when I was in like 2nd grade.
 

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Is there any reason to create melee fighter type characters, or they are just deadweight like in the first one?
 

Mortmal

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Is there any reason to create melee fighter type characters, or they are just deadweight like in the first one?
Grapple can be needed to immobilize some spellcasters, a samurai with reach weapons can be deadly , there's lot to do with melee they arent deadweight far from it.Too long to list...
 

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