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[Assisted Living Godzilla]

I decided I wanted to play Deus Ex but in Russian and the sound patch I found on Zone of Games is so hilariously distracting as some nerd just talks in Russian over the original sound.

Lots of old foreign language movie dubs do this, especially bootleg ones.

 

[Riddler]

That's true, by the way. On Hungarian TV for example you always hear the original faintly in the background. You get used to it...

When I was in Poland some 20 years ago I watched some TV and it seemed to me that one dude was either doing all the dubbing by himself (very badly) or possibly described what was going on in third person. Did this use to be a thing?

 

[Hafnar the Jester]

When I was in Poland some 20 years ago I watched some TV and it seemed to me that one dude was either doing all the dubbing by himself (very badly) or possibly described what was going on in third person. Did this use to be a thing?

The way it is done - the "lector" (as he is called) is not describing nor adding anything, he reads aloud the voiced lines of the screenplay. It's not a dubbing, because he's not really performing.
It's still pretty much a thing, though, with some of these lectors having a cult following (like Tomasz Knapik for example).

 

[Hellraiser]

That's true, by the way. On Hungarian TV for example you always hear the original faintly in the background. You get used to it...

When I was in Poland some 20 years ago I watched some TV and it seemed to me that one dude was either doing all the dubbing by himself (very badly) or possibly described what was going on in third person. Did this use to be a thing?

It is still a thing but only because TV stations refuse to use subtitles if there is no dubbed version available. ITZ retarded as this is driven 100% by the TV stations and no one else, the movies you see in cinemas are either fully dubbed (mostly those with kid/tween appeal like marvel capeshit, star wars starting from episode I back in the day and of course any family friendly movie animated or live action) or subbed. And that status quo is here for longer than I can remember.

The majority of the population watches or watched with subs in cinemas or pirated series/movies with unofficial subtitles anyway without making a fuss, so really I don't get why this is still a thing.

I guess the origin was that back when they started importing VHS tapes in the 80s it was far easier to use the dude to read the lines (especially for unsanctioned distribution) than do actual subs. I mean it is just sound mixing, while doing subtitles back then required extra gear (that was definitely not cheap) and know-how/effort.

As mentioned it is not really dubbing as there is no performance or voice acting, it is essentially a guy reading subtitles.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

I'm pretty tired of the Sseth ripoffs posted itt.

This guy even called the Telvani "ancap wizards" like Sseth did in his Morrowind review years ago.

 

[Manjuice Nutella]

If you were a kid back then, not knowing any better, this dubbing sounds surprisingly servicable for the late 90's.

honestly, i thought hitman 2 was victim of bootleg dubbing. that intro in broken italian disturbed me so much i never managed to play the game.

source/link?

 

[Manjuice Nutella]

I forgot to mention that halfway in, the voice “actor” for Kain starts voicing Raziel instead for some reason.

At any rate, please enjoy the swan song of this phenomenon:



AFAIK it was the last such high-profile venture, since as you can see things were falling apart, and Max Payne shortly after received an officially distributed professional dubbing with recognizable names, at which point there was no going back. Rest In Peace, Sweet Boyars

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

If you were a kid back then, not knowing any better, this dubbing sounds surprisingly servicable for the late 90's.

honestly, i thought hitman 2 was victim of bootleg dubbing. that intro in broken italian disturbed me so much i never managed to play the game.

source/link?

 

[Strig]

It is still a thing but only because TV stations refuse to use subtitles if there is no dubbed version available. ITZ retarded as this is driven 100% by the TV stations and no one else, the movies you see in cinemas are either fully dubbed (mostly those with kid/tween appeal like marvel capeshit, star wars starting from episode I back in the day and of course any family friendly movie animated or live action) or subbed. And that status quo is here for longer than I can remember.

The majority of the population watches or watched with subs in cinemas or pirated series/movies with unofficial subtitles anyway without making a fuss, so really I don't get why this is still a thing.

I guess the origin was that back when they started importing VHS tapes in the 80s it was far easier to use the dude to read the lines (especially for unsanctioned distribution) than do actual subs. I mean it is just sound mixing, while doing subtitles back then required extra gear (that was definitely not cheap) and know-how/effort.

As mentioned it is not really dubbing as there is no performance or voice acting, it is essentially a guy reading subtitles.

What are you even on about? Yes, dubs in Poland are mainly catered towards children, but the rest is a bit of a stretch.

The majority of the population in Poland watches movies with voice-overs as it is an ageing society and traditional TV is still popular. English is not as well ingrained in the populace as it is in say Scandinavia and most people prefer not to read subtitles if they don't have to. And even younger people who grew up with the internet and probably know the language often prefer voice-overs to dubs. As shown by the Netflix debacle where Polish audiences DEMANDED voice-over translations.

And the origin was a bit earlier, as the live voice-over translations became more popular on TV at the tail end of the '70s. VHS came later and solidified the already wide-spread phenomenon.

My personal opinion is that the dubbings are the worst form of localisation, there is no such thing as a good dubbing for a live action movie. The best you can get is something "serviceable" with your brain doing overtime trying to match the lip movements to what you're actually hearing. Voice-over translation or "lector" doesn't overwrite the original voice lines, so you're still able to get the emotions conveyed by the actors even without knowing the language. I consider it a good middle ground between dubbing and subtitles.

 

[Bigg Boss]

Great I scrolled through four pages of ripoffs to learn there was no video posted. Fuck this thread. I will check YouTube from now on.

*overturns table*

 

[Caim]

Yeah, just follow him there or if you're feeling particularly... particular, you can follow his patreon for free, if only to feel sad how a man can make fun of racial minorities and rake in a five-figure paycheck every time he does it.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

sad? he gets paid for stuff we do for free and for fun.

 

[Kem0sabe]

It is still a thing but only because TV stations refuse to use subtitles if there is no dubbed version available. ITZ retarded as this is driven 100% by the TV stations and no one else, the movies you see in cinemas are either fully dubbed (mostly those with kid/tween appeal like marvel capeshit, star wars starting from episode I back in the day and of course any family friendly movie animated or live action) or subbed. And that status quo is here for longer than I can remember.

The majority of the population watches or watched with subs in cinemas or pirated series/movies with unofficial subtitles anyway without making a fuss, so really I don't get why this is still a thing.

I guess the origin was that back when they started importing VHS tapes in the 80s it was far easier to use the dude to read the lines (especially for unsanctioned distribution) than do actual subs. I mean it is just sound mixing, while doing subtitles back then required extra gear (that was definitely not cheap) and know-how/effort.

As mentioned it is not really dubbing as there is no performance or voice acting, it is essentially a guy reading subtitles.

There's a bunch of stuff on Netflix that I wanted to see but haven't bothered with yet because i hate dubbing and reading subs takes me out of what's going on screen, so I end up consuming the vast majority of the content either in original English, Portuguese or Spanish audio.

 

[deem]

I hate the sound of people talking. I watch exclusively silent films.

 

[Hafnar the Jester]

I hate the sound of people talking. I watch exclusively silent films.

This is the most autistic thing I've read in my whole life. I love it.

 

[thesoup]

I was 9 when I was in Italy visiting some family. Being used to subs in Croatian and already being very fluent in English I thought I'll just ignore the Italian subs and just listen to the English audio on TV. It's then I learned that, to my dismay, Italians dub everything.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

and up until 15-20 years ago we were masterfully skilled at it, sometimes even exceeding the original material (stanley kubrick's word, not mine). now it's a sector ruled only by nepotism, and as such it turned into a shitshow very fast and very hard.

 

[Black]

 

[Bigg Boss]

I waited for that shit?

 

[Zariusz]

18:18 Hmm possible New Vegas vid in future?

 

[Caim]

I relinquish any and all hold on my sanity,

I embrace the freedom of oblivion.

Buy on Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/app/960090/Bloons_TD_6/

I know I took a long ass time to get to this. TL;DR struggled with methylphenidate withdrawal, I got clean, but that doesn't mean my brain magically starts working like people might believe. On the plus side, experienced good amounts of ego death and had my hubris unravel, which is a necessary component of having the self awareness to see that i'm an overpaid clown.

More stuff coming sooner.
Probably shorter and rougher, but that's a lot more fun.

Sincerely,
Sseth

The dude was addicted to Ritalin.

 

[TheEntitledOne]

A fucking tower defense game. Today.

 

[RNGsus]

I hate the sound of people talking. I watch exclusively silent films.

The Thief of Bagdad is my favorite movie of all times.

 

[Sukhāvatī]

The dude was addicted to Ritalin.

He's ADHD.

 

[Bigg Boss]

I was really wondering when he would do a video that I absolutely hated as a result making me question why I liked him in the first place.