sullynathan
Arcane
It's definitely the most ambitious Piranha bytes game that finally tried to not be a remake of Gothic 2, even though it fell flat on its head.
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Sykar
Arcane
To me Gothic 3 is about as bad as Oblivion with a caveat though, unlike Oblivion it had glimpses of good ideas but they were so horrendously implemented like the reputation system. What really put me off how the orcs changed from the previous two games. It was somewhat of a 180 degree turn. I tried the community patch, but it changes nothing for me about the fundamentally crappy gameplay and the moronic story.
And do not get me started on that expan... cash grab.
And do not get me started on that expan... cash grab.
Jack Of Owls
Arcane
Well, if it WAS a demo, it's quite possible that it wasn't from the beginning of the game, so yes, it's possible it was from a different battle. It's been sooo long, and like I said, i started the game three different times and never got more than an hour into it before quitting because it always annoyed me that that tiny piss-ant of a single goblin was marked essential and unkillable so maybe it all merged into muck inside my head and I'm confusing some later part of the game for another. Are there at least giant humanoids in Gothic 3? I think they were carrying clubs IIRC.
Metro
Arcane
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G3 is, indeed, bad. Community patch or not. The patches can help with the awful combat but they can't fix the core design failings as mentioned in the OP. Only thing I disagree with is that I thought the story was fine and the logical progression after G1 and G2.
The Vanished One
Prophet
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I could never finish Gothic 3, but for a game that I could not finish it sure left me some vivid memories.
Such as the sun shining through the mountains before the early patches.
Weird to think we were closer to Fallout then than we are to Gothic 3 itself now. It really has been a long time.
Such as the sun shining through the mountains before the early patches.
Weird to think we were closer to Fallout then than we are to Gothic 3 itself now. It really has been a long time.
There are Ogres that wield stone club/axe looking weapons. However, I don't think they're ever teamed up with Orcs at any point. Orcs generally attack anything that's not an Orc.
Jack Of Owls
Arcane
I just had a sweet flashback to only the second RPG I ever played - Pool of Radiance and the ogres and trolls clubbing my little group senseless with their gargantuan wooden clubs. And then when I finally managed to defeat a particularly fierce onslaught of trolls after a LONG battle, I discovered to my horror and yet great joy that trolls regenerate, and what was finally dead a few minutes earlier rose up to club me senseless again. It was my first regenerated troll. Who the fuck knew that trolls needed fire to be finished off? Certainly not I.
Jack Of Owls
Arcane
One thing I discovered about community patches or unofficial patches is that they can sometimes break a game. I remember playing Oblivion with the Unofficial Patch that had tens of thousands of downloads and it actually broke an important quest line. I had to console in a cheat to get an vital key that went missing due to the patch to progress. So community patches aren't always for the better. And some of these "restored lost content" mods can be tedious, putting stuff back in that the original developers thought were shit or severely messed with the pacing of the game and decided to cut.
At least Forsaken Gods tried something.
JustLooking
Scholar
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Turning orcs from savage hunchbacks into shreks with sidebuns killed the game before it even started.
My grandest disappointment of all gaming, after Gothic 2 and Night of the Raven my hype was off the charts. I died a bit inside when G3 first released.
It's an OK game nowadays with them patches.
It's an OK game nowadays with them patches.
Grampy_Bone
Arcane
In Gothic 3 you could beat any human or orc enemy by spamming LMB at any level with any weapon. But holy shit watch out for boars.
Jarmaro
Liturgist
So to try how much mods and patches improve the game (My playtroughs were only vanilla so far) I decided to install all this shit like CP, content patch or update patch.
So far it's not THAT bad, although after 6 hours of playing Alternate AI I decided to switch it off. Game was obviously not designed to be played this way, even though I use max range weapon (halberd) I can't kill fucking goblin with a stick, he has bigger range than me. It's just pointless to play this way, most unfair gameplay I've seen for a long time, you can't "learn" or git gud beceause system is too inconsistent and buggy.
So far it's not THAT bad, although after 6 hours of playing Alternate AI I decided to switch it off. Game was obviously not designed to be played this way, even though I use max range weapon (halberd) I can't kill fucking goblin with a stick, he has bigger range than me. It's just pointless to play this way, most unfair gameplay I've seen for a long time, you can't "learn" or git gud beceause system is too inconsistent and buggy.
A bad game is not something I want to play through 2 times over, which I have done. With Community Patch installed, of course.
It is true, though, that Gothic 3 is a dumbed-down version of the previous games. Still, it has got its own charm that appeals to me.
It is true, though, that Gothic 3 is a dumbed-down version of the previous games. Still, it has got its own charm that appeals to me.
Because you are dumb.
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I finished it once and it wasn't really worth it and the community patch really just lets you choose what kind of bullshit you want to deal with. Either way combat still comes down to *clickclickclickclick* and hope you stunlock the other guy before he stunlocks you. You also want to pour everything into getting a really big weapon so that you can *clickclickclickclick* people from farther away. Oh and if you see a wolf or a boar, better just reload right now and find a way around.
Finished Gothic 3 - was my first Gothic
* Had no idea who the characters were or what was going on. Game didn't do much to provide backstory to newbies.
* Finally made it to the end/sand area and spoke to some folks who knew me, but no real satisfying ending after 100+ hours of this
* Coin sized teleporter stones that were difficult to find
* 89 spoons on my character at all time
* Patched, was playable but staggering overheating when playing unpatched. So bad it would shut down my system.
* Had no idea who the characters were or what was going on. Game didn't do much to provide backstory to newbies.
* Finally made it to the end/sand area and spoke to some folks who knew me, but no real satisfying ending after 100+ hours of this
* Coin sized teleporter stones that were difficult to find
* 89 spoons on my character at all time
* Patched, was playable but staggering overheating when playing unpatched. So bad it would shut down my system.
Yeah, this I thought was ridiculous. Without a spear, just reload. With spear, no real challenge.
This is true. And explains why the people who defend the Gothic games are morons. They are all shit. There are some things I like about them but they are far outweighed by how bad everything else is. I can't believe some people are so starved of something to do that they would play through something like that.
fantadomat
Arcane
Go and eat a bag full of broken glass and shit.!.
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