Fallout 76 - online Fallout spinoff from Bethesda - now on Steam with Wastelanders NPC expansion

[Daemongar]

Fallout is like Star Wars now.

Yes and no. In the proper hands, FO:NV expanded the universe in a way that made sense and never lost the feel of the environ. It took what was there and extrapolated out and added to the whole. In incapable, unimaginative hands, Fallout just focused on the main points of the Fallout story. Fallout 3 and 4. It took the cliffs notes of Fallout (combat, vaults, mutants, and ncr) and assembled them into an easily forgettable story, without expanding anything.

That is to say: Star Wars could be about more than just black and white evil v. good. The failure to move past that keeps Star Wars a boring predictable story repeated over and over. Fallout NV moved past that theme and expanded the world without pissing on what came before it.

 

[Wunderbar]

Fallout is like Star Wars now.

Yes and no. In the proper hands, FO:NV expanded the universe in a way that made sense and never lost the feel of the environ. It took what was there and extrapolated out and added to the whole. In incapable, unimaginative hands, Fallout just focused on the main points of the Fallout story. Fallout 3 and 4. It took the cliffs notes of Fallout (combat, vaults, mutants, and ncr) and assembled them into an easily forgettable story, without expanding anything.

That is to say: Star Wars could be about more than just black and white evil v. good. The failure to move past that keeps Star Wars a boring predictable story repeated over and over. Fallout NV moved past that theme and expanded the world without pissing on what came before it.

NV is like if Lucas teamed up with Spielberg and made competently written SW spin-off.

 

[Daemongar]

NV is like if Lucas teamed up with Spielberg and made competently written SW spin-off.

I'll buy that, as - like FO:NV, hate FO:NV, nobody every said it doesn't fit the prior works/cosmos of Fallout created. Of course, now that I said that, some shitbag at Bethesda will start FO:V with Caesar being killed by an army of Super Mutants, after he previously handed the Codex to TNO as he escaped the Cellars on his way to the Lyacium to give the Ring of Stars to Max.

 

[The Dutch Ghost]

I also have mentally made the connection between Star Wars and Fallout, in fact I have made the comparison between this "new producers/new owners and classic franchises" with several IPs long before Disney bought the Star Wars IP.
It started during the 2000s when developers/companies suddenly came to the conclusion that "classic ideas/designs/formulas no longer worked" and that instead of continuing to expand and improve on these or perhaps come up with new ideas that would be logical follow ups, these classics had to be radically changed in order to with the times or "In" again in order to appeal to a new audience.

And the old audience? Perhaps they would get a scrap but in general they were flipped the finger.
And if they spoke up that this was nothing like what made the IP good in the first place or a logical evolution of it? Well there were now new followers (and some old ones who decided to go along with the flow), telling the old fans that they should "shut up" because all change is good (change is neither inherently good or bad, we base our opinion on the results) and that they should stop living in the past because these ideas needed to appeal to a new audience.

In Fallout's case I wonder why Bethesda fans feel that it should be redesigned and lore rewritten in order to appeal to them. They could not give a fuck about Fallout 1 and 2 because they found it prehistoric looking and it has slow boring turn based combat.

They claim that Bethesda saved it from being forgotten. Well seeing how well it is being remembered by a lot of gamers turned developers I really doubt that that would be the case.
It would eventually have come back or gotten a spiritual sequel just like Fallout was a spiritual sequel to Wasteland.
Now a lot of fans will only remember it for the zombie franchise it has become, more and more a pale shadow in both gameplay and content from the previous incarnations that set it on the map in the first place, just like so many other IPs.

 

[Wunderbar]

If its in Virginia, its probably the

inbred mutant west virginians?

 

[Black]

If its in Virginia, its probably the Super-Orcs fom Vault 89, not the REAL Super Mutants from OG Mariposa and shit, who actually matter.
Seriously, these East Coast Super Mutants are totally pointless. They didn't even have the dignity of weaving their plots around them, they're literally just huge angry chunks of murderbeef.

I don't even remember... Vault-Tec was doing an FEV experiment in Vault 89, right?

No, they weren't. That all comes from some bad fan fiction, not actual Fallout lore.

 

[Turjan]

If its in Virginia, its probably the Super-Orcs fom Vault 89, not the REAL Super Mutants from OG Mariposa and shit, who actually matter.
Seriously, these East Coast Super Mutants are totally pointless. They didn't even have the dignity of weaving their plots around them, they're literally just huge angry chunks of murderbeef.

I don't even remember... Vault-Tec was doing an FEV experiment in Vault 89, right?

No, they weren't. That all comes from some bad fan fiction, not actual Fallout lore.

Is there a difference nowadays?

 

[Makabb]

Fallout 76 has the chance to be actualy decent compared to Fallout 4 and 3.

Think about it, Bethesda will never make an old school rpg, instead we might get a faction based builder with reactive world where factions fight each other, something like mount and blade.

At worst it will be co-op 3-4 people, builder with going out and doing quests.

It cannot be worse than fallout 3 and 4.

 

[PanteraNera]

It cannot be worse than fallout 3 and 4.

Oh yes it can, have faith in Bethesda!

 

[Nas92]

It cannot be worse than fallout 3 and 4.

It can. Fallout 3 and 4 were moddable single player open world games. They weren't good Fallout games, they weren't good RPGs, but they delivered the core of the Bethesda hiking simulator experience. Fallout 76 will just be a clone of another game, with Fallout gimmicks tacked on it for more sales. It's made by the Battlecry team, whose previous job was making money for their corporate masters by creating a shitty pay2win online competitive shooter (which never got finished because everyone thought it looked shit).

 

[Turjan]

It cannot be worse than fallout 3 and 4.

It can. Fallout 3 and 4 were moddable single player open world games. They weren't good Fallout games, they weren't good RPGs, but they delivered the core of the Bethesda hiking simulator experience. Fallout 76 will just be a clone of another game, with Fallout gimmicks tacked on it for more sales. It's made by the Battlecry team, whose previous job was making money for their corporate masters by creating a shitty pay2win online competitive shooter (which never got finished because everyone thought it looked shit).

I'm sure I'm not the first to mention that it may as well be a pepped up Fallout Shelter.

 

[Squid]

inbred mutant west virginians?

These guys?

Spoiler

 

[Cael]

Fallout 76 has the chance to be actualy decent compared to Fallout 4 and 3.

Think about it, Bethesda will never make an old school rpg, instead we might get a faction based builder with reactive world where factions fight each other, something like mount and blade.

At worst it will be co-op 3-4 people, builder with going out and doing quests.

It cannot be worse than fallout 3 and 4.

Well, here is a question for you guys: If they come up with a Civ-like based on the FO setting, would you buy it?

 

[Comte]

So is this going to be a shitty borderlands like set in fallout? With Totally radical LEGENDARY enemies? And a million guns purchased via Creation Club?

 

[Kem0sabe]

An ode to Todd

 

[Havoc]

Think about it, Bethesda will never make an old school rpg, instead we might get a faction based builder with reactive world where factions fight each other, something like mount and blade.

You mean like Skyrim? The whole premise of the game was two factions fighting each other and it was a shit show. Same with Fallout 4 and the Institute.

 

[Squid]

So is this going to be a shitty borderlands like set in fallout? With Totally radical LEGENDARY enemies? And a million guns purchased via Creation Club?

I think Rage 2 might fit that description better based off what we know.

 

[DalekFlay]

Fallout 76 has the chance to be actualy decent compared to Fallout 4 and 3.

Think about it, Bethesda will never make an old school rpg, instead we might get a faction based builder with reactive world where factions fight each other, something like mount and blade.

At worst it will be co-op 3-4 people, builder with going out and doing quests.

It cannot be worse than fallout 3 and 4.

As flawed as FO3 and 4 are I don't play online games, so they're inherently better than a big fat zero that Fallout Rust would be. The shittiest pizza in the world is better than sushi if you don't eat sushi.

 

[Feyd Rautha]

An ode to Todd

they called Oblivion "hardcore"

 

[Mech]

 

[The Dutch Ghost]

Words fall a bit short other than "Fuck you Hines!"

Not really addressing what he tweeted, or useful, but truly from the heart.

 

[The Brazilian Slaughter]

Did Pete Hines just subtly imply that women are dumb?

Leeeeeeeeel

 

[AwesomeButton]

Did Pete Hines just subtly imply that women are dumb?

Leeeeeeeeel

That was just what I thought. Is this guy really capable of such a retarded tweet, or is this photoshopped?

 

[Bohr]

pete hines + too good to be true =

 

[Bladeract]

Games so easy even a woman can figure it out

Also funny to think it's no one's business what they do with their games. People giving feedback about games, what monsters, they should just play them no matter what, without complaint.