Fallout 4 Pre-Release Discussion [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Comte]

Todd Howards adventures collecting Ceramic for his hobo shelters toilet.

"I had this moment where I needed ceramic. And I asked 'what's ceramic?' Ok, coffee mugs have ceramic. Where I was in the game there was a drive-in theater and they had a gift shop. 'Oh I bet they have coffee mugs.' I see the coffee mugs in it and I run in and 'BAM!' this landmine trap kills me. Blows me up.

So I reload the game. I gotta be really careful this time and get the coffee mug. And for some reason I missed it again and it kills me again. So then I get a follower who's with me, and you can command them, and I said 'go in and get the coffee mug.' And the follower goes in.

BAM! The thing goes off. But it doesn't kill me. But it blows the coffee mug out of the gift shop and into the grass. So now I'm hunting through the grass for this coffee mug. And you could not script that. It was this total combat just about getting this coffee mug. You would never have a designer who would say 'I have this scenario with landmines and a coffee mug you need.' It was all in my head. But it always stuck with me afterwards. I had one of my favorite experiences trying to get a coffee mug."
-Todd Howard-

 

[Spectacle]

Just played the intro briefly as a female character, some npc come up to the husband referring to him as 'that's her, get her!'

If those are the husband's preferred pronouns you should respect it, shitlord.

 

[markec]

At *minimum* it will get at least get a 90. There is no way the hand picked Professional Journalism™ reviews they use will score less than that for a major AAA developer/publisher.

You are right, but a man can dream.

 

[Jaesun]

One day, Bethesda will *possibly* make a disaster like Colonial Marines, or Destiny, but that day is not today. The current Professional Gaming Journalists™ continue to worship the ground these developers walk on.

But then again, there isn't any ACTUAL mainstream Journalists that do any critical gaming reviews. It's all SLURP SLURP SLURP.

 

[Fairfax]

One day, Bethesda will *possibly* make a disaster like Colonial Marines, or Destiny, but that day is not today. The current Professional Gaming Journalists™ continue to worship the ground these developers walk on.

TESO already failed at first, but if you're talking about the core team (Bethesda Game Studios), it'll be many, many years from now, unfortunately. I mean, TES VI is already in pre-production, and that should take another 3-4 years. Then it's FO5, then TES VII, and so on. I don't see journos getting tired of that anytime soon, and I see Todd catering to their audience even further every step of the way.
The hype for TESVI will be huge, unlike anything they've had so far, considering the game will be released at least 7 years after Skyrim.

 

[Baron]

As the days tick by, and the release seems imminent, everything I read about Fallout 4 leaves me...

 

[Jaesun]

As long as they continue to add fresh new action that the moronic general console gaming public enjoys (adding dragons to Skyrim was completely brilliant, and that is why is sold MILLIONS!!!~1111111!!!), they will continue to be orally serviced by the Professional Gaming Journalist™ media. And continue to bring MILLIONS to the bank.

Even the absolute fucking RAPE of the Fallout setting is just pure fucking vomit inducing. But the general gaming public doesn't give a shit, they just want to PEW PEW AND WIN TEH GAEM and OMG PURTY GRAFFIX!!!!11!

Ugh.

 

[GuiltyofBeingTrite]

has this sick gun been posted?

 

[DeepOcean]

TESO already failed at first, but if you're talking about the core team (Bethesda Game Studios), it'll be many, many years from now, unfortunately. I mean, TES VI is already in pre-production, and that should take another 3-4 years. Then it's FO5, then TES VII, and so on. I don't see journos getting tired of that anytime soon, and I see Todd catering to their audience even further every step of the way.
The hype for TESVI will be huge, unlike anything they've had so far, considering the game will be released at least 7 years after Skyrim.

Hey, but think positively, Bethesda could allow Obsidian to do a spin off, imagine what Avellone and the New Vegas lead writer, Gonzales could do, right? Ohh wait...

 

[upwardlymobile]

Todd Howards adventures collecting Ceramic for his hobo shelters toilet.

you make ceramic items out of coffee mugs? what happened to clay? it's not like you can weld broken up coffee mugs together and get ceramic

todd is such a moron

 

[Daedalos]

Anybody thinkin' we gon' get a spin-off like New Vegas after Fallout 4? We had Vegas after 3, seems natural to let a talented studio do the "sequel" to Fo4

 

[FeelTheRads]

Just fuck off Faegalos.

 

[Fairfax]

Hey, but think positively, Bethesda could allow Obsidian to do a spin off, imagine what Avellone and the New Vegas lead writer, Gonzales could do, right? Ohh wait...

I was looking at the FNV credits on the Fallout wiki the other day. They lost the lead artist, audio director, lead programmer, most area designers, 3 of the 4 main writers (MCA, Gonzalez, Stout), multiple additional writers (including Ziets), 2 of the 3 character designers, and many others.
Obsidian is a shadow of its former self. At this point, I'd rather see them give it to Arkane, which I think is the natural choice:

Obsidian has 100 of its ~200 people working on Armored Warfare, which is still in beta, and every key member of the FNV team left in the company is working on the PoE expansion. They'll probably work on the sequel after that, which has been pretty much confirmed by everyone. They also got a pretty bad deal last time around and would definitely try to negotiate a better one now.

With Arkane it'll stay in-house, as they belong to ZeniMax, so they'd have full control over everything and no extra costs involved. Dishonored 2 is coming out in Q2 2016, which means it should be finished in the first quarter. Give them 18 months and you have Fallout: [Paris? lol] in late 2017.
I'm probably in a minority here, but I really liked the gameplay in Dark Messiah and Dishonored, and they'll probably fix TESVI combat like id helped with FO4's gunplay. I think Arkane could do a fine job with Fallout, much better than Bethesda, at least. Plus, who knows, MCA could collaborate with them from a distance as a freelancer.

 

[likaq]

Hey, but think positively, Bethesda could allow Obsidian to do a spin off, imagine what Avellone and the New Vegas lead writer, Gonzales could do, right? Ohh wait...

With this dialogue system:

?

Not much.

 

[Infinitron]

Unless it happens to be the secret project that they've been working on since Feb 2014, Obsidian isn't making a Fallout game.

Then again, considering how long it apparently takes Bethesda to release their games these days, they could start it two years from now and still be done before Elder Scrolls VI comes out. Heck, we could have had two more New Vegas sequels in the time it took them to release FO4.

 

[Goral]

has this sick gun been posted?

I'm afraid that Bethtards won't even notice the spoiler even though there is a huge red rectangular pointing to it.

 

[Daedalos]

Just fuck off Faegalos.

Why so serious, bro? Life hard on you? Don't fret and be depressed. Smile to the world, and it will smile back

 

[markec]

I can see Bethesda letting Arcane doing a spin off. I enjoyed Dishonored despite many of its faults, so if they get the job I would be cautiously optimistic.

 

[Bradylama]

The only way this will ever be playable is if there's a Kenshiro mod.

 

[GuiltyofBeingTrite]

Unless it happens to be the secret project that they've been working on since Feb 2014, Obsidian isn't making a Fallout game.

Then again, considering how long it apparently takes Bethesda to release their games these days, they could start it two years from now and still be done before Elder Scrolls VI comes out. Heck, we could have had two more New Vegas sequels in the time it took them to release FO4.

When did Obsidian start working on New Vegas, I know it was announced a decent amount of time after Fallout 3 was released?

 

[Infinitron]

When did Obsidian start working on New Vegas, I know it was announced a decent amount of time after Fallout 3 was released?

Beginning of 2009. It was announced in April 2009.

 

[StrongBelwas]

So, are the Railroad/Brotherhood/Minutemen factions at least mutually exclusive? The way the trailer and achievements went I had some vague hope that maybe there was a spot of Incline there, but nothing here seems to indicate one way or another.

With this dialogue system:


Not much.

If we want to be play the optimist, converting the dialogue cross into a Human Revolution-style honeycomb w/ synopsis of what you want to say might let the developer of any theoretical spin-off salvage it.

 

[Taxnomore]

So each time I will get XP, I will believe I just sold something on eBay ? Nice.

 

[markec]

With every Bethesda game since Morrowind I had some hope modders will fix it. It did come true only with Skyrim which did became playable with mods unlike Fallout 3 and Oblivion. Right off the bat both dialog system and perk window looks anything but mod friendly. Also I have a feeling Bethesda will try to again monetize mods so I have little hope for Fallout 4 to be fixed by modders.

 

[TheHeroOfTime]

Fallout 4 will receive 47 on Metacritic. Worst Bethesda game evar.

Oh, you lovely and innocent dreamers...

BTW Was the son-robot theory true? lel