Fallout 4 Pre-Announcement Bullshit Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[sgc_meltdown]

Wasteland 2 is already my Fallout 4

 

[Bruma Hobo]

Wasteland 2 is already my Fallout 3

Improved.

 

[crojipjip]

Anyone here interested in improving Fallout 3? If not I will go on to mod FOT

 

[Malpercio]

Anyone here interested in improving Fallout 3?

You may want to check Obsidian. The released a pretty big mod for F3 few years ago. And Bethesda didn't even pay them, so, it's like, totally free now!

 

[abnaxus]

While Fallout 3 was shit, I enjoyed the hell out of New Vegas. So if Bethesda makes Fallout 4 I'll skip that and wait for the inevitable Obsidian sequel.

First post after a year of lurking and already a beth bash and Obsidian praise..... you have a bright future ahead of you waiting in the Codex.

Word. I still don't understand how people think that Fallout 3 is horrible, while New Vegas is excellent. It has better writing, sure, but not much better. And everything else, that was oh so decline when fallout 3 came out, remains: Like the change to first person, it has pop-a-mole action, pop-a-mole graphics (whatever that means, I did see someone on the codex describe the graphics in skyrim as such though, so it probably also applies here) and pop-a-mole voice acting.

Mandatory:

I still find it amazing that Bethesda commissioned a Fallout game to Obsidian at all. Where did that even come from?

: Hey Pete, there is one thing about Fallout 3 that bothers me... how happened we succeeded on selling it to everyone but the Fallout fantard market base we were supposed to sell it in the first place?

: Simple, Todd, they hate everything which doesn't have some Black Isle alumni's name slapped over it.

: So what if we find some ex-Black Isle guys and repackage Fallout 3 slapping their names over it? Speaking of which, the new Fallout 3 fanbase will be happy to buy it a second time too.

: GJ Todd. *dialing*

: Will work for food!

: We've got our real Fallout back! With dialogues! Nevermind it's the exact same shooter as before...

: Bingo!

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

Is the Skyrim engine really that much better? Isn't it still Gamebryo? Fucking awful engine for FPS(tabber) style ARPGs.

Either the engine's a hair better or Bethesda's team got some of their retarded demons out with Oblivion and Fallout 3. A Bethesda-made Fallout 4 would still have a fuckawful story I don't doubt, but judging by how they've gone from Oblivion to Fallout 3 to Skyrim they seem to be inclining in the gameplay department.

Of course if you're Jaesun you still won't like it even though you like Mass Effect, which is linear and doesn't support mods. SHAME, JAESUN. SHAME.

 

[villain of the story]

I doubt it. They already have Dawnguard, TESO and Dishonored. Fallout 4 could overshadow the other releases.

HIGHLY unlikely. There are three major Skyrim DLC packs confirmed, and the first has only just been demo'ed, plus the reasons Sul noted.

Dishonored and TESO are made by other studios. DLCs don't require a full development team, they are just mods. So, Bethesda dev team is literally sitting around doing nothing if they aren't working on another game already. Now THAT is highly unlikely.

I'm disappointed fellow Codexers are so unaware about these stuff.

 

[Excidium]

villain of the story

They are talking about announcement, not development.

 

[villain of the story]

F4 on Skyrim engine?

More like Morrowind engine?

Huh? Was there actually a point in there?

Is the Skyrim engine really that much better? Isn't it still Gamebryo? Fucking awful engine for FPS(tabber) style ARPGs.

You mean like Civ IV?

Fucking this. Average intelligence and literacy of Codexers have REALLY dropped in the last few years. Engines don't make games. Design does.

 

[villain of the story]

While Fallout 3 was shit, I enjoyed the hell out of New Vegas. So if Bethesda makes Fallout 4 I'll skip that and wait for the inevitable Obsidian sequel.

First post after a year of lurking and already a beth bash and Obsidian praise..... you have a bright future ahead of you waiting in the Codex.

Word. I still don't understand how people think that Fallout 3 is horrible, while New Vegas is excellent. It has better writing, sure, but not much better. And everything else, that was oh so decline when fallout 3 came out, remains: Like the change to first person, it has pop-a-mole action, pop-a-mole graphics (whatever that means, I did see someone on the codex describe the graphics in skyrim as such though, so it probably also applies here) and pop-a-mole voice acting.

Writing is actually good. Writing in FO3 was a joke. Quest structures, branching and c&c are the best in any FO game. That includes FO1. It's a brilliant game delivered in an unfortunate medium but would otherwise not be delivered at all.

Also FNV > FO2. If it weren't for the FP popamole nature of the game and the anachronisms in the setting, it could contend even the original game.

 

[villain of the story]

villain of the story

They are talking about announcement, not development.

People don't usually announce stuff they haven't even started working on. Big players don't like maintaining a long wait time between announcements and eye candy.

At any rate, they have to be developing something otherwise they are just sitting around doing nothing.

 

[Shervin]

Also FNV > FO2. If it weren't for the FP popamole nature of the game and the anachronisms in the setting, it could contend even the original game.

Even Avellone himself slaps you in the face if you tell him NV can contend the original game or is better than Fallout 2 in any way.

 

[Excidium]

FNV has much better quests.

 

[Sul]

I doubt it. They already have Dawnguard, TESO and Dishonored. Fallout 4 could overshadow the other releases.

HIGHLY unlikely. There are three major Skyrim DLC packs confirmed, and the first has only just been demo'ed, plus the reasons Sul noted.

Dishonored and TESO are made by other studios. DLCs don't require a full development team, they are just mods. So, Bethesda dev team is literally sitting around doing nothing if they aren't working on another game already. Now THAT is highly unlikely.

I'm disappointed fellow Codexers are so unaware about these stuff.

No one said they aren't working in Fallout 4, it's just unlikely they will announce it because it could overshadow the other releases.

 

[villain of the story]

I see your point.

 

[Syril]

Bros, hold your breath for a moment

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[eric__s]

Hey, google translate this into Polish.

Eat my shit.

 

[Excidium]

Kurwa: x

 

[Turisas]

They probably just read that here and posted it as news.

 

[groke]

Fallout died with 1.

 

[Captain Shrek]

Wasteland 2 is already my Fallout 4

Improved.

Augmented.

Why you ask?

Wasteland.
Fallout.
Fallout2.
Wasteland 2.

Although I misght personally say Fallout 5 because I love New Vegas.

 

[Bruma Hobo]

Well, Wasteland 2 is already my Wasteland 4 then

 

[Captain Shrek]

Well, Wasteland 2 is already my Wasteland 4 then

 

[aris]

Writing is actually good. Writing in FO3 was a joke. Quest structures, branching and c&c are the best in any FO game. That includes FO1. It's a brilliant game delivered in an unfortunate medium but would otherwise not be delivered at all.

Also FNV > FO2. If it weren't for the FP popamole nature of the game and the anachronisms in the setting, it could contend even the original game.

I don't agree that writing in FO3 was a joke. It wasn't perfect to be sure, but I do think that it is the best output in terms of story that bethesda has ever done, considering that their other writing efforts are weak. I thought fallout 3 had some interesting investigation quests, which gave you the opurtunity to gain much more insight by sneaking around and hacking computer terminals, and where not everything were as it initally seemed. Among those, were a couple of Fed-EX quests, but so had NW, at least as many. I also thought the opening of fallout 3 was strong, with the most immershive character creation I've ever seen: Much better than the psychology test and the character-creation-o-matic machine that you go to, which conviniently stands around in the house of a doctor in a remote village.

That being said, I did think NW's writing was better, as I said earlier. Though not miles and miles better. As for Quest structure, not sure if I agree with you, the basic quest structures seem the same for both games. Branching? Maybe? There were certainly quests within fallout 3 with branching, and I don't remember those choices as less interesting than in fallout NW. Then again, I've only played a subset of the quests of both games once, and a long time age too, so I'm hardly an expert here. All those technical aspects of quests can be implemented to the eagles scream though, but it doesn't matter at the end of the day, if the quests are not interesting, fun and sucks you in. And it is in the latter where NW triumphs over fallout 3, C&C and everything else is just icing on the cake.

 

[theHiddenHand]

Not

Writing is actually good. Writing in FO3 was a joke. Quest structures, branching and c&c are the best in any FO game. That includes FO1. It's a brilliant game delivered in an unfortunate medium but would otherwise not be delivered at all.

Also FNV > FO2. If it weren't for the FP popamole nature of the game and the anachronisms in the setting, it could contend even the original game.

I don't agree that writing in FO3 was a joke. It wasn't perfect to be sure, but I do think that it is the best output in terms of story that bethesda has ever done, considering that their other writing efforts are weak. I thought fallout 3 had some interesting investigation quests, which gave you the opurtunity to gain much more insight by sneaking around and hacking computer terminals, and where not everything were as it initally seemed. Among those, were a couple of Fed-EX quests, but so had NW, at least as many. I also thought the opening of fallout 3 was strong, with the most immershive character creation I've ever seen: Much better than the psychology test and the character-creation-o-matic machine that you go to, which conviniently stands around in the house of a doctor in a remote village.

That being said, I did think NW's writing was better, as I said earlier. Though not miles and miles better. As for Quest structure, not sure if I agree with you. Branching? Maybe? There were certainly quests within fallout 3 with branching, and I don't remember those choices as less interesting than in fallout NW. Then again, I've only played a subset of the quests of both games once, and a long time age too, so I'm hardly an expert here. All those technical aspects of quests can be implemented to the eagles scream though, but it doesn't matter at the end of the day, if the quests are not interesting, fun and sucks you in. And it is in the latter where NW triumphs over fallout 3, C&C and everything else is just icing on the cake.

Not trying to be an asshole but the only quest that was branching I can remember was the wasteland survival guide quest, the quest with the russian dude was more boolean than anything.