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Atlus Etrian Odyssey Origins Collection

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Yuzo Koshiro slaps Etrian Odysseys' sound onto the awesome Yammy soundchip, sounds like ear sex....


Sounds amazing, but he's using a RX5 drum machine, too. I really like the gritty sounds the YM2612 puts out.
 

Kuruwin

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Put over hours on the first game and one thing I'm definitely missing is those auto walking floor pannels. At least it seemed like they didn't add them to these version and that's bummer because it's not exactly fun to constantly run down several floors.
 

Lyre Mors

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after they forgot to include Denuvo (lol) in the initial release, apparently now it's been patched in.
lol Atlus can't even manage to be their normal kind of bad at PC releases. It's like using alien technology for the first time for them.

I've never played any Etrian Odyssey games, but always really wanted to. Probably would have got this if it wasn't so goddamn outrageously priced
 
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after they forgot to include Denuvo (lol) in the initial release, apparently now it's been patched in.
lol Atlus can't even manage to be their normal kind of bad at PC releases. It's like using alien technology for the first time for them.

I've never played any Etrian Odyssey games, but always really wanted to. Probably would have got this if it wasn't so goddamn outrageously priced
Just emulate them brah
 

Kuruwin

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Unlike the original version, this has quick save that doesn't get deleted when loading it and that's already pretty nice upgrade over the original. It's kinda clunky to use the map feature on this one (switch) but the automapping does the biggest job for you and that's also great. Drawing everything yourself gets tedious after 1-2 of these games.

There's some other little improvements here and there that make for a smoother experience.

But yeah. I wouldn't recommend paying more than 15-20 euros/dollars for it.
 

Jermu

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drawing your own maps was the best thing about Etrian Odyssey

saving anywhere is decline

seems like they made at least EO1 harder floor 20
you need to kill every foe before trying boss without resting this would be very brutal without saving

luckily I got all EO games in ds&3ds
 

Nifft Batuff

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I prefer emulating the dual screen that you can map on two monitors. Is there an option for dual monitor in the remake?
 

Reinhardt

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went straight to third game, because i remember downloading and playing wrong version on emulator years ago.
 

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
Thinking about trying these, found this writeup on Steam, anyone can confirm it's accurate or just exaggeration? Especially the bit with the mandatory classes sounds really bad:

Etrian 3 is the only crawler that can at least SOMEWHAT be called a 'decent' dungeon crawler.

Etrian 1 and 2 were pretty terrible/poorly balanced games even when they released. And they aged even worse.
If that was not enough - the plot was an absolute disaster with 0 logic behind it.

The fun thing is that devs fixed most of this later with a 'story' version of the first 2 games.

HOWEVER atlus instead decided to transfer essentially the exact copy of the most terribly balanced versions of the game.

To be specific:
1) Etrian 1 - 2 MANDATORY(and by MANDATORY I literally mean you don't have this ♥♥♥♥ - you can just GTFO) classes you NEED developed if you want to complete game 100%. One of them NEEDS a certain skill at CERTAIN LEVEL(not max)... you don't? well, GTFO and respec at a loss of 5 levels. You don't have correct class? How about losing majority of your progress then for hardly any profit aside of correcting this?
Aside of 2 mandatory classes you are also HIGHLY recommended to use another 2... only 1 slot is SLIGHTLY debatable.

Beyond that the version you get is provided with the most nonsensical plot one could possibly come up with. One so void of any semblance of logic that it makes you question humanity.

If you want to have a good time - your party will likely consist of Medic, Protector, Landsknecht front row and Survivalist + Alchemist back row.
The somewhat debatable is Ronin instead of lands for bossing a bit faster but complete loss of AoE options.

Troubadour vs Alchemist - another debate but honestly alchemist is just way too convenient throughout the game even though troubadour is much better during bossing.

2) Etrian 2 - you didn't like the most imbalanced classes of Etrian 1? Devs didn't either, now they are PRETTY MUCH USELESS, ALL OF THEM.

How to make a good party? Skip getting the Medic, Protector, Landsknecht, Alchemist and Survivalist. Notice something funny? Yeah, that's EO1 party. Troubadour is also worse now, but not complete garbage at least.

What's left? 5 more classes + a bugged class. Yet again no real choice is given to you if you want a solid party.

All those previously meh classes(aside of ronin who was decent) are now OP as fk. Genius solution? Yep.
A few new classes added, the unlockable one being absolutely bugged in this version making it essentially unusable in a way that devs wanted you to play it.

Etrian 1/2 original games are among the worst dungeon crawlers the world has ever seen unless we count the fun map drawing of DS which is kinda an irritation on PC.

3) Etrian 3 - actually a game. It's a pretty solid crawler. Mechanics become more complex, classes are SLIGHTLY more balanced without as much 'forcing' you into one specific party setup.
 
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Thinking about trying these, found this writeup on Steam, anyone can confirm it's accurate or just exaggeration? Especially the bit with the mandatory classes sounds really bad
It's exaggerated, but not entirely wrong. The first game had some really fucked balancing, with Protector and especially Medic being very important thanks to their damage reduction buffs. They other stuff about some classes being weaker isn't wrong, but again, exaggerated. They're fully usable. The remakes had some rebalances, so you could play those instead, as long as you turn off the story mode shit. Would require emulation, but 3DS emulation should be easy these days, I imagine.
 

Zboj Lamignat

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Thinking about trying these, found this writeup on Steam, anyone can confirm it's accurate or just exaggeration? Especially the bit with the mandatory classes sounds really bad:

It's an exaggeration, but some classes (or rather: class skills) are so good that they do feel almost mandatory. It's kind of a running theme in the series tbh, but 1-2 are easily the worst here.

He ain't wrong in saying that 3 is the best, tho. And believe me: you won't stomach doing all three so just go with that one. It's much more refined, although not without flaws (dual-classing is a good idea, but horribly executed and sailing minigame is butt cancer-tier bad).

But honestly, the best course of action would be to emulate IV. People talk shit about it, but it easily has the most fun classes, best party building and improved combat, which is all that matters. I did not play the following ones, so don't know about those.
 
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Typically you can complete the main story with any shit build but if you want to do the optional superbosses and post-game dungeon floors then if you don't use one of the handful of specific builds and broken classes the developer expects you to use you're not getting anywhere.
 

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