Incline Disco Elysium - The Final Cut - a hardboiled cop show isometric RPG

[Harthwain]

Eh, some people either have no idea what they are talking about or are straight up lying about it. Doesn't mean the definition itself is wrong.

 

[TT1]

 

[Lyric Suite]

Ok, coomenist.

 

[Verylittlefishes]

Ok, coomenist.

Have you played the game already?

 

[Lyric Suite]

I ain't dishing out 40 bucks for this and i don't feel like pirating it either. I'll get it when it's like 50% off.

 

[Zombra]

UI Fixes.

Huh, I wonder if that includes fixing the "hide the HUD" functionality that people have assured me exists yet never worked. I'm still about 50/50 thinking that Kasparov was just trolling me when he said it was implemented, to steal my $40 and hope I put up a good Steam review anyway.

 

[Quillon]

 

[Lyric Suite]

Lost me at the piss stained, cum stained pants part.

I have a feeling playing this game is going to be like when i read Nabokov, a mixture of appreciation for the talent but a latent aversion for the author and his works.

 

[Butter]

Watching that video reminded me that the devs actually censored their own dialogue. Holy fuck that was stupid.

 

[Lyric Suite]

What did they censor?

Avoiding video to avoid spoilers.

 

[Verylittlefishes]

What did they censor?

Avoiding video to avoid spoilers.

The word faggot.

 

[Butter]

The word "faggot" is used repeatedly by a voiced character and they censor both the text and audio.

 

[Verylittlefishes]

The word "faggot" is used repeatedly by a voiced character and they censor both the text and audio.

Something about Twitch and bans.

But multiple fucks voiced by 12yo are cool I presume.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Ha i see, so they censored it because it was "sensitive" and not because it was vulgar.

Not that i care much for a game having to end up in a position to write stuff like faggot in it. Torment didn't need it, didn't it.

 

[Harthwain]

Torment didn't need it, didn't it.

Didn't Torment have made-up words that fulfilled basically the same functions as their real-life counterparts?

 

[Verylittlefishes]

Torment didn't need it, didn't it.

Didn't Torment have made-up words that fulfilled basically the same functions as their real-life counterparts?

These sensitive tolerant nurpgs are shit, you can't even sell Kim into slavery!!!

 

[Lyric Suite]

I find that hilarious. They want to be edgy and daring, but God forbid they offend Reddit lmao.

Torment didn't need it, didn't it.

Didn't Torment have made-up words that fulfilled basically the same functions as their real-life counterparts?

Yes but it's not the same thing. Likewise in Thief it's one thing to hear people call each other taffers, another to call each other fuckers or cunts like they do in the Witcher, something i found really jarring.

I guess i preferred when games were innocent escapism and didn't reflect the real world too much.

 

[Harthwain]

Torment didn't need it, didn't it.

Didn't Torment have made-up words that fulfilled basically the same functions as their real-life counterparts?

Yes but it's not the same thing. Likewise in Thief it's one thing to hear people call each other taffers, another to call each other fuckers or cunts like they do in the Witcher, something i found really jarring.

I guess i preferred when games were innocent escapism and didn't reflect the real world too much.

My position is to either use swear words, but not use them thoughtlessly (The Witcher and Prototype being good examples) or make do without them (which takes some measure of skill, because it's harder to pull off well and convey certain emotions). Making fake swear words is the worst, because to me it feels like a lousy sham. "It's not THAT swear word, since it's not written down in the exactly same manner, hence it's OK for us to write it!". Except everybody knows what word it is, so...

 

[Lyric Suite]

It's a fake fantasy world, i don't see the issue with using fake swear words.

Disco Elysium has a setting where actual swear words do have a place, but i guess even there it depends on how they are used, and why.

 

[Butter]

It depends how much effort has gone into the construction of a believable alternate lingo. When Battlestar Galactica has its characters speak normally except for using the word "frak" instead of fuck, that's laughable and distracting. Torment, on the other hand, draws you in with its peculiar linguistic mannerisms from the outset.

"Hey chief. You okay? You playing corpse or you putting blinds on the Dusties? I thought you were a deader for sure."

That's the very first line of the game, and I'm already willing to go along with all the made-up swear words the game can throw at me.

 

[Harthwain]

It's a fake fantasy world, i don't see the issue with using fake swear words.

Disco Elysium has a setting where actual swear words do have a place, but i guess even there it depends on how they are used, and why.

Using fake swear words is simply cheap, especially when it's so selective. I wouldn't mind them if it was a whole another language or a different culture, but most of the time it's not.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Sorry, i can't concur. Butter explained why. The world of Torment is rich in made up jargon. They aren't using fake swear words just to avoid using real ones. They are using them because it fits in the world they have build.

 

[Harthwain]

Oh, that's no problem. It's perfectly fine for people to not agree on something. It's all down to everybody's personal opinion after all. We're just sharing our points of view on the matter is all.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Must... remain... calm...

 

[Zombra]

Speaking as someone who has actually played the game, the use of language is fine and fitting for the setting. Anyone who is offended by the appearance of asterisks has way bigger problems than any they might project onto the developers.

In fact, I commonly wonder whether the censoring of just that one word is a joke by the devs. Did you fall for it?