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Diablo 2: Resurrected remaster

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hmmm. I noticed that you are retard so i just wanted to know. who ignores you. Congratz you are in top retard league. Imagine being that fucking retarded that even broseph ingores you.
Fine with me, not a single quality poster is on that list.
 

Faarbaute

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Its obvious that the design of these characters have been changed, intentionally, to reflect the ideals of 2021.
How can you act so stupid and obtuse about it.

HUR DUR penis no like.

Why should they have changed the design at all? Why change the soul of Diablo 2 to accomodate 2021?

Its Blizzard and or Vicarious Visions that made this about politics, beacause these are all ideologically motivated changes.
 

tritosine2k

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WASD is better for action games that require twitch controls, ARPGs, despite the name are mostly trials for build testing, there are people who ran bots on Diablo II, that is how uninvolved the combat on those games are, Diablo II is ultra easy and has no end game. Twitch movement maybe is useful on some games like Grim Dawn deeper shards where some bosses attacks can one shot you and you need to dodge three at the same time but even there, KMB will get you killed less frequently. Gamepad is only maybe good for casual play but I honestly dont see the point.
Don't knock WASD movement until you try it. You can move + target at the same time instead of relying on the same input to move and target.
Basically, as Perkel said, it controls like a twin-stick shooter.


^ I know I regret buying that pos
 

Perkel

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WASD is better for action games that require twitch controls, ARPGs, despite the name are mostly trials for build testing, there are people who ran bots on Diablo II, that is how uninvolved the combat on those games are.

The thing about it is not that decoupled movement and direct controls is more efficient well in some cases they are but overall mouse precision lead to better more accurate CC and so on. It is just better from gameplay perspective aka it fucking feels much better to play. Grim Dawn instantly feels better when i tried it with pad despite pretty lazy implementation. Imagine racing game where you click with mouse where car drives instead of directly controling your car. After trying decopled movement from targeting it is incredibly janky to go back to k+m.

As for action paart of arpg imho it is important. The reason why people play D2 is not that there are stats. If stats themselves would matter that much someone would make exel game instead. Hitting stuff is also as important for arpg as good system mechanics.
 

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Im not complaining about armor and colors but the character looking as a man. You can have any setting and have a attractive female character even in gothic horror. Case in point Diablo 1 and 2.

The problem is the pattern of censorship and uglification of art in the West, Amazon looking as a man is completely intentional.

It's weird how people attribute to uglification and censorship (this one especially; do you even know what censorship is?) what can easily be attributed to "maybe a hardened Amazonian in the Diablo world wouldn't look like a Playboy doll".

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It's weird how people attribute to uglification and censorship (this one especially; do you even know what censorship is?) what can easily be attributed to "maybe a hardened Amazonian in the Diablo world wouldn't look like a Playboy doll".

My english is not perfect but I was fairly confident that from my comment "The problem is the pattern of censorship and uglification of art in the West, Amazon looking as a man is completely intentional." its pretty obvious that "censorship and uglification of art in the West" part is aimed at the West in general and not for this game alone.

As mentioned in other threads, there is a pattern of censorship and uglification in Western media and Amazonian looking less like a "Playboy doll" but more like a transexual man in his 50s fits the pattern and yes its obviously intentionally made.

Both first and second Diablo game had female characters that were feminine, which in your mind means that they are "Playboy dolls", but its 2021 and feminine females in 2021 are problematic.
 
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No one would be saying "why did they change the design?" if the breast size of the Amazonian had been increased,
If it was a noticeable change? Yeah, I would.
What's wrong with making the characters look like how they looked previously in a so-called "remaster"? Why do they all have to look so different?
 

Perkel

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Blizzard shouldn't be given a dime ever again, out of pure principle for what they did with Reforged.

Hurr durr reforged is bad remaster thus d2r will be bad remaster. Ignores 2 other remasters which were done by them which are great.

Also warcraft 3 is shit, always was and always will be. If you bought remaster of it you ought to be fucked. Because retards are the to be fucked with.

If it was a noticeable change? Yeah, I would.
What's wrong with making the characters look like how they looked previously in a so-called "remaster"? Why do they all have to look so different?

They are not that different. That is the point. You are just fucking retarded. Only assasin really changed a bit due to race swap but it was always weebo trap so now weebos can finally play chink they always wanted.
 

Faarbaute

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Why should they have changed the design at all?

Why shouldn't they? Just because you don't like it?
No one would be saying "why did they change the design?" if the breast size of the Amazonian had been increased, so your argument is retarded and moot to begin with.
My liking it or not has nothing to do with the issue. They did change the design to conform with 2021 ideals.
 

Cruel Beans

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This is great not just because this edit makes Assassin more faithful to the original, she is also much more visually striking overall. Asian lady to the left looks like an NPC character, one on the right could be the leading lady of her own game. The fact we are at the point we need to explain to people why character design is so important is kind of mind boogling.
 
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Also warcraft 3 is shit, always was and always will be
I'm sorry that you have missed the bustling spectacle that was the custom maps scene of WC3. I can tolerate someone saying the campaigns were shit, that the strategic elements were subpar or unsatisfactory, that the tone was far too distanced from Warcraft 2, but if there ever was a way to discern a braindead basketball american in this lifetime, it's by them shitting on the game altogether, a sentiment deep-seated in their ignorance of just how influential and amazing the custom content was.
 
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Perkel

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Rememeber how i talked about loverslab 4channer degenerates? kids jacking off to anime tities ? I was being serious. I present you Malamert Fucking weeb^3. I fucking smell those weebs from a mile. Filthy degenerates.

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And if you check history he is fucking weebest of them all constantly fapping to anime tities.
 

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Are they going to change the gameplay actually? One of the reasons I don't like Diablo 2 aside from the lack of endgame content is how ridiculous the powercreep has become over the patches. It's very easy to speedrun through the game with the buffs to the classes + knowing a few runewords. Everything together gives me a feeling of pointlessness about the entire game.
 

Perkel

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Also Reinhart locked his profile for view. Geee i wonder why. You know hwat is the mmost funny about them ? They are the one who popularized trannies garbage aside from other fucked up shit. They call every woman now tranny because they are already fapping to some trannies in anime and they want to look normal. Almost all trannies are fucking weeb coomers.


Are they going to change the gameplay actually? One of the reasons I don't like Diablo 2 aside from the lack of endgame content is how ridiculous the powercreep has become over the patches. It's very easy to speedrun through the game with the buffs to the classes + knowing a few runewords.

No. It is 1:1 gameplay aside from small QOL. People would crucify them if they would change it. If you didn't like original gameplay you won't like this one.
 
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From a visual standpoint the actual game part looks good, and what Vicarious Visions did here makes all of Bizzard's talk when they were first showing off Diablo 3 about how it does actually look like the previous games all the funnier.

The talk about them making the Paladin black is stupid given he was black before. I can kind of get missing this in the in-game model, but he's very clearly a black guy in the art for the magazine ad.

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Amazon has a man face now and I'm not sure how anyone could say she looks like she did in the original game.

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The characters faces do however all look more generic now, and almost all of them seem to have been aged up around 15 years.

The way they talked about approaching the game with a controller seems a little weird when games built around the controller like Dragons Dogma have shown you can very easily let the player select precisely where they want the action to hit on the ground. I'd think that would be even easier to do in top down than that games third person view. Instead they seem to be doing things the way Diablo 3 on consoles did thing, which worked, but there's also been stuff like Lost Ark and even that Diablo iOS game that seem to do that better.
 

Zurat-Yarkuch

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Can't we all just agree that whatever the reasons the women do look hideous.

And the barbarian. Also the Druid looks like a hobo. The Paladin almost looks like a racial caricature with how big his lips are.

The necromancer looks good though.
 

Sigourn

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Also Reinhart locked his profile for view. Geee i wonder why. You know hwat is the mmost funny about them ? They are the one who popularized trannies garbage aside from other fucked up shit. They call every woman now tranny because they are already fapping to some trannies in anime and they want to look normal. Almost all trannies are fucking weeb coomers.

Preach, brother. Else why would most transgenders use anime profile pictures? That shit is poisoning people's minds: at the inability to bang the anime girl, they have decided to become the (poor imitation of) anime girl.

My liking it or not has nothing to do with the issue. They did change the design to conform with 2021 ideals.

Sorry, but that's your opinion based on "character ugly, fucking SJWs ruining muh games".
It's pretty much the current punching game in videogames. If anything is changed in a way that reduces sex appeal, then surely there must be an agenda going on! And yet, people tend to change their mind on things they have worked on in the past, because times change and people change too. I dislike games I used to think were great, and I enjoy games I used to think were shit. Likewise, back then the devs must have thought "this Amazon chick is banging!", and now they may have thought "this character looks retarded".

In the future, we will end with every character in videogames looking like an anime girl because that's all gamers seem to care about. And like those gacha games, the gameplay will be shit but since you can coom to the games, all's fine.
 

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