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Barbarian

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Is it true that half-elves and half-orcs are now gone because "muh rayscism"? And that orcs are now a playable race and removed from the monster manual.

Saw some rants about it on my twitter feed lol.
 

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Is it true that half-elves and half-orcs are now gone because "muh rayscism"? And that orcs are now a playable race and removed from the monster manual.

Saw some rants about it on my twitter feed lol.
Yes, half-races got axed in favor of the full-blooded races SPECIES.

Pathfinder Revised addressed the issue by making half-(whatever) into a versatile heritage, which is a template you can slap onto your character to give you access to more feats. This means you can apply being a tiefling, a half-dragon, a half-elf, a dhampir, a changeling, an elemental creature, a furry or a duplicate from the mirror dimension and apply it to any of the main races ANCESTRIES, so you can have tiefling gnomes, elves and minotaurs that are all mechanically distinct from one another.

This also means that you can make a half-elf orc and a half-orc elf, which are not the same thing. And yes, you can make half-orc orcs as well.
 

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Is it true that half-elves and half-orcs are now gone because "muh rayscism"? And that orcs are now a playable race and removed from the monster manual.

Saw some rants about it on my twitter feed lol.
Yes.

But also no because they decided that Eberron will have half elves with a dumb name.
 

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I still get confused by woke logic.

In real world terms I guess people like Obama being called "bi-racial" is now a no-no. And off course ye olde fantasy trope of Aragorn marrying Arwen and having a bunch of very long-lived pointy eared gondorian nobles is gone as well.

What is their lore on human + elf couples now then? They can't have kids anymore? Ditto for orc rape babies.
 

Raghar

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Orks and Goblins have green skin because of high concentration of biliverdin. Theirs kidneys on purpose avoid metabolization when concentration in blood isn't sufficiently high. As a consequence if someone eats them, and doesn't have sufficiently durable kidneys, he suffers kidneys failure from too fast metabolization of biliverdin. It also kills results of crossbreeding between green skins and most other species.

Genetic diseases caused by incompatible genes from TWO different species are another reason why intelligent species have harsh laws against crossbreeding.
 

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I think Hasbro is going crazy.

"Celebrating its 50th anniversary in 2024, Dungeons & Dragons has captivated fans across generations and become a cultural phenomenon. As part of Hasbro’s year-long celebration of this milestone, Games Global will harness The World’s Greatest Roleplaying Game to create an immersive, high-engagement slot experience, giving operators a chance to tap into the global fanbase."
https://igamingbusiness.com/company-news/games-global-unveils-exciting-partnership-with-hasbro/
 

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Is it true that half-elves and half-orcs are now gone because "muh rayscism"? And that orcs are now a playable race and removed from the monster manual.

Saw some rants about it on my twitter feed lol.
What even is the point of making Orcs a playable race. What is the point? Do people just want to play an ugly corrupted creature?
 

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Is it true that half-elves and half-orcs are now gone because "muh rayscism"? And that orcs are now a playable race and removed from the monster manual.

Saw some rants about it on my twitter feed lol.
What even is the point of making Orcs a playable race. What is the point? Do people just want to play an ugly corrupted creature?

They are an avatar race for Kangz(although you can literally play a black human).

I assume this whole controversy with WOTC doing away with "races" is actually because of all the Orc=Negroes memes. The "Daily Gondor" memes were particularly popular and widely shared.
 

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Online gambling is such an easy cashgrab for any franchise. I've worked in the industry.
Online gambling & crypto (2 industries I've also worked in) are dominated by Africans & Indians on the consumer side, and while these populations can donate $5 to your totally legit casino, or $10 to your totally legit cryptocurrency, they are 2 poor 2 buy a $60-70 video game. If AAA gaming wants to tap the shitskin market, they simply have to launch 1000 shittiest games imaginable per annum, and put 90% of the budget into AI generated press releases & reviews. It's a winning formula.
 

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I still get confused by woke logic.

In real world terms I guess people like Obama being called "bi-racial" is now a no-no. And off course ye olde fantasy trope of Aragorn marrying Arwen and having a bunch of very long-lived pointy eared gondorian nobles is gone as well.

What is their lore on human + elf couples now then? They can't have kids anymore? Ditto for orc rape babies.
Miscegenation still exists, but you just roleplay it. You pick one of your parents' racess SPECIES and act like your other parent is of that race SPECIES. There is no mechanical bonus when it comes to this.

So yes, you can now roleplay to be part of another race SPECIES but instead of actually being part of that group you're just pretending to be one. So you went from Tanis Half-Elven to Elizabeth Warren.

I assume this whole controversy with WOTC doing away with "races" is actually because of all the Orc=Negroes memes.
Funny thing is that in Pathfinder Revised you can play an orc. In this edition all races SPECIES get either two bonues to their attributes or three bonuses and one negative modifier (if you get three the third bonus is not fixed, and you can use it to cancel your negative modifier). The negative one is what you'd expect from that race: dwarves get -cha because they're grumpy, elves get -con because they're frail and willowy, goblins get -wis because they think arson is awesome, gnomes and halflings get -str because they're manlets, leshy get -int because they can be literal melonheads (they're plant people that somehow got popular in Pathfinder), and so on. Humans of course get two bonues with no negatives because of human versatility, and orcs get two bonuses with no negatives because doing so would be racist. You'd think that orcs would get +str and +con, so what would the negative one be?

Dex? So you're saying that orcs are lumbering brutes.
Int? So you're saying orcs are stupid.
Wis? So you're saying orcs have no sense of self preservation.
Cha? So you're saying that orcs are stupid.

And because orcs = black people doing any of these things would have you commit a racism which is grounds for a hate mob to burn your house down. As such, orcs have the same stats choices as humans do. Except orcs get more hit points, speak both Common and orcish on top of any other languages they might learn, and they get darkvision. While humans get... a free choice of language on top of Common. Bonus feat? Sure, humans can choose either an extra skill or a free bonus feat at level 1, but orcs get a choice from a list where each choice gives you two feats or feat-level power improvements.
 

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I wonder what the nigger lovers do if an orc fights with an actual in-universe nigger. Which one is more black under such circumstances?
 

Raghar

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For them, the darker skin, the more rights. Obviously Green isn't sufficiently black.
 

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I wonder what the nigger lovers do if an orc fights with an actual in-universe nigger. Which one is more black under such circumstances?
They wouldn't fight, they'd just sit down and talk about their feelings.

But not in the "clever roleplaying instead of combat" kind of way, I'm talking about the "we're playing D&D instead of a more social focussed RPG because learning a new system is scary" kind of way.
 

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What is their lore on human + elf couples now then? They can't have kids anymore? Ditto for orc rape babies.
As said, no more crossbreeding. Except yes, but it's overcomplicating things for no reason. Didn't one of the latest adventures set in a circus had a clown called THACO who existed to poke fun at the older editions of DnD?

Dex? So you're saying that orcs are lumbering brutes.
Int? So you're saying orcs are stupid.
Wis? So you're saying orcs have no sense of self preservation.
Cha? So you're saying that orcs are stupid.
Which is all true. What if an orc and a bl-
I wonder what the nigger lovers do if an orc fights with an actual in-universe nigger. Which one is more black under such circumstances?
Oh, ninjaed.
What if the orc is female? Or the nigger is female? Or both? Who has more rights?
What happened with the smarter and more civilized Grey Orcs?
 

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