Colony Ship Early Access Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Iluvcheezcake]

I wonder what kind of attacks the jellyfish will be capable of doing. Or maybe there will be different types of them that have varying attacks.

Energy damage when you get too close plus brainwave interference.

Damn Commissar, now you ruined it.

 

[cb.spike]

Damn Commissar, now you ruined it.

You should have know better since Vince is no strange to giving answer to this type of question. The best example being answer to: "Is the ship going to land?"

 

[Elhoim]

The squatter fight is so freaking intense. Just want to show it off, so you can see how excited I get whenever I do this fight:

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Excuse the music, I was listening to Ravenloft.

Isn't it awesome?! It's one of my two favorite encounters - the other one is the frog encounter that has: three bullfrogs + two spitters + one psyker. Like it a bunch, really challenging. I always spend a lot of time preparing before doing it.

Give it a try in the next update, it will be a bit more challenging. I noticed that the rolls were 5 hit, 10 graze. It turns out there was an issue which made graze much lower than it should have been, so you'll get a couple more grazes. Plus gunfighter increases graze damage. Also, the shotgun guy had skills in rifle :facepalm:

 

[Pladio]

So, for those interested.
Here are the new level graphs, based on the below:

Cum XP Requirement Lvl
0 1
40 2
120 3
360 4
760 5
1400 6
2440 7
4080 8
6720 9
10960 10

 

[Infinitron]

https://steamcommunity.com/games/648410/announcements/detail/3065240830440451447

Update notes for May 12, 2021

Party Management:

- Click on the party icon to the left of the inventory icon to open the Party Management screen
- Set designated specialists to handle skill checks when clicking on objects (to avoid switching characters manually)
- Heal your characters with medkits (the amount healed is modified by your biotech skill)
- Set auto-heal after combat (using available medkits).
- Set auto-reload weapons after combat (starting a fight with an empty gun is a thing of the past now)

Improvements

- You can now give implants to your party members based on their preferences
- Added more party banter in the Armory and Hydroponics
- Added new interactions when exploring Hydroponics
- Added an option to steal a badge from the Regulators HQ
- Added a sneaking opportunity in Camp Reid in Hydroponics
- Added some loot in Zeke's backroom, plus a different way in
- Added two extra stashes in the Pit
- You can now train party members (for now the same trainers as before, will consider adding more based on the feedback)
- Can't see beyond the vault door in the Armory before you open it (limited 'fog of war')
- You can now use Streetwise to get a better reward from Abe
- You can now use Persuasion to get a reward for Zeke
- You can now squeeze some money from Braxton and Jonas for helping them
- You can now ask Sarah for a reward because helping someone for free doesn't sit well with some players

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Changes:

General

- Improved traveling in Hydroponics
- Added check value to doors and containers.
- Tweaked Explorer reputation
- Sarah's price for healing is tied to how badly you're wounded

Items

- Cloaking field base thermal detection resistance is 10 (from 25)
- Cloaking field base detection chance is 35 (from 25)
- Thermal vision is now properly reduced by thermal detection resistance
- Distortion Field evasion is 30 (from 35). Energy damage is 1-3 (from 2-4)
- Super Soldier stim: removed evasion bonus, AP increased to 5, reaction increased to 15
- Smoke Grenades' (low and mid) ranged penalty is 50/75 (from 60/80)
- Bulldog II is a bit harder to get, but it's a bit more powerful
- Added +1 damage to shotguns
- Reduced melee damage by 1
- Tweaked armor stats
- Tweaked the prices of several items.
- Items now sell for 10% of the price.

Enemies

- Starfish now recovers 10 HP when draining
- Starfish DR is now 10/8/6 (from 6/4/3)
- Tweaked enemies' equipment: they have more weapon variety and extra thermal vision.

Feats

- Changed Faythe's Assassin feat. Bladed THC +10, CS Chance +5, Penetration +10, Takedown +15
- Changed Faythe's Thief feat. Noise -1 and stealth skills' increase
- Gunfighter: added "Grazes do +2 damage"
- Removed Master Trader feat and refunded 1 feat point to characters that had it

System

- Increased weight of misses on defense xp distribution.
- Slightly reduced skill gain from attack and defense XP
- Improved AI attack selection, especially for shotguns when the enemy is engaged in close combat

Fixes

- Fixed a door in the Armory being usable in stealth but not in combat.
- Power Vest properly reduces initiative instead of increasing it
- Fixed issues with the Armory's elevator with a party member selected
- Fixed scav stealth dialogue coming up twice if you clicked repeatedly when interacting with it
- Removed infinite attack XP exploit on turret
- Fixed the character name text field caret bug
- Missed frog attacks now can trigger counter-attacks, reported properly in the textbox
- Fixed some cases when grenades could be thrown through the floor (from the first floor to the second)
- Fixed T-pose animations happening in some rare cases
- Starfish sounds are now affected by volume controls properly
- Fixed Swing attack becoming unusable after spending AP on other combat actions
- Fixed doors incorrectly executing opening/closing scripts on game start
- Gadgets don't stay active after ending/exiting stealth anymore
- Fixed incorrect combat rolls when attacking turrets
- Fixed shots sometimes missing starfish if it's displaced after the 'hug'
- Fixed graze being reduced more than intended when uncapped THC was lower than 5
- Fixed unreplaced tags in energy shield bullet miss message
- Fixed pressing R when grenade is selected replacing hand slot weapon with grenade
- Fixed incorrect items being sold when CC has 0 credits left
- Fixed Caleb's dialogue issues
- Fixed missing sounds on armory doors
- Fixed weapon hand resetting to 0 after spending last grenade in the belt

 

[Marat]

Heal your characters with medkits (the amount healed is modified by your biotech skill)

Will this give Biotech xp? Vault Dweller

 

[Vault Dweller]

No.

 

[Pink Eye]

Yooo! There's a new dialogue thingy! You can now ask Braxton why he wants you join up on his efforts! Woo! Check it out bros! I think this is so awesome, it adds more to Braxton's character. I like Braxton!

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Consider me in your employment, captain!

 

[lukaszek]

Reduced melee damage by 1

daggers will be even harder...

 

[Pladio]

Reduced melee damage by 1

daggers will be even harder...

Melee builds were seen as overpowered by most people.

 

[Marat]

Blunt seems stronger than Bladed for some reason.

 

[lukaszek]

Reduced melee damage by 1

daggers will be even harder...

Melee builds were seen as overpowered by most people.

i bet it was about 2h hammer builds?
[retaliation] graze from dagger doesnt cut through armor of most enemies

 

[Vault Dweller]

I'd suggest using aimed attacks with daggers, same as in AoD.

 

[Pink Eye]

Daggers ain't weak. Had Faythe slice people left and right with a knife. Power Attacks are pretty good - when they land.

 

[lukaszek]

I'd suggest using aimed attacks with daggers, same as in AoD.

but retaliations arent aimed, hence dealing no dmg
you also got flurry special that got same issue.

melee endless retaliations are important and due to current mechanics daggers got it worst. Even if you are dead set on using one you should disable its retaliation and hold in 2nd slot machete if possible

 

[Pladio]

but retaliations arent aimed, hence dealing no dmg
you also got flurry special that got same issue.

melee endless retaliations are important and due to current mechanics daggers got it worst. Even if you are dead set on using one you should disable its retaliation and hold in 2nd slot machete if possible

Try a second wind build maybe instead. Of a reaction build?

 

[lukaszek]

Try a second wind build maybe instead. Of a reaction build?

but reactions deal in total more dmg than your main phase. Also as I said you can use bladed weapon that isnt dagger for reactions

also why second wind on daggers and not swords for example? Same AP, penetration isnt that important

 

[Pladio]

but reactions deal in total more dmg than your main phase. Also as I said you can use bladed weapon that isnt dagger for reactions

also why second wind on daggers and not swords for example? Same AP, penetration isnt that important

Isn't the lack of going through armour the first complaint you had?

 

[lukaszek]

but reactions deal in total more dmg than your main phase. Also as I said you can use bladed weapon that isnt dagger for reactions

also why second wind on daggers and not swords for example? Same AP, penetration isnt that important

Isn't the lack of going through armour the first complaint you had?

yes? curent system favors dmg over penetration.
Its all connected since in the end you want to maximize dmg output no?

 

[Pladio]

Yes, so if you build penetration with second wind and other killing type feats, you can become a killing machine on your turn rather than rely on reactions.
Reactions work well with reaction builds, but they're not the only builds out there.

I have played the game 5 or 6 times through now and with different build types. I didn't even realise a reaction build was useful until I saw it in the forums.

 

[lukaszek]

Yes, so if you build penetration with second wind and other killing type feats, you can become a killing machine on your turn rather than rely on reactions.

but how are daggers better in such build? Over swords for example

 

[Pink Eye]

What was your reaction build? If you don't mind sharing. I want to try it.

 

[Pladio]

Yes, so if you build penetration with second wind and other killing type feats, you can become a killing machine on your turn rather than rely on reactions.

but how are daggers better in such build? Over swords for example

It depends on the enemy DR to be honest. In low DR environments, then swords would be much better. In high DR environments, daggers/kinves.
In my knife build I was just carrying both a knife and a sword and used the right one for the right situation.

As an example.
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With DR2 & Weapon damage 10

Sword: no penetration -> Damage 8 =(10 -2)
Sword: 30% (aimed torso) -> Damage 9 =(10-(2*0.7))

Knife: 20% penetration -> Damage 8 =(10 - (2*0.8)) (I think as not sure how rounding works)
Knife: 50% (aimed torso) -> Damage 9 =(10 - (2*0.5))
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With DR8 & Weapon damage 10

no penetration -> Damage 2 = (10 - 8)
Sword: 30% (aimed torso) -> Damage 4 =(10-(8*0.7))

Knife: 20% penetration -> Damage 4 = (10 - (8*0.8)) (I think as not sure how rounding works)
Knife: 50% (aimed torso) -> Damage 6 =(10 - (8*0.5))

So overall, it depends on what you want to do and the fights you take.

 

[Pladio]

What was your reaction build? If you don't mind sharing. I want to try it.

Hmm, my build was pre-patch so might not work as well anymore but here it is:
6/4/10/10/6/4

Tagged SMG, Evasion.
Feats: Dodge This, Lone Wolf, Gunfighter, Artful Dodger

 

[lukaszek]

torso got so much more higher dr that extra penetration doesnt cut it.

I think its only worth discussing really aimed attacks at head, since thats where DR is lowest.

Also your comparison assumes that sword and knife deal same dmg - they dont.
knives get 20% dr penetration in place of 2 flat dmg. To make them even you must attack enemy/body part with 10 dr