It wouldn't be a commercial failure, just not enough to continue. For us the sales revenue isn't a reward but an operating budget for the next 5-6 years. And the team is bigger than three: lead designer/writer, designer/artist, programmer, animator, 3D artist, and 2D artist. Plus several contractors, mostly 3D art and composer.
Correct. I don't have time to go indepth right now, but one day I'll write that article and show the full breakdown.
Disclaimer: I am not VD. But I note that VD tends to show some distaste for these types of questions (or at least it seems so to me). Whether it is because he thinks it is charity and is too proud to accept it, or just such a stone hard capitalist that he believes ITS must sink or swim on its own strengths and the consumer must look only to their best interests, or another reason entirely I cannot say.
What about a kickstarter for the next game, wouldn't that take away some of the pressure?
Epic starts taking their due after you pass the 1 mill mark, so it hasn't happened yet.
An indie studio can count on getting 50k from a kickstarter nowadays. It's worth the effort for an eastern solo dev, not for a western company.
I think what is being discussed/suggested is more along the lines of "Ok, so 30 Euro (or less for the early adopters) per person is maybe not sustainable. But what if you used kickstarter/patreon/whatever to get more money from the most dedicated consumers to supplement that 30 euro per person?". There's clearly an amount of people willing to pay more money based on the fairly frequent post like "I bought the game 4 times". I guess the real question is there's enough of them, and if it is something ITS wants to do (since you typically have to spend some money/time/effort on things that are not the core product to extract extra money this way).
It's all the same now.
The problem with Kickstarter is that it doesn't fund anything. It gives you a bit of money, which in most cases isn't enough to hire one person for a full development cycle. Hibernaculum got under 100k, partly due to great physical rewards. I wouldn't be surprised if the rewards alone would cost them 50k. Factor in the KS cut and taxes and what's left?
Our deal is different (more beneficial to us, but we pay from day one).
We are not out of money and the taxes are very reasonable. The question here is can we sell enough to pay for the next game not can we cover the current expenses and then some.
The one I saw was an In-and-Out Burger. Here's the address: 3001 Mission College Blvd, Santa Clara, CA 95054.
I see. How about Patreon then, would that be a better alternative? Maybe to pad the economics a bit, offer a few perks, like special discord, dev video logs or something? Seems to be working out for the Call of Saregnar dev.
Have you revealed anything about this yet? Care to?
My guess: because this is pathetic.
:I'm getting too old for this shit:
Back in 2019:
Well, good luck then, I guess.
You don't need a discord(which they already have and are pretty active there) or make video logs to set up a Patreon page. You just need to post updates on progress from time to time(actually not even that, although that wouldn't help them getting more or keeping their patrons), the same way they already do on steam.
Did you fall for the crytpo meme?
THIS coupled with RETARDEDLY high costs of production, the West is the worst place for any indie game dev team to be, except for Congo or Yemen. Simple Mathematics and Cold Reality. Game Dev is Business as well, and there is no business sense to make your game in the West. West is dying
Dude! this is what I'm talking about. 3k $ salary?! It's fucking high middle class in Eastern Europe. And with better standard of living for the same money
Are you seriously asking why educated upper-middle class americans/europeans don't want to live in Bulgaria or Romania? Hell, the cost of living in Uzbekistan is even lower, just keep moving east!Dude! this is what I'm talking about. 3k $ salary?! It's fucking high middle class in Eastern Europe. And with better standard of living for the same money
Why there aren't bunch of Western funded studios in Bulgaria, Serbia, Croatia, Moldavia, Romania etc.. boggles my mind
Agreed. Being raped and killed at every corner in big cities is something You just CAN'T experience in Eastern European cities. And it's important part of being stuck-up midwit middle class Western highly educated urban retard who makes video gamesAre you seriously asking why educated upper-middle class americans/europeans don't want to live in Bulgaria or Romania? Hell, the cost of living in Uzbekistan is even lower, just keep moving east!Dude! this is what I'm talking about. 3k $ salary?! It's fucking high middle class in Eastern Europe. And with better standard of living for the same money
Why there aren't bunch of Western funded studios in Bulgaria, Serbia, Croatia, Moldavia, Romania etc.. boggles my mind
