From Software Bloodborne. Discuss or die!

[D_X]

tough "mini boss".

Nah, that mini boss easy as fuck, should be done asap for goodies.

 

[Silva]

Are we talking about the same boss, D_X ?

Spoiler

the Shark Brothers?

Because I found them hard as nails.

 

[D_X]

Are we talking about the same boss, D_X ?

Spoiler

the Shark Brothers?

Because I found them hard as nails.

I was just trolling, bro

 

[Skinwalker]

Skinwalker , since you got the DLC, I suggest you be on the lookout for weapons related to your build. For dex, the Saif and Maria's blades (Rakuyo?) are excellent, though the later is found by beating a tough "mini boss".

But the real show stealer is the Pizza Cutter.

Thanks, there's a heavy lack of skill weapons in the game (so far, I've only seen Blades of Mercy, and I haven't even gotten to that part yet in my redone playthrough). I suspect by the time I get to the DLC skill weapons, it will be too late (I probably won't be doing NG+ any time soon), but still good to know.

 

[Machocruz]

I love how uninformed tards don't consider Bloodborne horror. Despite the central fucking conceit, subject matter, tone, atmosphere and influences being exactly of horror genre.

"But it's not scary" Yeah, then since by my equally subjective standard, Dead Space, RE4, Silent Hill 2, Hellraiser, Dawn of the Dead, Frankenstein aren't scary, they're not horror either amirite? And historically, being scary was never the one or primary intention of all horror works. A creator can also seek to elicit disgust, dread, discomfort, shock, tension, suspense, etc.

"It's an action game/you're not vulnerable" I'll put any amount of money on the average amount of player deaths far exceeding all other "actual" horror games. But no, you're not as vulnerable as one-man-army Leon with a rocket launcher, sniper rifle, magnum, grenades, and German suplexes in his briefcase, who only died maybe a total of 12 times in my playthrough. Dead Space is an avoidance simulator, got it.

"It's more horror themed than akshul horror!" Horror is a theme . Wtf is actual horror, these are fictional works, it's not really happening my guy. Mechanically, you're doing things in those "real" horror games that you do in other genres, whether it's fight, flee, hide, avoid. The only difference is the theme, i.e. the trappings, subject matter, atmosphere. Which again, BB has in spades.

 

[Skinwalker]

Bloodporn has a very strong horror aesthetic/vibe from the first moments of the game, to the point where I actually got a tension headache about 15 minutes in and had to stop playing when I first tried it a few years ago.

After you've played it for a while and gotten into the groove of defeating enemies, you stop noticing it, until you encounter a particularly lovecraftian monster all of a sudden.

 

[MajorMace]

I love how uninformed tards don't consider Bloodborne horror. Despite the central fucking conceit, subject matter, tone, atmosphere and influences being exactly of horror genre.

"But it's not scary" Yeah, then since by my equally subjective standard, Dead Space, RE4, Silent Hill 2, Hellraiser, Dawn of the Dead, Frankenstein aren't scary, they're not horror either amirite? And historically, being scary was never the one or primary intention of all horror works. A creator can also seek to elicit disgust, dread, discomfort, shock, tension, suspense, etc.

"It's an action game/you're not vulnerable" I'll put any amount of money on the average amount of player deaths far exceeding all other "actual" horror games. But no, you're not as vulnerable as one-man-army Leon with a rocket launcher, sniper rifle, magnum, grenades, and German suplexes in his briefcase, who only died maybe a total of 12 times in my playthrough. Dead Space is an avoidance simulator, got it.

"It's more horror themed than akshul horror!" Horror is a theme . Wtf is actual horror, these are fictional works, it's not really happening my guy. Mechanically, you're doing things in those "real" horror games that you do in other genres, whether it's fight, flee, hide, avoid. The only difference is the theme, i.e. the trappings, subject matter, atmosphere. Which again, BB has in spades.

Wow you thought a lot about that.
Also I don't think werewolves, eldritch abominations and nightmares are actually scary so I regret to inform you that Bloodborne (or any other soulsborne game btw, no idea why you'd go for bloodborne specifically) isn't a horror game.

Actually horror games don't exist because nothing ever frightens me in media. Resident Evil is an adventure game. Amnesia is an immersive sim.
Was Dishonored supposed to be a horror game ? There's a talking heart that whispers uncanny shit to you all the time. Although most people wouldn't flag it a horror game either. Hmmmmm.
Is Majora's mask a horror game ?

Is Warcraft III a horror game ?

Wonderful what we can pointlessly declare once we give zero shit about the specificity of a medium.
What's an rpg btw ?

I love how uninformed tards don't consider Bloodborne horror.

Ahah the uninformed tards, they don't even consider my completely arbitrary definition of a horror game. Ahah these fucking idiots. lmao.

Fuck off.

 

[Machocruz]

Lack of Insight has driven me mad

 

[Silva]

Skinwalker , since you got the DLC, I suggest you be on the lookout for weapons related to your build. For dex, the Saif and Maria's blades (Rakuyo?) are excellent, though the later is found by beating a tough "mini boss".

But the real show stealer is the Pizza Cutter.

Thanks, there's a heavy lack of skill weapons in the game (so far, I've only seen Blades of Mercy, and I haven't even gotten to that part yet in my redone playthrough). I suspect by the time I get to the DLC skill weapons, it will be too late (I probably won't be doing NG+ any time soon), but still good to know.

Even if skill is the main factor in Blades of Mercy damage, don't forget it also does some arcane damage - you know those sliding, glittery silver stabs? Those do arc + skl damage (and are great for pthumerians).

Other predominantly skill weapons besides BoM, are the Threaded Cane, Reiterpallach, Saif, Rakuyo, Church Pick and Simon Blowblade.

 

[Skinwalker]

Even if skill is the main factor in Blades of Mercy damage, don't forget it also does some arcane damage - you know those sliding, glittery silver stabs? Those do arc + skl damage (and are great for pthumerians).

That's good to know. I was already considering starting to invest some points into Arcane (I have some eldritch items I can't use yet), even better if it scales with the crow's blades.

 

[Skinwalker]

I had promised myself that I won't waste my time on chalice dungeons on my redone playthrough, and then went ahead and finished five of them already. What is wrong with me?

At least I now have enough Arcane to start using the hunters tools. What fun!

P. S. I lost like 20 Insight to the brainsucker boss. Fuck me.

 

[Silva]

I had promised myself that I won't waste my time on chalice dungeons on my redone playthrough, and then went ahead and finished five of them already. What is wrong with me?

At least I now have enough Arcane to start using the hunters tools. What fun!

Welcome to the fold.

If you're going arcane, consider using the tattoos that save on quicksilver bullets, since they're the fuel for arcane tools. Can't remember where you find em though.

 

[Silva]

Skinwalker I'll fire up my game tonight to see what root chalices I used to farm gems, and post them here. Who knows, maybe you enjoy it. I just advise to not go too far into it, and get gems around ~20% max otherwise it will break your playthrough.

Another useable thing to know is that most PvP happens around char lvl 100-130, so don't go over it if you want to find people to duel (and get those juicy blood dregs for the Cainhurst queen).

 

[Skinwalker]

Cainhurst was a cool level, nice gothic horror atmosphere, and some hints at actual vampires in a setting that's literally all about muh blood. Wish it was longer, but oh well. At least I got Alfred to tear the sole surviving vampiress to shreds.

Now onto Burgenworth and the bloodmoon phase.

 

[Skinwalker]

Hm, ascending the Cathedral Ward eventually led me to a bunch of aliens, and a non-hostile eldritch thing (optional boss?), whereas descending into Yahar'Ghul led me to FromSoftware's obligatory giant agglomeration of corpses boss, and a bunch of mummies behind him. That let me to a new nightmare level. Those are always fun...

Oh, and that bald guy in the lecture hall was literally a spider the whole time! I saw his copies in the Nightmare Frontier, but I hadn't realized that the one behind the door also had a spider body... should I kill him for being a prick?

 

[Silva]

Hm, ascending the Cathedral Ward eventually led me to a bunch of aliens, and a non-hostile eldritch thing (optional boss?), whereas descending into Yahar'Ghul led me to FromSoftware's obligatory giant agglomeration of corpses boss, and a bunch of mummies behind him. That let me to a new nightmare level. Those are always fun...

Oh, and that bald guy in the lecture hall was literally a spider the whole time! I saw his copies in the Nightmare Frontier, but I hadn't realized that the one behind the door also had a spider body... should I kill him for being a prick?

Do not kill Patches. He gives you a good rune. I just don't remember what triggers it, I think you must speak to him in the nightmare frontier.

So you found the secret location, the upper cathedral. I find it nicely atmospheric, specially if you still don't dominate the aliens movesets.

Tip: the boss there is Ebrietas, which is nice and can be somewhat challenging depending on your level. She is the great one found in the old labyrinth according to the lore, and drops the Isz chalice.

 

[Skinwalker]

Oh, he already gave me a good rune. I was just wondering if I should squash the spider out of spite...

Also, that's this game's equivalent of Patches??

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

Also, that's this game's equivalent of Patches??

 

[Talby]

Bloodborne is that kinda game where you'll be exploring some dank ruin, see something shifting around in the darkness, and say "I hope to God that's just a werewolf."

 

[Skinwalker]

Hm, I have a moral decision to make. Should I or should I not kill Ebrietas? I feel a bit iffy attacking a non-hostile enemy (I never fought Priscilla in Dark Souls), but I'm also not sure I like this weird tentacled thing. I understand that this is the source of Yharnam's eldritch blood, but I don't know what to make of this fact, and also Yharnam is doomed anyway (everyone is dead or turned into a monster).

Thoughts?

 

[Elttharion]

Hm, I have a moral decision to make. Should I or should I not kill Ebrietas? I feel a bit iffy attacking a non-hostile enemy (I never fought Priscilla in Dark Souls), but I'm also not sure I like this weird tentacled thing. I understand that this is the source of Yharnam's eldritch blood, but I don't know what to make of this fact, and also Yharnam is doomed anyway (everyone is dead or turned into a monster).

Thoughts?

 

[Silva]

Skinwalker , what shelter did you send people to, Iosefka's clinic or Oedon chapel?

 

[D_X]

Should I or should I not kill Ebrietas?

 

[Skinwalker]

Skinwalker , what shelter did you send people to, Iosefka's clinic or Oedon chapel?

Chapel.

 

[Silva]

Skinwalker , what shelter did you send people to, Iosefka's clinic or Oedon chapel?

Chapel.

Cool.

Don't forget to help a poor fella that will show up on forbidden forest mill eating some snacks.