Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 RELEASE THREAD

[dukeofwoodberry]

I'm not one of these anti woke free speech libertarian types. I would love it if fag and tranny content was banned and made illegal. I'm a fascist

They are fascist too.

As for your complaint, I'm afraid it has more to do with smaller roster and every character having to be unique and quirky. No room for predictable. Sadly.

They are authoritarian but not fascist. Fascism is right wing

 

[Swen]

I'm not one of these anti woke free speech libertarian types. I would love it if fag and tranny content was banned and made illegal. I'm a fascist

They are fascist too.

As for your complaint, I'm afraid it has more to do with smaller roster and every character having to be unique and quirky. No room for predictable. Sadly.

They are authoritarian but not fascist. Fascism is right wing

The modern left acts like real fascistis these days though.

 

[Reyvik]

I'm not one of these anti woke free speech libertarian types. I would love it if fag and tranny content was banned and made illegal. I'm a fascist

You're moron, primarily

 

[dukeofwoodberry]

I'm not one of these anti woke free speech libertarian types. I would love it if fag and tranny content was banned and made illegal. I'm a fascist

You're moron, primarily

Are you a fag or tranny? You sound butt hurt lol

 

[Reyvik]

Are you a fag or tranny? You sound butt hurt lol

You're definitely negro

 

[Fedora Master]

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Not news.

 

[Jvegi]

Are you a fag or tranny? You sound butt hurt lol

You're definitely negro

I'm confused.

Not a frequent guest to this thread am I. Change it does going to not.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

It seems BG3's ain't happy about Wyll's ending and how much favoritsm Astarion is getting

 

[Dishonoredbr]

I'm giving it about six years until we get a wave of new users complaining that the cRPGs of 2030 can't match up to the old classics like Baldur's Gate 3, Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous, and Pillars of Eternity Deadfire.

Dragon Age Veilguard already looks like trash compared those, so you might be onto to something

 

[NaturallyCarnivorousSheep]

It seems BG3's ain't happy about Wyll's ending and how much favoritsm Astarion is getting

Sorry never gonna have wyll in my party cuz I don't like nigs

 

[Cael]

I'm not one of these anti woke free speech libertarian types. I would love it if fag and tranny content was banned and made illegal. I'm a fascist

They are fascist too.

As for your complaint, I'm afraid it has more to do with smaller roster and every character having to be unique and quirky. No room for predictable. Sadly.

They are authoritarian but not fascist. Fascism is right wing

Yes. Because socialism and workers' parties are both right wing constructs...

 

[dukeofwoodberry]

I'm not one of these anti woke free speech libertarian types. I would love it if fag and tranny content was banned and made illegal. I'm a fascist

They are fascist too.

As for your complaint, I'm afraid it has more to do with smaller roster and every character having to be unique and quirky. No room for predictable. Sadly.

They are authoritarian but not fascist. Fascism is right wing

Yes. Because socialism and workers' parties are both right wing constructs...

Fascism is third way economics. It's not communism or capitalism. Hitler hated communists with a passion. And beyond economics, fascism is associated with things like ultra nationalism, racially homogeneous, other right wing social positions like being anti LGBT.

 

[Cael]

I'm not one of these anti woke free speech libertarian types. I would love it if fag and tranny content was banned and made illegal. I'm a fascist

They are fascist too.

As for your complaint, I'm afraid it has more to do with smaller roster and every character having to be unique and quirky. No room for predictable. Sadly.

They are authoritarian but not fascist. Fascism is right wing

Yes. Because socialism and workers' parties are both right wing constructs...

Fascism is third way economics. It's not communism or capitalism. Hitler hated communists with a passion. And beyond economics, fascism is associated with things like ultra nationalism, racially homogeneous, other right wing social positions like being anti LGBT.

Anti-alphabet soup is not a rightwing position so much as it is a rejection of leftwing nonsense. But good try conflating the two.

As for Hitler hating communists, here we go again:
"The Yakuza hate the mafia, so the Yakuza must be the police!!!"

 

[Harthwain]

Fascism is third way economics. It's not communism or capitalism. Hitler hated communists with a passion.

What Hitler created was national socialism. It is closer to communism than it is to capitalism. The end goal was to limit private property in favour of the state (or even eliminate it - land, in his views, was supposed only to be given as a loan, not owned by an individual).

 

[ropetight]

I'm not one of these anti woke free speech libertarian types. I would love it if fag and tranny content was banned and made illegal. I'm a fascist

They are fascist too.

As for your complaint, I'm afraid it has more to do with smaller roster and every character having to be unique and quirky. No room for predictable. Sadly.

They are authoritarian but not fascist. Fascism is right wing

Yes. Because socialism and workers' parties are both right wing constructs...

Fascism is third way economics. It's not communism or capitalism. Hitler hated communists with a passion. And beyond economics, fascism is associated with things like ultra nationalism, racially homogeneous, other right wing social positions like being anti LGBT.

Anti-alphabet soup is not a rightwing position so much as it is a rejection of leftwing nonsense. But good try conflating the two.

As for Hitler hating communists, here we go again:
"The Yakuza hate the mafia, so the Yakuza must be the police!!!"

And it doesn't mean that methods of the fascists and communists must be that different.
Since movements appeared approximately in the same time, their members often switched sides with very little effort.

Mussolini had strong socialist roots and beliefs - oratory focus on the workers and organisation techniques of the left helped him to get to the power.
He split the ways with socialists at the advent of the First World War, after being editor of the Socialist party paper Avanti!.

Benito Mussolini's father, Alessandro Mussolini, was a blacksmith and a socialist,[1] while his mother, Rosa (née Maltoni), was a devout Catholic schoolteacher.[2] Given his father's political leanings, Mussolini was named Benito after liberal Mexican president Benito Juárez, while his middle names, Andrea and Amilcare, were for Italian socialists Andrea Costa and Amilcare Cipriani.[3] In return his mother required that he be baptised at birth.[2] Benito was the eldest of his parents' three children. His siblings Arnaldo and Edvige followed.[citation needed]

His father's political outlook combined views of anarchist figures such as Carlo Cafiero and Mikhail Bakunin, the military authoritarianism of Garibaldi, and the nationalism of Mazzini. In 1902, at the anniversary of Garibaldi's death, Mussolini made a public speech in praise of the republican nationalist.[6]

Mussolini became active in the Italian socialist movement in Switzerland, working for the paper L'Avvenire del Lavoratore, organising meetings, giving speeches to workers, and serving as secretary of the Italian workers' union in Lausanne.[9] Angelica Balabanov reportedly introduced him to Vladimir Lenin, who later criticised Italian socialists for having lost Mussolini from their cause.[11] In 1903, he was arrested by Bernese police because of his advocacy of a violent general strike, spent two weeks in jail, and was handed over to Italian police in Chiasso.[9] After he was released in Italy, he returned to Switzerland.[12] He was arrested again in Geneva, in April 1904, for falsifying his passport expiration date, and was expelled from the canton of Geneva.[9] He was released in Bellinzona following protests from Genevan socialists.[9]

In February 1909,[17] Mussolini again left Italy, this time to take the job as the secretary of the labour party in the Italian-speaking city of Trento, which at the time was part of Austria-Hungary (it is now within Italy). He also did office work for the local Socialist Party, and edited its newspaper L'Avvenire del Lavoratore (The Future of the Worker). Returning to Italy, he spent a brief time in Milan, and in 1910 he returned to his hometown of Forlì, where he edited the weekly Lotta di classe (The Class Struggle).

He had become one of Italy's most prominent socialists. In September 1911, Mussolini participated in a riot, led by socialists, against the Italian war in Libya. He bitterly denounced Italy's "imperialist war," an action that earned him a five-month jail term.[22] After his release, he helped expel Ivanoe Bonomi and Leonida Bissolati from the Socialist Party, as they were two "revisionists" who had supported the war.

Mussolini initially held official support for the party's decision and, in an August 1914 article, Mussolini wrote "Down with the War. We remain neutral." He saw the war as an opportunity, both for his own ambitions as well as those of socialists and Italians. He was influenced by anti-Austrian Italian nationalist sentiments, believing that the war offered Italians in Austria-Hungary the chance to liberate themselves from rule of the Habsburgs. He eventually decided to declare support for the war by appealing to the need for socialists to overthrow the Hohenzollern and Habsburg monarchies in Germany and Austria-Hungary who he said had consistently repressed socialism.[39]

In his summary, the Inspector also noted:

He was the ideal editor of Avanti! for the Socialists. In that line of work he was greatly esteemed and beloved. Some of his former comrades and admirers still confess that there was no one who understood better how to interpret the spirit of the proletariat and there was no one who did not observe his apostasy with sorrow. This came about not for reasons of self-interest or money. He was a sincere and passionate advocate, first of vigilant and armed neutrality, and later of war; and he did not believe that he was compromising with his personal and political honesty by making use of every means—no matter where they came from or wherever he might obtain them—to pay for his newspaper, his program and his line of action. This was his initial line. It is difficult to say to what extent his socialist convictions (which he never either openly or privately abjure) may have been sacrificed in the course of the indispensable financial deals which were necessary for the continuation of the struggle in which he was engaged ... But assuming these modifications did take place ... he always wanted to give the appearance of still being a socialist, and he fooled himself into thinking that this was the case.[41]

 

[Lemming42]

 

[dukeofwoodberry]

Fascism is third way economics. It's not communism or capitalism. Hitler hated communists with a passion.

What Hitler created was national socialism. It is closer to communism than it is to capitalism. The end goal was to limit private property in favour of the state (or even eliminate it - land, in his views, was supposed only to be given as a loan, not owned by an individual).

Not exactly. The goal was not to eliminate private property. There was a mix of central planning and market economics. He wanted every day Germans to be able to own their own homes. He didn't want a bunch of Jewish landlords controlling it, banks making money from interest rates on mortgages. It really isn't communism or capitalism.

 

[Harthwain]

Not exactly. The goal was not to eliminate private property. There was a mix of central planning and market economics.

I specifically said "limit" first for a reason. However, if limiting the private property wouldn't be sufficient to fulfill the will of the state, then elimination is the next step. This is very well reflected in his comment about the industry:

I tell German industry for example, “You have to produce such and such now.” I then return to this in the Four-Year Plan. If German industry were to answer me, “We are not able to”, then I would say to it, “Fine, then I will take that over myself, but it must be done.” But if industry tells me, “We will do that”, then I am very glad that I do not need to take that on.

You can read something similar here:

Therefore wealth in particular does not only have greater possibilities for enjoyment, but above all greater obligations. The view that the utilization of a fortune no matter of what size is solely the private affair of the individual requires to be corrected all the more in the National Socialist state, because without the contribution of the community no individual would have been able to enjoy such an advantage.

It pretty much says that the state decides what to do with your wealth, because you owe your wealth to the community/state. Which renders the very idea of private property/ownership/wealth pretty much null and void. Effectively you are permitted to have private property when the state says so. Frankly, that's not really the kind of system I would be comfortable to live in.

Communists actually did something strikingly similar: first they said the private property is forbidden (because everything belongs to everybody, meaning the Party will decide what goes to whom). Then they realized people were sitting on their hands, because nobody wanted to work without gaining anything from it. So then they said that anyone who builds a house will own that property. Only to reverse that decision later on, stealing away places people built on their own as a result.

 

[dukeofwoodberry]

Not exactly. The goal was not to eliminate private property. There was a mix of central planning and market economics.

I specifically said "limit" first for a reason. However, if limiting the private property wouldn't be sufficient to fulfill the will of the state, then elimination is the next step. This is very well reflected in his comment about the industry:

I tell German industry for example, “You have to produce such and such now.” I then return to this in the Four-Year Plan. If German industry were to answer me, “We are not able to”, then I would say to it, “Fine, then I will take that over myself, but it must be done.” But if industry tells me, “We will do that”, then I am very glad that I do not need to take that on.

You can read something similar here:

Therefore wealth in particular does not only have greater possibilities for enjoyment, but above all greater obligations. The view that the utilization of a fortune no matter of what size is solely the private affair of the individual requires to be corrected all the more in the National Socialist state, because without the contribution of the community no individual would have been able to enjoy such an advantage.

It pretty much says that the state decides what to do with your wealth, because you owe your wealth to the community/state. Which renders the very idea of private property/ownership/wealth pretty much null and void. Effectively you are permitted to have private property when the state says so. Frankly, that's not really the kind of system I would be comfortable to live in.

Communists actually did something strikingly similar: first they said the private property is forbidden (because everything belongs to everybody, meaning the Party will decide what goes to whom). Then they realized people were sitting on their hands, because nobody wanted to work without gaining anything from it. So then they said that anyone who builds a house will own that property. Only to reverse that decision later on, stealing away places people built on their own as a result.

We have eminent domain in capitalist societies too. Hitler's economy was not operating like Soviet Russia. I already acknowledged there was a mix of central planning and private industry. The central planning wasn't anything comparable to something like Soviet Union.

There wasn't major wealth confiscation besides Jews. Basically Hitler was saying he didn't want the rich/elite class to be parasites sucking the country dry to enrich themselves like we've had in the US. With great power (wealth) comes great responsibility. Instead in the US and western Europe we have wealthy and elites who suck their country dry to enrich themselves.

 

[Old Hans]

It seems BG3's ain't happy about Wyll's ending and how much favoritsm Astarion is getting

well maybe if Larian re-write his character at the 11th hour, wyll would have been more popular

 

[PunchYouInTheFace]

Wyll's ending

Hopefully he'll get some new update sometimes in the future.

Also, why are there some retards turning this thread into hitler discussion, go back to reddit tf, lmao.

 

[Larianshill]

well maybe if Larian re-write his character at the 11th hour, wyll would have been more popular

Wyll was not popular before or after the rewrites, and he never could be popular. The reason is kind of obvious.

 

[Swen]

https://x.com/LarAtLarian/status/1829563912875888813

Talent respects talent.

 

[motherfucker]

Game was full of edge and degeneracy. For its time at least.

The real edge and degeneracy shit was a russian FO clone called Planet Alcatraz.

 

[Infinitron]