Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Lacrymas]

Hope truly kills you in the end.

Hope is a cruel mistress. Today, she is particularly brutal.

“Those were great games for their time, but next year is 2020 and you can’t do the same things you did back then. No one would want to play it. Well, people would want to play it, but it wouldn’t meet the expectations of a modern video game”

This quote effectively killed my ability to get a boner forever. I hope you are happy, Swen.

 

[Darth Canoli]

So this means that, inspired by the massive success that was Grimwah, the game is going to be an old school first person dungeon crawler, right? I am interpreting this correctly aren't I? Guys?

"We're going beyond what we've done before to make it the game it deserves to be. That sounds like a slogan—it is a slogan—but it's true."

Not at all.
Reading bits and pieces, i mostly remember :
- "fixed the miss issues" > HP bloat ?
- "unparalleled freedom" > M&M6-8 style with town portal, walk on water, lloyd's beacon, fly and why not the teleport come back ?
- Or even a Wizardry 8 kind of engine and D&D extrapolation ruleset

That would be pure incline!

Spoiler

Who am i kidding, seriously ?

And something I've forgotten to mention: Sven REFUSED to either confirm or deny that the new protagonist will be Bhaalspawn. Once again, something very strange is going on with the story.

We're going to play an Illithild / Sahuagin party and get to be the villains, for once, it'll be like "Chtullu saves the world" except in 3D!

 

[Perkel]

That quote from your signature is fucking golden man. It's like there were no Kickstarter wave of "old school games". There are shit ton of people who want exactly that...
I ques when you have "fuck you" money you can say "fuck you" to customers too. Fucking Swen, giant douche. Can I have time-machine and un-bake DOS'2 ( shitty game btw )?

ok you convinced me. Maybe some idiots at larian will see this and think for a second.

 

[hexer]

I see people don't believe this cutscene could have been made in a game engine.
I'll just leave an example of real-time cutscene in Unity 2019, a low budget engine, so everybody can judge for themselves what devs are capable of today

 

[InD_ImaginE]

Didn't they say they will adapt 5E faithfully with tweak for video games? I think someone posted that a few pages ago. Even at worst case it would still means RtWP even though exploration and combat might be done in 3rd person with tactical camera ala Dragon Age?

 

[Aemar]

Yep, you can read the comics, "for free", online.

Additionally, thanks to "Heroes of Baldur's Gate" additional characters from the original saga that are confirmed alive are, amongst others:
- Minsc (already confirmed in an official source),
- Coran (confirmed in two different sources),
- DYNAHEIR (....I can't even),
- FUCKING FALDORN (how many times do I have to kill her?)
- Imoen,
- Xan,
- Edwin,

And a few others.

I see there are some really, really important characters missing from that list. A third game in the series without either Noober or Neeber would be a travesty.

 

[Trans-Financial-Man]

In all seriousness this game should've been made by Owlcat. Pathfinder Kingmaker was an amazing but buggy game. But all the hipsters in SanFran including the ones who cling like mould to WotC jizzed themselves over OS2. Even though it was a collection of ambitious but half baked ideas. Even the enhanced edition didn't fix that. I suspect we're getting a big budget Dragon Age style game. Not necessarily a bad thing. Dragon Age was the last good true WRPG till Pathfinder. But it'll probably have that self referential Whedon esque writing from DA that is only possible when written by a rapist Male feminist ally.

 

[Trans-Financial-Man]

D&D without missing in combat, because that's no fun. What drugs are they on?

It's no fun to the target audience of cretins, rapists, paedophiles, and games journalists.

 

[Perkel]

I see people don't believe this cutscene could have been made in a game engine.
I'll just leave an example of real-time cutscene in Unity 2019, a low budget engine, so everybody can judge for themselves what devs are capable of today

I can see perfectly this is in engine cutscene. That trailer WAS CGI precisely because you can see all tales of CGI trailer. Lighting is biggest tell.

 

[Lacrymas]

I'm going to be able to stoically bear it if it's like DA:O, but we all know it'll be like DA:I.

 

[Outlander]

In all seriousness this game should've been made by Owlcat. Pathfinder Kingmaker was an amazing but buggy game. But all the hipsters in SanFran including the ones who cling like mould to WotC jizzed themselves over OS2. Even though it was a collection of ambitious but half baked ideas. Even the enhanced edition didn't fix that. I suspect we're getting a big budget Dragon Age style game. Not necessarily a bad thing. Dragon Age was the last good true WRPG till Pathfinder. But it'll probably have that self referential Whedon esque writing from DA that is only possible when written by a rapist Male feminist ally.

BG3 started development well before Kingmaker's release.

 

[Trans-Financial-Man]

Beamdog's / Trent's reaction

Trent while writing that tweet:

Spoiler

They've been working on the game for two years. Imagine Trent quietly pitching BG3 to WotC after that dreadful expansion they made came out whilst they were being cucked by Larian.

 

[Mr. Hiver]

The fact they wont confirm its going to be TB system means it wont be. If it was, why wouldn't they confirm it right away?
Same for "isometric" PoV...

The fucking "modern audiences" angle says who will it be made for. I kinda doubt they will go for RtWP, so that only leaves full real time combat... but 5e isnt built for that.
Since its a party based game the field of view must be wider, it cant be third person, but they will probably go for some inane version of it. Probably some fucking cinematic shit version of Divinity games.

Well, in that case i hope they crash and burn.

 

[Barabus]

"You miss a lot in D&D—if the dice are bad, you miss," he says. "That doesn't work well in a videogame.

 

[Dedicated_Dark]

"You miss a lot in D&D—if the dice are bad, you miss," he says. "That doesn't work well in a videogame.

Worked fine in skyrim. Barely ever managed to hit anything.

 

[Trans-Financial-Man]

Is every year this amazing for new upcoming rpgs!!! The Outer Worlds, Bloodlines 2, Baldur's Gate 3, Deadfire on Switch, ahh I can't believe I only really started paying attention when I played Horizon Zero Dawn and then Deadfire stole my heart!!! This is Totally Fierce!

I know you're a troll but fucking hell I want all those games to be good. But I know none of them will be.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

pages 1-30: this game will be too cartoony!
pages 31-150: this game will be nothing like D&D!
pages 151-250: this game will never sell 150 million copies!
pages 251-inf: it was ok

 

[glass blackbird]

In all seriousness this game should've been made by Owlcat. Pathfinder Kingmaker was an amazing but buggy game. But all the hipsters in SanFran including the ones who cling like mould to WotC jizzed themselves over OS2. Even though it was a collection of ambitious but half baked ideas. Even the enhanced edition didn't fix that. I suspect we're getting a big budget Dragon Age style game. Not necessarily a bad thing. Dragon Age was the last good true WRPG till Pathfinder. But it'll probably have that self referential Whedon esque writing from DA that is only possible when written by a rapist Male feminist ally.

maybe WOTC prefers to license their property to someone who can make a game that isn't broken for like two years after launch

 

[Chippy]

Just read that RPS interview. Glad I didn't feel a flicker of hype in my sceptical heart. Sounds like they stopped just short of going full retard/first person-Bethesda-inspired F3.

Thank God for the Russians.

 

[Trans-Financial-Man]

In all seriousness this game should've been made by Owlcat. Pathfinder Kingmaker was an amazing but buggy game. But all the hipsters in SanFran including the ones who cling like mould to WotC jizzed themselves over OS2. Even though it was a collection of ambitious but half baked ideas. Even the enhanced edition didn't fix that. I suspect we're getting a big budget Dragon Age style game. Not necessarily a bad thing. Dragon Age was the last good true WRPG till Pathfinder. But it'll probably have that self referential Whedon esque writing from DA that is only possible when written by a rapist Male feminist ally.

maybe WOTC prefers to license their property to someone who can make a game that isn't broken for like two years after launch

Yeah well at least you can finish Kingmaker. At least Kingmaker had a strong vision and didn't just taper out because of feature creep.

 

[Kyl Von Kull]

With 300 people working on it, it’s either going to be Baldur’s Gate 3: Origins, or The Elder Scrolls: Baldur’s Gate 3.

 

[Monkeyfinger]

60% hit rate based combat is one of the worst things about WRPGs and I'm glad Swen agrees.

 

[hexer]

I can see perfectly this is in engine cutscene. That trailer WAS CGI precisely because you can see all tales of CGI trailer. Lighting is biggest tell.

If they're not employing epic-level VFX wizards then they could have still assembled the cutscene in a game engine and rendered it with OctaneRender.
What I'm telling, it's not impossible to do those things in a AAA game engine anymore.

 

[Trans-Financial-Man]

Just read that RPS interview. Glad I didn't feel a flicker of hype in my sceptical heart. Sounds like they stopped just short of going full retard/first person-Bethesda-inspired F3.

Thanks God for the Rusians.

Do you need the post-RPS blanket? It's really hard to get through an RPS article nowadays, I'll understand if you need a short cry from the trauma. My kid's fingerpaintings are more eloquent and less fucking pretentious.

 

[DalekFlay]

If your only measurement of success on this is how "old school" and niche it is you're gonna be disappointed. The budget and scale he's talking about, it's a mainstream play. I don't know if that means Dragon Age or not, but it definitely doesn't mean Pillars of Eternity, let alone more "hardcore" than that. Can't wait to hear years of bitching about it though, should be fun.