Anything as good as Max Payne out there?

[adddeed]

Man, MP1 and 2 are still the best third person shooters around. Is Max Payne 3 worth getting? any other game with as good gunplay and atmosphere? Iv eplayed Max Payne 1 around 5 or 6 times.

 

[Jazz_]

''Enter The Matrix'' had very similar gameplay if my memory serves me right.

 

[Lazing Dirk]

Did you try Warframe? Haha, just kidding. No seriously, don't.

The only other decent TPS I can think of off-hand would be Sniper Elite, though the actual gameplay is probably about as far from Max Payne's gung-ho shooting as you can get. But it does have slow-mo, so that counts, right? You could play VtM:B with guns I guess. Everything else I could think of just had it as an option, but was primarily an FPS. Oh, that WH40K: Space Marine game was a TPS, that was pretty cool.

Edit: Just Cause is good for some brainless silly fun, if you just want to blow shit up and go crazy.

Double edit: Oh fuck me, I forgot Spec Ops: The Line. Shooties and atmosphere. Good game.

 

[Ash]

Third person shooters I like (strictly behind view perspective of a humanoid with a focus on shooting - so no vehicular combat games for instance):

Note: 90% of these are not cover shooters and are pre-modern decline. Modern molepoppers of the codex need not apply input.

Max Payne
Max Payne 2
GUN
Dead Space
Dead Space 2
Dead Space 3
The Punisher
the Saboteur
Resident Evil 4
Resident Evil 5
Total Overdose
The Suffering
The Suffering 2
Cold Fear
MDK
Tomb Raider 1
Tomb Raider 2
Tomb Raider 3 (These barely count, but there is behind view control TP shooting so...)
Duke Nukem: Zero Hour
Duke Nukem: Time to Kill
Duke Nukem: Land of the Babes
Syphon Filter
Syphon Filter 2
Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction
Mercenaries 2
Blade (PSX game from 2000)
Destroy All Humans
Destroy All Humans 2
GTA: vice City
GTA: San Andreas
Red Dead Revolver
Red Dead Redemption
Final Fantasy 7: Dirge of Cerberus

Few are true classics, few at all. But what they are is good old games worth playing, and not repetitive cover shooters.

 

[Jazz_]

Third person shooters I like:

Note: 80% of these are not cover shooters and are pre-modern decline.

The first three Tomb raiders if they count (not really, because the shooting is shit and the games focus more on puzzling and platforming).

I liked the first 3 Tomb Raiders but I think the best Tomb Raider game evah was actually the IV, Tomb Raider: The Last Revelation. It was incredibly atmospheric.

Props for naming Syphon Filter, brought me back to my PS1 days.

 

[Ash]

Couldn't get into Last Revelation. Got about eight or so levels in but the lack of globe trotting of the previous games (and all the gameplay and aesthetic diversity that brings) put me off, if I recall. Got tired of Egypt as well as same old formula of 1-3 without much innovation.
Shits on the majority of third person games these days though.

Syphon Filter is a third person classic.

As for "Third person shooters as good as MP", well, I'd say GUN, a great westerner that came onto the market just before the decline hit. Has a similar depressing atmosphere and story, arguably better gameplay than MP, and generally is a good game. Better than Red Dead Redemption, imo.

Resident Evil 4 is still a well known name for mostly good reasons.

For pure gameplay greatness, I think Duke Nukem: Zero Hour holds up extremely well for an N64 shooter, considerably more so than that overrated Goldeneye mediocrity. It's just classic 'Nukem 3D style design in third person basically. All the crude humor, great level design, fun weapons, kickass music and babe saving is still there.

Sniper Elite
WH40K: Space Marine
Just Cause.
Spec Ops: The Line. Shooties and atmosphere. Good game.

 

[Jick Magger]

Tetris

 

[shihonage]

Whether you enjoy Max Payne 3 depends on the fact as to whether you enjoy unskippable cutscenes they used to load data, and overuse of video filtering in the said scenes.

 

[J1M]

Just accept that Max Payne was the best single-player shooter and that Darksiders was the best action-adventure and that we are living in the age of decline. Your only hope to play a new game that is also the best of its genre is for someone to invent a new genre.

 

[RuySan]

Darksiders was...what???

 

[Jarmaro]

F.E.A.R 1 seems like game for you

 

[Lazing Dirk]

Spec Ops did at least try to be something other than the usual "Kill darkies in the desert; Go USA!" rubbish. Plot aside, it even some half-assed C&C in there, some of which *gasp* wasn't even listed as an option. For instance, when you're surrounded by a mob and your buddy is shouting for you to give the order for you to start shooting, it doesn't flash up two big blue and red buttons for you to pick from, you just start shooting into the crowd (and massacre them) or into the sky (to scare them off). Yeah sure it's cover wankery and it forces some options on you (like the WP sequence), but it's a massive improvement over most PRESS F TO DO THE THING modern shooters. You even get 3 different endings (sort of).

Funny you would complain about decline then list the entire Dead Space series. QTEs and HURR SO SCARY moments? Please. The third one even added a cover system.

Also The Punisher was pretty forgettable. All I remember of it is the hilarious executions (and you had to mod the game if you wanted to actually see them properly). MDK was cool though.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Total overdose. Basic light-hearted Max Payne/gta in Mexico. P. Fun, more stunts and all.

 

[Morgoth]

This perhaps?
http://store.steampowered.com/app/265930/

 

[Ash]

Funny you would complain about decline then list the entire Dead Space series. QTEs and HURR SO SCARY moments? Please. The third one even added a cover system.

Also The Punisher was pretty forgettable. All I remember of it is the hilarious executions (and you had to mod the game if you wanted to actually see them properly). MDK was cool though.

It's not a list of the best of the best. It's list of TPS that are decent to great that don't consist of the entirety of the game popping moles from behind cover and doing nothing else like Spec Ops/Kane & Lynch/Gears Of War all that decline, because that stuff is pure garbage. The list has a variable mix of interesting level design, innovative game mechanics, blend aspects of other genres such as puzzles, exploration and platforming, and so on.

The Punisher qualifies because it has interrogations/executions, it's not a cover shooter, the story is OK, it has an interesting points system that ties gameplay together etc. You can grab a dude and toss him into another dude. Or you can use him as a meat shield, interrogate him, let him go or just slit his throat. It's got some things going for it rather than sitting behind cover with regen health popping moles.

Dead Space 3 doesn't have a cover system that I recall, and if it does it's absolutely not at the core of the experience otherwise I'd have remembered it. As for QTEs, the first game has none. The second does but they are few and far between. again though, it's not a best of the best list. It's stuff I'd rate from 7/10 to 10/10, and I'd rate the DS series 8/10 as far as TPS goes.

Other games that one may think would make the list for being more than popping moles, like Uncharted, don't make the list. The games are far too fixated on cinematics and telling their shitty story that it impedes on the gameplay, and while the gameplay is more than popping moles the majority of the time it isn't really engaging and is piss easy.

 

[RuySan]

Does Just Cause 2 counts? You see the back of your character and kill stuff in stylish fashion.

 

[Ninja Destroyer]

The Punisher qualifies because it has interrogations/executions, it's not a cover shooter, the story is OK, it has an interesting points system that ties gameplay together etc. You can grab a dude and toss him into another dude. Or you can use him as a meat shield, interrogate him, let him go or just slit his throat. It's got some things going for it rather than sitting behind cover with regen health popping moles.

I agree, the interrogation system was awesome. Finding all possible places where you can do it made it great. Lots of weapons to choose and solid plot. One of the better games based on comic series.

 

[A horse of course]

People are just dumping random third-person shooters.

 

[sullynathan]

Max Payne 3 is a good evolution of the formula and mostly melds cover shooting and run and gun well. The big downside of Thg game is that most cutscenes can't be skipped.

FEAR has the bullet time mechanic as well but has stale locations and enemies

 

[ghostdog]

The only game I've played that resembles MP1&2 quite a bit, is Stranglehold. Max Payne was inspired by John Woo's movies and mainly Hard Boiled (it had many references) so after Max Payne was a success someone thought, hey let's make an actual John Woo game, and they made this, which is basically Hard Boiled: The game. It's not as good as MP1&2 and it has more contained levels where a lot of enemies come at you, but it's a very good shooter nevertheless, with some awesome shootouts and a general gun-firing mayhem.

 

[Siveon]

Final Fantasy 7: Dirge of Cerberus

Wasn't this, well, shit? This is the first time I've heard anything relatively good about this one.

 

[Ash]

7.5 or 8/10. Probably the only TPS/RPG hybrid in existence, although it's lacking on the RPG side being a Japanese game, naturally. Gameplay is decent-good. Story is shit. Worth a go if you're a gameplay fag and a little underrated I'd say.

Edit: forgot alpha protocol and mass effect, but I think those are utter shit (primarily in gameplay) and I'd readily recommend Dirge of Cerberus over them. Getting gameplay at least serviceable is an absolute requirement for me.

 

[Hobo Elf]

Planet Blupi is at least just as good as Max Payne.

 

[skacky]

The Specialists mod for Half-Life was an excellent FPS/TPS with bullet-time and other powerups like super jumps and you could do a few awesome acrobatics. It was more like a Matrix/John Woo type thing but it had a Max Payne skin if I remember correctly. Sadly no one plays it anymore, but it was damn great.

 

[DemonKing]

Definitely go for FEAR if you're into the Bullet Time mechanic.

If you're more into 3rd Person Action the latest Tomb Raiders are pretty good (I prefer the 2013 reboot to last year's RotTR but it's still a good game).