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https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1669000/view/3978435073800292208?l=english

Survey to "help them improve the game". lol

Wonder if there's an option for: "Make a good game instead of this dog shit."
Fairly long survey. Funnily enough I haven't seen a single tv show they asked an opinion of.
You are more patient than I am. I've closed the survey tab at the third or fourth question about social media and other unrelated shit.
 

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https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1669000/view/3978435073800292208?l=english

Survey to "help them improve the game". lol

Wonder if there's an option for: "Make a good game instead of this dog shit."
Fairly long survey. Funnily enough I haven't seen a single tv show they asked an opinion of.
You are more patient than I am. I've closed the survey tab at the third or fourth question about social media and other unrelated shit.

I finished it, but it is mostly that. You can eventually give them some actual feedback, but it's all at the end and minimal except for the comment box.
 

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Codex 2012 Codex+ Now Streaming! Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. MCA Project: Eternity Divinity: Original Sin 2
You can eventually give them some actual feedback, but it's all at the end and minimal except for the comment box.
Nobody actually reads that. It is just put there as feel good option.

I have no doubt that you're right, but after getting to the end of the fucking thing, I needed the chance to blast them. :lol:
 

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It still has around 1500 players daily, so I guess some people are still playing it.
 

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It still has around 1500 players daily, so I guess some people are still playing it.

It had a ton of players on release, so I'd say the DLC is probably not worth producing financially, but it's pretty hard to turn on a dime and just go, "Nah we're going to not make anymore content even though we put out a season pass on release".
 

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I'm gonna give it a shot when all the DLCs come out and it's on sale. I enjoyed Planetfall (still haven't played the campaigns, maybe it's time). How bad could this possibly be?
 

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
I'm gonna give it a shot when all the DLCs come out and it's on sale. I enjoyed Planetfall (still haven't played the campaigns, maybe it's time). How bad could this possibly be?
My thinking this, word for word. The lack of actual campaigns worries me but I'm sure it'll be fine. :burningdogmeme:
 

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I got back to playing AoW3 recently, just hitting up RMG with different race/class/perk combo every free evening. And damn, it still hits hard how fucking declined this crap is compared to all the great stuff and even greater promise that AoW3 had.
 

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I got back to playing AoW3 recently, just hitting up RMG with different race/class/perk combo every free evening. And damn, it still hits hard how fucking declined this crap is compared to all the great stuff and even greater promise that AoW3 had.
AoW3 is just bad Shadow Magic with a Civ5 UI, though.

AoW4 actually has potential with the Tome system but they are totally wasting it, as usual for a Paradox published game. Game is like a 6/10 but it could have been 10/10 if they weren't morons.
 
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I can't say I count "teh campaign" among the main issues of the game, both because it essentially has one (in the form of a series of sequential scenarios loosely connected by a metaplot) and because I always considered "campaigns" in this genre little more than extended tutorial and the "big scenarios" are what I play for.

I think the real problems with this one are about its core mechanics.
Specifically the way the game refuses to make anything unique and very few things mutually exclusive. As a result after a while all factions feel pretty much the same, unlock mostly the same shit, pile up largely the same amount of permanent buffs and mutations and play in the same way.

This should allegedly favor "freedom and creativity" for the players but the reality is that it contributes to rob them of the ability to experience diverse playstyles.
 

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I'm gonna give it a shot when all the DLCs come out and it's on sale. I enjoyed Planetfall (still haven't played the campaigns, maybe it's time). How bad could this possibly be?

It's basically one and done. There's no story and "hook" to the gameplay, but it's fine to play through to see all the tomes/spells once, after that it just feels... empty and hollow. But that's how AoW has felt to me since 3, so whatever. If you have a bunch of friends to play with who don't get bored of it instantly, there's MP. That's really what it's designed for.

It's "okay", but no classic.
 

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I never got warm with Planetfall, but that was mostly due to the quirky fantasy sci-fi design, rather than the core mechanics. The laser-raptor shit didn't work for me at all.

AoW4 core mechanics are all shallow lacking any consequential choices. It is not a thinking-mans game, but it is enjoyable after long day to wind down, since the mechanics also avoid being outright bad, they are just simple. It manages to hide this superficiality for a while by throwing content at you, but there is little of interest left once you've seen all the tomes and cultures. It is nice to look at, in-offensive and easy to engage with, so its not surprising that it was mostly well received.

It can be frustrating thinking about what the game could be, since it has all the moving parts that would allow for more interesting game play, they simply aren't connected in any meaningful way. The dlc's and patches are mostly just more content, but no major changes to game play. I don't think the game is bad and I have a much better time with it than Planetfall, but having played Spellforce: Conquest of Eo by now, it is also clear how painfully average the game is, when it could be much better.
 

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I can't say I count "teh campaign" among the main issues of the game, both because it essentially has one (in the form of a series of sequential scenarios loosely connected by a metaplot) and because I always considered "campaigns" in this genre little more than extended tutorial and the "big scenarios" are what I play for.

I think the real problems with this one are about its core mechanics.
Specifically the way the game refuses to make anything unique and very few things mutually exclusive. As a result after a while all factions feel pretty much the same, unlock mostly the same shit, pile up largely the same amount of permanent buffs and mutations and play in the same way.

This should allegedly favor "freedom and creativity" for the players but the reality is that it contributes to rob them of the ability to experience diverse playstyles.
This is basically how I feel. The entire Paradox MO these days is this, hurts CK3 as well, although CK# would suckr regardless.
 

Lacrymas

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The problem with these wishy-washy "create your own experience" type of games is that people like to win and like to win easily at that, so the instinct is to find the most broken shit and do that over and over again. Theoretically, you can create varied factions, but why would you? It's even worse in AoW4 where all factions end up being the same in the end anyway, so why bother. I honestly don't know what they were thinking with this game.
 

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