Yet Another Morrowind Thread

[AW8]

I'm sorry Sigourn, but Depth of Field is an automatic death warrant. Time to seek out the Thieves' Guild.

 

[cretin]

No your screens really do look like shit

Nah mate, your opinion is shit. I'm guessing they are not 640x480 enough for you.

The problem is precisely that its all very low quality and ugly and you think im arguing for something even less detailed? Have you considered you are the one with a warped sense of aesthetics and not everyone else?

 

[Sigourn]

The problem is precisely that its all very low quality and ugly and you think im arguing for something even less detailed? Have you considered you are the one with a warped sense of aesthetics and not everyone else?

Considered "me" means "most people who play Morrowind in 2020" and "everyone else" means "people who don't play Morrowind": no, I don't think so.

 

[RNGsus]

Here's everything you need: open morrowind, intelligent textures, no frills open vivec and closed molag mar, solstheim eraser, dark brotherhood never attack, and that's it.

If you are adding anything else, its out of curiosity. And when you mod with openmw, you are doing it the right way. Not messing with the vanilla install directory.

 

[Funposter]

people seem really upset with Sigourn's screenshots which basically include nothing but the MGE depth of field effect and a grass mod. white suran is kind of a meme i guess.

 

[luj1]

That dude is right though, how did you manage to turn it into Oblivion? Something off with lighting and palette. My 2017 screenshots look better and more atmospheric than that.

 

[DraQ]

people seem really upset with Sigourn's screenshots which basically include nothing but the MGE depth of field effect and a grass mod. white suran is kind of a meme i guess.

Depth of field means that player in question needs to be punched in the eyes to readjust their vision as it's obviously not working properly.
If the problem persists they should see their ophthalmologist.

 

[RNGsus]

people seem really upset with Sigourn's screenshots which basically include nothing but the MGE

That's what's wrong.

 

[prengle]

people seem really upset with Sigourn's screenshots which basically include nothing but the MGE depth of field effect and a grass mod. white suran is kind of a meme i guess.

this is the codex, anything other than the original, launch day version 1.0 of a game running on authentic period era hardware is considered the absolute epitome of and if youre not playing said version youre a gay stupid little poo poo brainlet baby who isnt getting the AUTHENTIC [x] experience as the developers obviously intended. just ask lilura!

i think i actually remember people shitting on sigourns screenshots in this thread a few years ago and while, yes, depth of field is just a fucking nuisance when youre trying to actually play and enjoy any game ever (ive gone back and forth with it when modding morrowind myself), ive always thought morrowind was one of the few pc games from the late 90s and early 2000s that actually benefits from graphics mods of any kind, especially in the last few years now that most texture and model replacers are actually fairly tasteful and well made. ive lost interest in tinkering with the game again for the time being but its not 2006 anymore, we can (and have) done better than lady rae and shannon's gaudy low res texture mods from around then (theres something i really find appealing about old school morrowind mods, though.. but that's a blogpost for another, much less sleepy day)

 

[Funposter]

That dude is right though, how did you manage to turn it into Oblivion? Something off with lighting and palette. My 2017 screenshots look better and more atmospheric than that.

it's most likely the HDR effect from MGE which changes the colour balance somewhat due to the lighting adjustments.

people seem really upset with Sigourn's screenshots which basically include nothing but the MGE

That's what's wrong.

oh ok so you're autistic

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I'm inclined to agree re: new texture mods, although there are some stinkers, but I've covered that in previous posts in this thread. 90% of the model and texture replacers being released today are high quality, because the community is quite insular and obviously niche as the game is nearly twenty years old. Most people seem to have a good grasp of what looks good, and what is in-keeping with the original game's aesthetic while expanding upon it. I'd wager that the people complaining about mods are also the people playing the game the least, since after many hundreds of hours, you want to experience something new that is still within the original framework.

 

[Bigg Boss]

Since people are comparing screenshots.

 

[RNGsus]

Why do you people, if I can call you that, want to see across the damn country? You have utterly destroyed the game.

How your manlet crusader game should look:

 

[Sigourn]

people seem really upset with Sigourn's screenshots which basically include nothing but the MGE depth of field effect and a grass mod. white suran is kind of a meme i guess.

Some people want their 2002 game to look 2002 forever. I respect the opinon, but I don't share it.

 

[Sigourn]

Why do you people, if I can call you that, want to see across the damn country? You have utterly destroyed the game achieved that which Bethesda would have wanted but couldn't do in 2002.

Fixed that for you.

And yes, ridiculously high draw distances kill much of the game's exploration when you can see that Dwemer Ruin you are supposed to find your way to from miles away. The good thing is that it is all optional.

 

[RNGsus]

Why do you people, if I can call you that, want to see across the damn country? You have utterly destroyed the game achieved that which Bethesda would have wanted but couldn't do in 2002.

Who died and made you Todd?

 

[Bigg Boss]

You can add fog to that draw distance to even it out. Plus you can adjust it if you don't want to see Vivec from Seyda Neen. Why do people play the game like that? Because we have been playing it for over twenty years. Why do I mod hentai demons to fuck in Doom? Because I am bored.

We don't get this shit anymore.

 

[Metro]

Fixed that for you.

And yes, ridiculously high draw distances kill much of the game's exploration when you can see that Dwemer Ruin you are supposed to find your way to from miles away. The good thing is that it is all optional.

Granted tech limitations but I thought they also wanted it to disguise just how relatively small the world is when you have huge draw distances.

 

[luj1]

They used fog and terrain to make the world seem larger than it really was, and it turned out great. That's why I don't go overboard with draw distance.

 

[Bigg Boss]

World feels pretty small when I fly around with 200 Windform scrolls and 200 bottles of Sujamma.

 

[DraQ]

Why do you people, if I can call you that, want to see across the damn country? You have utterly destroyed the game achieved that which Bethesda would have wanted but couldn't do in 2002.

Fixed that for you.

Maybe they would have wanted that, but since they couldn't they decided to incorporate this limitation into the world design.

This is what you can and should do when using MGE distant land.
(And the screenshot itself is about a decade old)

World feels pretty small when I fly around with 200 Windform scrolls and 200 bottles of Sujamma.

What a brainlet manner of travel compared to spell or amulet of Daedalian Flight you devised yourself.

 

[Bigg Boss]

Windform works well enough in conjunction with teleporting and Silt Striders and boats. Mainly because I offloaded tons of loot to Enchanters so I had to buy a lot of scrolls to get my money's worth. I didn't need to mess with spells as much (waterwalk, invisible, summons) since I was loaded with scrolls. Next go around I plan on going full Mage. I made the mistake of not going Telvanni. I tried not to game the economy too much but it just came naturally and 10,000 a day is too slow to fuck with. I ended the game with 200,000 that I should have spent on enchanting some gear but I didn't need to. I'm a tight wad.

 

[Funposter]

Windform works well enough in conjunction with teleporting and Silt Striders and boats. Mainly because I offloaded tons of loot to Enchanters so I had to buy a lot of scrolls to get my money's worth. I didn't need to mess with spells as much (waterwalk, invisible, summons) since I was loaded with scrolls. Next go around I plan on going full Mage. I made the mistake of not going Telvanni. I tried not to game the economy too much but it just came naturally and 10,000 a day is too slow to fuck with. I ended the game with 200,000 that I should have spent on enchanting some gear but I didn't need to. I'm a tight wad.

If you don't want to break the economy on another go-around, I recommend MWSE Harder Barter, which I detailed earlier in this thread - https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.p...r-morrowind-thread.85809/page-76#post-6521623 It works especially well with the merchants added by the expansions and Tamriel Rebuilt. Sure, you can dry up a merchant's stock of 9,000 gold in a single day, but you're going to have to unload a metric shit-tonne of Daedric and Ebony weapons.

 

[Bigg Boss]

Tamriel Rebuilt fucked my entire install up somehow, so I am going with Morrowind Rebirth when I get this next game all lined out. I'm not sure how great it is, but some of the changes sound pretty good.

Yeah Harder Barter sounds pretty good now that I am looking at it.

 

[Funposter]

Tamriel Rebuilt fucked my entire install up somehow, so I am going with Morrowind Rebirth when I get this next game all lined out. I'm not sure how great it is, but some of the changes sound pretty good.

Rebirth is stinky because you're relying on the mod author's idea of "balance" which is usually dubious at best. It also has statue syndrome when it comes to decorating towns. There's some good ideas in there, but nothing that couldn't be replicated with modular, higher quality mods. Tamriel Rebuilt is easy to install and shouldn't create any problems. Are you using a mod manager?

 

[Bigg Boss]

Morrowind Mod Manager kept crashing at boot so I resorted to using Nexus to manage the load order while installing the mod manually. I got in game but texture errors popped up so I did the ini edit for the BSA. Then somehow it stopped working. I messed around with it some more after that but I just went ahead and uninstalled for a new playthrough. I'm not sure if the graphics enhancer botched it up or not.

That Rebirth mod appeals to me because there are a lot of little things in the game that bug me. I need to look through the list of changes before I actually do install it or I might try to get Tamriel Rebuilt working again. There aren't too many overhauls to work with so it kinda sucks. I don't like going through and adding 100 minor mods when they could all be rolled into one. Besides depending on how minor the change is I can mod a bit.