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Why is Gothic 2 considered much better than Risen?

Cryomancer

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I'm not sure how anyone could think Gothic 3 was better than Elex.

Magic has one of the most amazing magics ever. Mainly for Water and Dark Magicians. Elex in other hands, magic is worthless since a low level flamethrower is much better than anything that high berserk magic can do... Just like on G2 except that there are no ice block and goblin skeletons on Elex.

And IMO magic is exactly the weakest aspect of G2.

  1. because they lock you into fire magicians, despite Xardas teaching circle 6 on G1, he can't teach circle 1 on G2. And fire magicians are the most sissy type of magician, who send novices to die trying to get Eye of Innos, while they are confortable sleeping on their chairs. On G3, they stay on their rebel camps crying the lost of rune magic while dark magicians rule over cities with harems and water mages are trying to learn ancient magic on ruins.
  2. Some quests to become a fire magician makes no sense, like putting a guy to sleep to steal the "sacred" hammer. A novice who does that would be expelled not promoted.
  3. Offensive magic is trash. I as a servant of Innos was using ice block and goblin skeletons and din't bothered to learn a single fire spell except fire arrow who is a requirement to the trial of fire and fire rain on end game.
  4. You can learn how to cast army of darkness in the monastery... The same guys who hate Xardas from doing dark magic has nothing against the knowledge of the one of the most powerful dark magician spells being stored on the monastery of Innos. On G3, to learn this spell, you need to side with Beliar.

The unique aspect that G2's magic is superior to G3 is the lack of hard cap on summons AND the fact that some spells like Waterfirst doesn't exist on G3 BUT this spells are worthless due the fact that they make you ran out of mana before you can kill anything... Returning 2.0 IMO is the best mod for magicians. I loved to play as a necromancer returning.

TL;DR Magic is amazing on G1. Magic is amazing on G3. But on Elex, is trash.
 

Smoker

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Risen 1 had a game breaking bug near the end that some people had to console command there way to the next quest and it didn't always work.

Also wtf did they change the voice actor after 2.
 

Cryomancer

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Risen 1 has the worst boss fight ever. The sleeper temple on G1 and the Undead Dragon on G2 are OK. But a platforming boss on a ARPG... Why?
 

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