Where do they poop?

[FriendlyMerchant]

I've heard many people ask the question "what do they eat?" in regards to RPG area design. But I never heard anyone seriously ask the question "where do they poop and where does it end up?"

For Todd Howard specifically, why isn't a bathroom routine for the radiant AI in elder scrolls games so that I can assassinate my targets while they're in the one of the most embarrassing (definitely far behind being found hanging in your closet with a belt tied around your neck wearing woman's lingerie with your dick out though) ways to die? Why can't I learn their poop cycle so I can rob their house after spiking their diet without risk of interruption as the sound of their grunts overpowers the sound of my character's footsteps?

Why hasn't any developer done anything like this yet and worked it out mechanically so it can be exploited? Seems like a game selling feature to me.

 

[Dhaze]

This thread and the one titled "Where is innovation in new RPGs?' should be fused.

 

[Fedora Master]

Outer Worlds actually had a quest about a guy locked in a completely shat up toilet. Because that's the level of humor we're on now.

 

[Sykar]

Fallout 2:

 

[wishbonetail]

And that is why Fallout is the best game ever made.

 

[Lord_Potato]

In Elex while exploring you find a lot of toilets sometimes with some situational humor. Plus you can be a dick and steal all the toilet paper (which comes in 2 types: regular and extra smooth, even post-apocalypse is not without certain luxuries).

 

[lukaszek]

dos1-2 got those. Im a big fan of toilet related quests and there was a thread on codex about those already

 

[Inhabitants of Khorinis]

 

[Comte_II]

Got any Gail nudes?

 

[Inhabitants of Khorinis]

Got any Gail nudes?

I wish

 

[bionicman]

What a shitty thread...

 

[Galdred]

In Elex while exploring you find a lot of toilets sometimes with some situational humor. Plus you can be a dick and steal all the toilet paper (which comes in 2 types: regular and extra smooth, even post-apocalypse is not without certain luxuries).

The 2020 experiment made it obvious that toilet paper would be the hardest fought luxury in a post-apocalyptic world. That is what Fallout got wrong. Money would not be cola caps.

 

[Galdred]

We heard you, and you can now murder opponents in the latrines in Zodiac Legion.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Imperial City in Oblivion has sewers, but I can't remember if you actually see any toilets.

 

[NJClaw]

The Dungeon of Naheulbeuk is full of bathrooms.

In Solasta people just smear feces all over themselves and that's why they look like that.

 

[thesecret1]

I've heard many people ask the question "what do they eat?" in regards to RPG area design. But I never heard anyone seriously ask the question "where do they poop and where does it end up?"

Dan Vávra already called Skyrim out on it, and it's why you can find outhouses all over the place in Kingdom Come: Deliverance.

Anyway, this line of questioning usually attracts snide retards that go something like "You are wasting time with literal shit instead of making the game!" so most studios don't even bother. When GRRM (whatever you may think of his writing prowess) said LotR didn't deal with various practicalities of the setting (I believe the quote was "What was Aragorn's tax policy?" or something like that), trying to explain what he does differently in regards to worldbuilding compared to Tolkien, he instantly got ridiculed for it. So really, why even bother? People clearly prefer to have the setting full of cool but nonsensical shit, rather than having a self-consistent setting that deals even with the more mundane issues of the world.

 

[jackofshadows]

Underrail has them and that huge toilet in the zoners district contain XP, potential mugger and more. Expansion even provides opportunity to assasinate an officer in a military base's toilet in order to change into his uniform right there.

CP2077 also provides similiar opportunity (knock some guy out there and steal his vip card).

Arx Fatalis had them for sure although don't remember finding anything interesting related to them. Many other RPGs I'm sure, these just off the top of my head, maybe you just didn't paid attention until now?

I assume you're being ironic regarding selling feature but I think it's important enough. At least for any game that use the word immersive at any point for selling itself.

 

[Kruyurk]

Oxygen Not Included (a base building/colony sim) includes realistic poop gameplay (RPG). In it your characters need to have access to toilets or they end up pissing themselves. If they don't have access to a sink to wash their hands afterward (or if these little bastards skip that step) they can propagate germs which can lead to diseases. The wastes produced needs to be stored and processed with care, for example to avoid polluting your drinking water supply.

Obviously ONI is not an role playing game despite having this in-depth RPG layer. But such thing could be applied to a game like Kenshi, where you also build a base. Not washing after the business done could for example reduce your stealth ability, especially when trying to hide from the not so friendly fauna.

 

[Nortar]

"where do they poop and where does it end up?"

This conundrum in thoroughly explored in Dungeon of Naheulbeuk.
Each floor of the tower has at least one fully furnished WC, and the party holds a couple of insightful conversations on the very question you've asked.

 

[Cross]

I've heard many people ask the question "what do they eat?" in regards to RPG area design. But I never heard anyone seriously ask the question "where do they poop and where does it end up?"

Dan Vávra already called Skyrim out on it, and it's why you can find outhouses all over the place in Kingdom Come: Deliverance.

Anyway, this line of questioning usually attracts snide retards that go something like "You are wasting time with literal shit instead of making the game!" so most studios don't even bother. When GRRM (whatever you may think of his writing prowess) said LotR didn't deal with various practicalities of the setting (I believe the quote was "What was Aragorn's tax policy?" or something like that), trying to explain what he does differently in regards to worldbuilding compared to Tolkien, he instantly got ridiculed for it. So really, why even bother? People clearly prefer to have the setting full of cool but nonsensical shit, rather than having a self-consistent setting that deals even with the more mundane issues of the world.

He was ridiculed for good reason. That comment from GRRM is stupid on several levels. Aragorn is not a main character in The Lord of the Rings and the book isn't about his future reign as a king, it's about destroying the Ring. The book ends when Aragorn becomes king.

The main characters of The Lord of the Rings are the Hobbits, and the book describes in detail how society is structured in the Shire.

 

[Sotomonte]

In The Shadows over Riva, in the "dungeons" inhabited by humans (the city castle, the necromancer's tower, etc.) you could find their corresponding toilets.

 

[Technomancer]

Exanima has shitters on every level of the dungeon.

 

[JarlFrank]

It appears that most fantasy worlds are not modeled after Medieval Europe or the Middle East at all, despite having architecture and clothing aesthetics that look medieval with some influences from 1001 Nights for the more exotic locations.

No, the lack of toilets shows that most fantasy worlds are actually inspired by modern India.
There are no toilets because everyone uses the designated shitting street.

 

[SumDrunkGuy]

You can shit and piss in Weird West. It doesn't seem to serve any purpose but it's there. The NPCs also blow up the toilet from time to time. I will say it adds a certain element of authenticity to the game.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

Wouldn't wizards just create a butthole teleport vortex or DIMENSIONAL DEPENDS to piss/crap at leisure but the waste goes elsewhere? WARHAMMER 40K suits & tech games like probably recycle it. D&D games have pet miniature otyughs that lick your butthole clean. You can piss in their mouths like urinals or shit down their uh gullets. They enjoy that and might massage your ass with their tentacles.