KickStarter Underworld Ascendant is a disaster

[Curratum]

Yep, one is Sandro, the other is Dawnrazor. I think Dawnrazor was on the TTLG forums from way back in like 2001, had the same roman numeral appended to his name I believe.

 

[glass blackbird]

ascendant makes thief 4 look like a good sequel

 

[LESS T_T]

Which reminds me that Chris Siegel made fun of Thi4f few years ago. Oh.

 

[TemplarGR]

This is the downfall of the western video game industry.

AAA developers with the money to finance modern projects are so fucking greedy they only care about esports, virtual gambling, and microtransactions, and they have destroyed their artistic vision, while indie developers have to rely on crowdfunding and for more ambitious projects this just isn't enough and leads them to be forced to release alpha content masquerading as "release version"...

In the end, AAA developers are going down and indy creators are going down too, for different reasons. AAA has the polish but not the quality, indy has the quality but not the polish...

Fucking Capitalism ruining everything.

 

[Roguey]

Fucking Capitalism ruining everything.

These games wouldn't exist without capitalism.

 

[Lord_Potato]

Corporate greed ruins everything when it comes to AAA developpers.

Common greed and mismanagement do the same for indies.

In the case of Underworld Ascendant there seems to be neither quality, nor polish. But the same can be said about Fallout 76 or the crap produced by devs owned by Electronic Arts.

As Adam Smith would say, capitalism does not work properly without an ethical system to support it. If there is no ethics, just greed, it's going to shit.

 

[Gord]

Oh, the armchair anti-capitalism is strong here. Not that I dislike me some critique of the capitalist system, but when it's lacking the brians, it's just sounding stupid.

Thing is, I highly doubt that this has anything to do with greed, scamming people, Otherside being made of mustache-twirling, evul villains or any such things. The whole disaster comes down to a lack of talent, not having a clear and realistic vision giving the available funding and lacking the balls to call quits when it should have been clear that they would fail in their original ambition (i.e. at the latest when their additional funding vaporized).

 

[BlackGoat]

These games wouldn't exist without capitalism.

 

[Doctor Sbaitso]

Chris Siegel can't spell. Neither could their early lead engineer.

In retrospect my Spidey senses tingled when I saw the seniors on the project struggled to master their native language.

 

[BEvers]

Lore 2.0 is scheduled to enter development next week:

 

[Steamboat Willie]

It looks like that Save Game patch really turned this game around.

 

[Terenty]

Cant wait till Warren Spector shits the bed

 

[Nano]

He'll be shitting in our bed when he releases System Shock 3.

 

[Metro]

It looks like that Save Game patch really turned this game around.

Time for $1 tier in a bundle.

 

[Max Heap]

The way I experienced it they gotta give you money to play that.

It's just going to pull down the quality of the bundle with all its bugs.

 

[Bastardchops]

Fucking Capitalism ruining everything.

Just think of all the great games communism produced! All I can think of is Tetris.

 

[Max Heap]

Tetris only got big through the deal with Nintendo. The original version was a game that was passed around in soviet offices, much like Icy Tower and emulators spread through schools in the early 2000s.

Spoiler

 

[BEvers]

Progress continues.

 

[<3sRichardSimmons]

That comment reads like ransom collateral penned by someone suffering from Stockholm syndrome.

 

[RapineDel]

What's the goal here? The game is awful regardless of if they make these minor adjustments or fixes. Even if this game was somehow polished in a few months time sales are not going to increase. Anyone who bumps into it on Steam or are on the fence are still going to see highly negative reviews and won't bother.

They're better off listening to the feedback, starting from scratch on a small 3-4 hour game that's actually good (or at least good compared to UA) that actually appeals to Ultima Underworld fans and giving it away for free as an apology for anyone who owns/buys UA. Would surely create some good will and would give people on the fence at least a reason to give it a second look.

 

[ciox]

Holy heck, indeed.

 

[Efe]

they should fix it regardless and then could explore options like rebranding it , ala underworld:reborn, so they begin with a clean store page.
nobody makes a new game for free just to make an apology

 

[RapineDel]

they should fix it regardless and then could explore options like rebranding it , ala underworld:reborn, so they begin with a clean store page.
nobody makes a new game for free just to make an apology

I only meant free for people who already own UA. No one who already owns that game would buy anything new from them so no loss there and at least something new might have a chance of creating sales. Polishing a turd isn't going to do them any good.

 

[Terenty]

Maybe they made them fix UA indefenetely, so when SS3 comes out and people start pointing out how shit Otherside Studios is, Warren will proclaim its a completely different team.

 

[Child of Malkav]

According to the rumors (idk if they're true or confitcon) they didn't have money to pay the wages in the last 2 months or so.
And you're all talking about a new game, even a short one. They're broke, done. SS3 will save them but I don't think so. They won't recover after this extinction level cataclysm.