Tyranny + Bastard's Wound Expansion Thread

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Roguey]

so... am i missing something? Ai is very simplistic and doesnt cover custom spells. WHat I mostly wish for is having verse not change her stance...

Apparently I just made do with default AI. Can't speak for potd difficulty, but fine tuning isn't really necessary.

 

[Butter]

Never bothered with party AI in one of these games. Tyranny seems to warrant it least of all with only 4 party members.

 

[Roguey]

Never bothered with party AI in one of these games. Tyranny seems to warrant it least of all with only 4 party members.

4 party members with a bunch of cooldown-based abilities, similar to Dragon Age: Origins.

 

[skaraher]

The single most retarded quest in this game was the murder-inheritance plot with the lesbian couple in Lethian's crossing. Like one of the gay couple is the heir to the town, so by murdering her, her wife became the heir ? I don't think there is a single place in the multiverse where succession workd that way. Plus there is no outcome to this quest other than blindly attacking or just shrug and leave the culprit alone, even tho u're supposed to be some kind of all-powerful magistrate in conquered land. It reeked of unfinished design and mental retardation.

The story was not really engaging, lots of talk about what Kyros' law means for the land but you don't really get enough build up to really care about it either in a good or bad way.

Also the magic system isn't as good as the fans make it up to be, it's easy to see which abilities are better and just spam them like a regular cooldown fest.

 

[Roguey]

Like one of the gay couple is the heir to the town, so by murdering her, her wife became the heir ? I don't think there is a single place in the multiverse where succession workd that way.

Married partner gets dead married partner's land, makes sense to me. She married into it.

Plus there is no outcome to this quest other than blindly attacking or just shrug and leave the culprit alone, even tho u're supposed to be some kind of all-powerful magistrate in conquered land. It reeked of unfinished design and mental retardation.

As I recall, the choices are walk away, offer to kill the person she wants for money, or kill her. It's a minor sidequest that isn't available in every playthrough (I didn't even get the option to do it on my first go) so it wasn't worth devoting too much time to.

 

[skaraher]

Married partner gets dead married partner's land, makes sense to me. She married into it.

Never worked that way, the children inherit their parents property how would you become the new heir in a gay mariage, it is beyond retarded

 

[Roguey]

Never worked that way, the children inherit their parents property how would you become the new heir in a gay mariage, it is beyond retarded

In this particular region of Tyranny world, only women own property. Men own the ships of the sea. This is explained through NPCs.

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

Gays should not have the right to own property. Kinda like slaves.

 

[Arnust]

Never worked that way, the children inherit their parents property how would you become the new heir in a gay mariage, it is beyond retarded

In this particular region of Tyranny world, only women own property. Men own the ships of the sea. This is explained through NPCs.

It's explained as soon as of the character creation screen yeah, no excuse.

 

[Fedora Master]

It's almost as if Cucksidian put exactly 0 thought into how a bronze age culture would operate.

 

[DavidBVal]

I dunno, gimme a seaship over a house every time. Plus you can live on your ship far away from womynland if required.

 

[skaraher]

Never worked that way, the children inherit their parents property how would you become the new heir in a gay mariage, it is beyond retarded

In this particular region of Tyranny world, only women own property. Men own the ships of the sea. This is explained through NPCs.

It's explained as soon as of the character creation screen yeah, no excuse.

Enatic succession don't mean gay mariage is a thing, and surely don't mean you can inherit whole towns with a scam mariage. No society work that way. There is no way to expose the murderer, if you kill her, you lose reputation with the town. Tyranny prides itself in gritty EVUL EMPIRE with historical undertone, but it's just a SJWfest of power fantasies.

Also its "women inherit lol" isn't even coherent as the Regent line you fight in Stalwart is male.

 

[Kyl Von Kull]

It's almost as if Cucksidian put exactly 0 thought into how a bronze age culture would operate.

The whole premise is that men own ships and travel the world, while women own land because they stay home. Would think this particular piece of worldbuilding would be more popular here.

Anyway, it’s a high magic Bronze Age, who the fuck knows how that would work? With magical birth control and magical healing to lower infant mortality, you’d probably have a more egalitarian society along gender lines since women wouldn’t need to have like eight kids to ensure the population stays stable.

 

[skaraher]

It's almost as if Cucksidian put exactly 0 thought into how a bronze age culture would operate.

The whole premise is that men own ships and travel the world, while women own land because they stay home. Would think this particular piece of worldbuilding would be more popular here.

Anyway, it’s a high magic Bronze Age, who the fuck knows how that would work? With magical birth control and magical healing to lower infant mortality, you’d probably have a more egalitarian society along gender lines since women wouldn’t need to have like eight kids to ensure the population stays stable.

You don't see any ship in game and you see as many men than women in commanding military position. If this was supposed to be a super-coherent and subversive world building, they sure failed to show it in game. Hell Lethian's crossing is even headed by a male. The human community leaders of the Bastard's Wound ? All males. Stalwart regent ? Male. Stalwart unbroken commander ? Male. And in parallel you have retarded buzzcut fest, quests that don't make any sense like that one with the gay mariage inheritence one, it don't feel as a cohesive whole. Almost as if several writers were all working on small setpieces and not communicating a bit with eachoter. The only matriarchal part that feels remotely coherent and organic, and it's pretty isolated from the rest of the factions, is the beastwomen with their Prima.

 

[Kyl Von Kull]

It's almost as if Cucksidian put exactly 0 thought into how a bronze age culture would operate.

The whole premise is that men own ships and travel the world, while women own land because they stay home. Would think this particular piece of worldbuilding would be more popular here.

Anyway, it’s a high magic Bronze Age, who the fuck knows how that would work? With magical birth control and magical healing to lower infant mortality, you’d probably have a more egalitarian society along gender lines since women wouldn’t need to have like eight kids to ensure the population stays stable.

You don't see any ship in game and you see as many men than women in commanding military position. If this was supposed to be a super-coherent and subversive world building, they sure failed to show it in game. Hell Lethian's crossing is even headed by a male. The human community leaders of the Bastard's Wound ? All males. Stalwart regent ? Male. Stalwart unbroken commander ? Male. And in parallel you have retarded buzzcut fest, quests that don't make any sense like that one with the gay mariage inheritence one, it don't feel as a cohesive whole. Almost as if several writers were all working on small setpieces and not communicating a bit with eachoter. The only matriarchal part that feels remotely coherent and organic, and it's pretty isolated from the rest of the factions, is the beastwomen with their Prima.

Women owning all the real estate is not the same as women holding all the political power. Like, the woman who owns most of the land in Lethian’s Crossing is not the ruler of Lethian’s Crossing. No one says the Tiers are a matriarchal society. Eb also explains this in a lot more detail—in some places it’s more of a tradition than a rigidly enforced law.

If you do rebel run, you will notice there are a lot more female leaders among the rebels.

 

[Tigranes]

'Nobody ever inherited anything by marrying into it'

???????????????

 

[Arnust]

Inheritance for retards here and IRL: It's literally all priorities. It's just that it's the reverse as we usually do. That goddamn simple. Eb repeats it anyway;

Eb: "For centuries, it has been our way that the men own the ships but the women own the harbors. Our customs don't truly prevent ownership, they limit inheritance - lands pass to daughters then sisters then mothers and aunts. Ships pass to sons then brothers then fathers and uncles."

There also isn't really a mainstream sexist current as we know it outside of sometimes the Disfavored (whose leader's right hand is a woman) in their usual fascist bursts, and part of their remnants of resistance to Kyros as under them they have equal standing and protection. Ashe's niece is too a girl, as the rightful heir, so I'm not sure where you were getting at there.

Lethian's Crossing also doesn't really have a leader other than the one you set up in Conquest and later, it kinda defaults to the village elder but he doesn't really have any relevance. And the lesbian thing's pretty simple, that they have ownership of the territory doesn't mean they rule over it as Kyros' Law overrides any existing claims as it is convenient for the occupation.

For more relevant women idk lessay, Sirin, Occulted Jade, the aforementioned head logistician Iron Marshal, Verse, Eb, the Forger leader, Tarkis Arri and Matani Sybil, Lesbian 1, Fatebinder Calio, Vendrien's Queen (which alas you murder offscreen), Commander Elia- Idk lad there's a fair few if anything the gender politics angle could be more about those leading women proving faulty or incompetent often more than not being there at all in the first place.

 

[Zombra]

Should I grab Tyranny for $4? Note I never finished POE. Not sure my "fuel tank" for IE-style games really has a lot of vroom vroom. But I like them OK I guess.

 

[Efe]

it doesnt require much thought to play.
its perfectly fine for 4$

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Rahdulan]

Should I grab Tyranny for $4?

Yes. Thing is you kinda want the DLC because it fleshes out the game, specifically the loyalist route.

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Zombra]

it doesnt require much thought to play.
its perfectly fine for 4$

I guess the question isn't about the $4 but more about is it worth my time at all. Sounds like it's interesting enough to at least try. Thanks everyone.