Tomb Raider 2013

[Ermm]

Yup, and in next Metroid, Samus is going to have insecurity issues, and will act like a typical modern cliched anime chick.

Oh wait, it already happened.

 

[Metro]

The point is not how she looked then and how she looks now, it's the shift in terms of her presentation from some tough template chick that you couldn't care less about to a whiny entitled modern day bitch.

Everything these days has to be personalized and dramatized.

Next: Dark Souls 2 main protagonist getting dialog options, daddy issues and second thoughts when slaying dragons.

This. It's the Ken Levine effect. Liberal arts majors trying to make games something other than games: interactive movies/emotional experiences/other bullshit/etc. It's everywhere: Deus Ex HR, Spec Ops (extremely heavy handed there), and so on.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

So yes, Lara being impossibly beautiful was part of that.

That grotesque creature on screen in the first Tomb Raiders was all but beautiful.

Yeah, but what mattered was the idea that you were playing as a hot woman. Your imagination complemented the mess of pixels on the screen. Th'ts why the "nude cheat" was so popular.

Also once you had to go out and buy groceries and you thought everyone on the street looked like they came from Innsmouth, so your beauty standards are dubious at best

 

[Morgoth]

Also once you had to go out and buy groceries and you thought everyone on the street looked like they came from Innsmouth, so your beauty standards are dubious at best

 

[Awor Szurkrarz]

Also once you had to go out and buy groceries and you thought everyone on the street looked like they came from Innsmouth, so your beauty standards are dubious at best

It was just a one time occurrence. Maybe all the pretty people were busy somewhere.

 

[Brayko]

The point is not how she looked then and how she looks now, it's the shift in terms of her presentation from some tough template chick that you couldn't care less about to a whiny entitled modern day bitch.

Everything these days has to be personalized and dramatized.

Next: Dark Souls 2 main protagonist getting dialog options, daddy issues and second thoughts when slaying dragons.

This. It's the Ken Levine effect. Liberal arts majors trying to make games something other than games: interactive movies/emotional experiences/other bullshit/etc. It's everywhere: Deus Ex HR, Spec Ops (extremely heavy handed there), and so on.

You didn't even have the decency to mention Mass Effect and Dragon Age?

 

[tuluse]

All games must either be one long corridor or a huge boring open world.

No compromise even in the face of armageddon.

 

[DemonKing]

All games must either be one long corridor or a huge boring open world.

No compromise even in the face of armageddon.

The original Far Cry managed this quite well I thought - you had distinct "levels" cordoned off from each other but often the way in which you approached your objectives was completely up to you and the levels were large enough to provide sufficient scope for emergent gameplay. That was more than enough Open World for me.

 

[Commander Xbox]

This open world thing is ruining this industry and people keep thinking it's the greatest thing to ever bless the whole entertainment field. Open world implies a sense of continuity that kills the dynamism and variety of different levels without "physical connection". Look at the Thief games for a good example, its line of progression. A rich guy's castle, a prison, a tomb, chasing assassins, thieves guild, a crazy mansion... one after the other and without you having to roam through a map with the size of the soviet union filled with fake content. What's wrong with different stages anyway? Tomb Raider worked great as it was, why change such a basic element? It's not even a matter of keeping things consistent, it would help the designers, as they would focus on the places and objetives that truly matter to be in the game without having to worry about its surroundings.

i agree. open world is basically an excuse to replace content with scale. its bullshit

 

[shihonage]

I expect a ton of areas where you run in straight line and then kill that one tiger and then that one guy who you're supposed to kill, and then you fall off that cliff, and land in that spot of water, and then a cutscene kicks in of you being rescued and then it fades to black.

You wake up to being attacked and have to press E to kick the bear in the face, and it falls off the balcony. At which point you regain control but move slowly because you need to hear that radio transmission and nothing is guaranteed to happen for the next minute while it plays, but you're free to look at swaying trees and the waterfall.

Then you have a mission to go to a specific place and find that one thing, but on your way you have to kill these 2 guys and press E when that boulder chases you. You are knocked unconscious and then you wake up to being raped.

So does the franchise.

 

[Commander Xbox]

too bad noone gave a shit about tomb raider in the first place

 

[shihonage]

First they came for Tomb Raider, and I said nothing.

 

[Toffeli]

Not related, but I miss the one magazine. On the promotonial cd (and the on the cover) it said that Lara would have revealed everything. There wasn' even topless video of her. I've never felt so cheated. I think it was finnish PC Gamer.

Happened about 10 years ago.

 

[Menckenstein]

Maybe Lara will discover her sexuality and you will unlock an achievement called "UNCHARTED" LOL GET IT.

 

[Luzur]

So yes, Lara being impossibly beautiful was part of that.

That grotesque creature on screen in the first Tomb Raiders was all but beautiful.

Yeah, but what mattered was the idea that you were playing as a hot woman. Your imagination complemented the mess of pixels on the screen. Th'ts why the "nude cheat" was so popular.

Also once you had to go out and buy groceries and you thought everyone on the street looked like they came from Innsmouth, so your beauty standards are dubious at best

i remember when Tomb Raider came it got installed at school by someone and some guys kepts playing her "just to see her ass & tits and hear her moan when pushing blocks".

the rest of us kept playing Duke3D, Doom, Warcraft deathmatches.

and Wolfenstein.

 

[Morgoth]

http://www.shacknews.com/article/76885/tomb-raider-preview-the-first-two-hours

Sounds like it will be another standard 3rd person akshun-adventure with QTEs and inflated, artificial drama. That means, good for what it is for 75% off.

Spoiler

Don't you dare it Metro!

 

[spekkio]

So this shit has EXP points and upgradable skills?

ZOMG Codex cRPG 2013 GOTY!!1111!

 

[ColCol]

Get it, Get it, It's called Tomb Raider, but topic creator called it RAPER, what a word smith!

 

[shihonage]

when that boulder chases you

It was actually nice design in the old titles.
You pushed some lever and suddenly you heard that *bli bling* Tomb Raider sound and panicked... Trying to figure out how to fix the camera and where to run to...

It was one of the sequences in the old titles, where the vast majority of the game created a semi-convincing illusion of freedom.

But now, the boulder chasing you through a claustrophobic corridor will become a metaphor for the entirety of the new Tomb Raider.

Get it, Get it, It's called Tomb Raider, but topic creator called it RAPER, what a word smith!

Don't try so hard.

 

[ColCol]

Don't try so hard

Too late

 

[Morgoth]

New trailer: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/...kicked-in-the-latest-tomb-raider-trailer.aspx

"You can do it Lara! After all, you have great knockers"

 

[Metro]

It amazes me there are fans of the old TR games that actually defend this shit.

 

[ColCol]

Pathetic.

16-year old Core Design Lara dealt with ghosts and demons without whimpering like a little bitch.

Yeah, but for new Lara those were ptsd hallucinations brought on by the stress created from an attempted rape.

 

[Angthoron]

Pathetic.

16-year old Core Design Lara dealt with ghosts and demons without whimpering like a little bitch.

Welcome to pussyfication of the action hero(ine).

 

[Menckenstein]

The old tomb raider games were shit anyway, horrible fucking controls.