The PS5 and Xbox 2 thread - it's happening

[The Decline]

This all seems moot, the games that go for all the bells and whistles are going to be streamlined garbage anyway.

 

[Azdul]

Remember Larrabee cores are essential Pentium 1 cores. Without MMX.

Larrabee core has 4 times as much SSE execution units as I5 core - so it does have MMX, and plenty of it.

Contrary to popular belief, a single core that can run let's say at 4ghz, is better than 4 cores running at 1ghz each. Much better. There is no comparison, really, it is always best to have a single powerful core than more weaker cores, no matter the problem you want to solve.

For 95% of computational problems it's true. But when you have embarrassingly parallel problem, that can be divided into smaller chunks (single ray), and you have in-order architecture, so scheduling can be done at compilation time - it's better to have 5 cores at 1 Ghz than one core at 4 Ghz.

 

[tritosine2k]

Dream of every gamer... 64 core cpu, 63 used for RT.

Historically renderfarmers are cpu elitists against gpu wrt. rendering, and 63 is still "very pale"
Obviously it's not coming because image based methods aren't something to be superseded but complemented at most.

 

[Kem0sabe]

Apparently 75 euros is the retail price for new games in europe, disk games that is, which have traditionally been cheaper than the PS store. 80 euros for the digital version, even 75 for disk, is extremely expensive for a game.

 

[Jrpgfan]

I guess you could run raytraced Minecraft :D

I actually bought it for my daughter and decided to test the RTX beta.

It's surprisingly heavy.

Spoiler

 

[Villagkouras]

Apparently 75 euros is the retail price for new games in europe, disk games that is, which have traditionally been cheaper than the PS store. 80 euros for the digital version, even 75 for disk, is extremely expensive for a game.

OK, millions of people in all over the world lost their jobs and more can potentially lose them in winter if/when the second wave of coronavirus strikes, so what are we going to do? Let's increase the price of a non essential product by 25-30%.

 

[Kem0sabe]

OK, millions of people in all over the world lost their jobs and more can potentially lose them in winter if/when the second wave of coronavirus strikes, so what are we going to do? Let's increase the price of a non essential product by 25-30%.

I hope the new and more expensive consoles, as well as the incredibly priced new games that come out with them, fail to meet all sales expectations and consumers send a clear signal that raising prices way above inflammation in the midst of the worse economic crisis in recent memory is not only anti consumer but also immoral.

Sadly I don't think it will happen, people will get loans to finance their vices, parents will make unfair sacrifices to try and maintain a semblance of normalcy for their kids, and these fucking companies will laugh all the way to the bank.

 

[Toffeli]

Apparently 75 euros is the retail price for new games in europe, disk games that is, which have traditionally been cheaper than the PS store. 80 euros for the digital version, even 75 for disk, is extremely expensive for a game.

GTA 5, a game originally released in 2013, for a console two generations older, priced 75e.

Spoiler

And it will still sell at least a couple million more

 

[Markman]

Dont give a shit about prices anyway, there is still game pass and I got like 300 games on Xbone.
Till im done with enhanced titles and game pass additions most of the shit will be 50-75% off anyway.

Also if you missed it

 

[DalekFlay]

Apparently 75 euros is the retail price for new games in europe, disk games that is, which have traditionally been cheaper than the PS store. 80 euros for the digital version, even 75 for disk, is extremely expensive for a game.

The Spider-man thing is confirmed as an expansion or whatever, so I'd be very surprised if it's full price. That makes me question that ad.

 

[Taxnomore]

Wasn't GTA 5 supposed to be offered ?

 

[CrunchyHemorrhoids]

OK, millions of people in all over the world lost their jobs and more can potentially lose them in winter if/when the second wave of coronavirus strikes, so what are we going to do? Let's increase the price of a non essential product by 25-30%.

I hope the new and more expensive consoles, as well as the incredibly priced new games that come out with them, fail to meet all sales expectations and consumers send a clear signal that raising prices way above inflammation in the midst of the worse economic crisis in recent memory is not only anti consumer but also immoral.

Sadly I don't think it will happen, people will get loans to finance their vices, parents will make unfair sacrifices to try and maintain a semblance of normalcy for their kids, and these fucking companies will laugh all the way to the bank.

Game streaming services that offer a catalog of games for less than $20 a month should also see faster than expected growth.

 

[oddech_wymarlych_swiatow]

Is PS5 Perfect Cell at least?

 

[flyingjohn]

Digital only is so fun:


Pirates win again.

 

[Kem0sabe]

Apparently its confirmed that new PS5 games will cost 80 euros in europe.

https://www.amazon.es/Take-Two-Interactive-Spain-Playstation/dp/B08CBXXM57/

 

[JDR13]

Apparently its confirmed that new PS5 games will cost 80 euros in europe.

https://www.amazon.es/Take-Two-Interactive-Spain-Playstation/dp/B08CBXXM57/

Eh? That's approximately $90 Dollars. Ouch...

 

[cosmicray]

Lol, with the lack of regional prices akin to Steam it would even be more laughable in places like Russia/Brazil. 90$ fucking dollars.

 

[DalekFlay]

Eh? That's approximately $90 Dollars. Ouch...

They don't usually go by conversion rates, they go by local economies, so they'll likely be the same in dollars in the US.

 

[JDR13]

Eh? That's approximately $90 Dollars. Ouch...

They don't usually go by conversion rates, they go by local economies, so they'll likely be the same in dollars in the US.

I know. I was saying ouch for them not for us.

It's still a pretty big hike though no matter where you're at. I'm a little surprised because I was expecting $70 not $80. (Assuming this is actually the case.)

 

[AwesomeButton]

Congratulations! :D

 

[Markman]

Increased price hike is gonna make GamePass more popular.

Imagine you wanna play new Halo with some of your friends and all you need is any kind of PC or Xbox and a GamePass. Even a phone will do in a year or two. No purchase needed for a new X or anyone buying the game at full price.
If Microsoft opens their wallet even more for some popular 3rd party releases to include them on day one its gonna be hard to compete.
Sneaky motherfuckers.

 

[TemplarGR]

Increased price hike is gonna make GamePass more popular.

Imagine you wanna play new Halo with some of your friends and all you need is any kind of PC or Xbox and a GamePass. Even a phone will do in a year or two. No purchase needed for a new X or anyone buying the game at full price.
If Microsoft opens their wallet even more for some popular 3rd party releases to include them on day one its gonna be hard to compete.
Sneaky motherfuckers.

I have a Linux machine that is kinda weak on the gaming side but i also have a decent internet connection at 100Mbps. I am really beginning to look into streaming services. When i look at how much expensive is to upgrade my machine for next gen AAA titles, and how cheap streaming is, if it is decent without lags i think it's a no-brainer

 

[tritosine2k]

High bitrate streaming is not a thing but TAA kinda kills detail anyway so what's left is scrambled by coder that cannot deal with noise like stuff (even simple grass) and produces an ugly smear across multiple frames.
Maybe with high bitrate this could be solved by making a coder that f*cks off around noise like stuff and you even get it to f*ck off by applying such nearly imperceptible noise. AFAIK this can be done with mp3.

 

[Markman]

Ive had xCloud access for a few months now and from my experience it needs a rock solid connection to work properly especially on wi-fi.

Same app includes even console streaming, mirrors my home Xbox so if someone else is occupying TV you can play on wherever you got the app installed, phone, PC or tablet.
Still not perfect tho, input lag is actually good when stream works as it should. Doesnt let me play back compat titles for some reason.

XCloud works better and more stable on 3G/4G for some reason than on my wi-fi. Barely any hitches and it sucks like 2 gb of data per hour.

Its super nice if you play something like Civ6, Lego and some other slower shit but on 60 fps twitch racers or shooters there are noticable hitches.

 

[mk0]

YouTube is objectively the best gaming platform. It's free, it works on all devices with up to 4k60fps quality and you get to sit back and relax while the games play themselves, what more could a modern AAA gamer ask for?