The PS5 and Xbox 2 thread - it's happening

[Venser]

I hate PS4 UI and this is pretty much the same shit. I hope we could at least check how many hours we put into certain games (like on Steam). I can't believe PS4 doesn't have such basic feature.

 

[fantadomat]

So this will be the final peasant war then. Xbox could assrip sony with their no exclusive policies,if they swarm it with a shitton of games.

 

[DalekFlay]

Digital Foundry posted pics of the back of the Series X prototype. Looks like it will have an expansion slot for more of the fast SSD storage. No display port.

 

[Makabb]

Naughty Dog with a big claim

 

[Morgoth]

Microsoft reveals some official specs:





Yo your turn now Sony.

 

[Venser]

"120 FPS support"

What does that even mean lol. 120HZ?

 

[Venser]

I know but FPS is game dependant so if the game doesn't require much power, it can run on 900FPS.

 

[sullynathan]

I know but FPS is game dependant so if the game doesn't require much power, it can run on 900FPS.

When Sony allowed Boost mode on the PS4, Rainbow six siege initially ran at something like 100 - 200 fps at times before being patched. Possible, but I'm sure devs would think about this.

 

[Morgoth]

That's why it supports VRR (aka Freesynch/G-sync) but with an upper 120 Hz cap.

 

[sullynathan]

 

[DalekFlay]

"120 FPS support"

What does that even mean lol. 120HZ?

Though I'm sure games will still target 30fps or 60 on the outside, it does help to have 120hz support for frame-times and whatnot. Dark Souls Remastered on PC for example has an option for 144hz monitors, despite being capped at 60fps.

 

[soulburner]

The only substantial thing from this info release is the first official confirmation of the GPU being based on the RDNA 2 architecture. "Freezing" games' states to disk as a form of saving sounds interesting. All other info is not detailed enough to be interesting at all and those teraflops mean shit in actual performance of real world games. Require further data.

 

[Makabb]

 

[sullynathan]

Makabb vindicated?

 

[Morgoth]

https://wccftech.com/xbox-series-s-lockhart-details/

Xbox Series S / Lockhart Details To Be Revealed Soon; Console Will Be Priced At Around $300 – Rumor
By Francesco De Meo
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The Xbox Series S, also known by the codename Lockhart, is apparently going to be revealed soon.

Dealer Gaming revealed today that Microsoft is going to share the first details very soon, giving insight into the multi SKU approach to the next generation. Dealer Gaming also suggests that the console will be priced at around $300, which would be an excellent price for a next-generation console that is said to be more powerful than the Xbox One X.



The Xbox Series S, or Lockhart, has been rumored to be in the works for a while. Originally, it seemed like Microsoft stopped working on the console to focus on the Xbox Series X, but it has been later said that the development of the system started again.

Back in January, a new AMD APU has been discovered, and some suggested it could be the Xbox Series S APU. It features eight cores Ryzen CPU clocked at 4.0 GHz and 16 GB memory shared between RAM and VRAM - 12 GB RAM and 4 GB VRAM. GPU details are not available.

The Xbox Series X launches later this year worldwide. We will keep you updated on both the Xbox Series S and Series X as soon as more come in on them, so stay tuned for all the latest news.

 

[DalekFlay]

So not only will all the games be designed around working on the original Xbox One for a couple years, even after that they will be designed to run on a $300 machine from 2020? Great. All that power in the "Series X" is just going to be used for 4k resolution, and not much else.

 

[Makabb]

Both consoles are confirmed to have ZEN 2 cpu / RDNA 2 gpu

 

[Makabb]

So not only will all the games be designed around working on the original Xbox One for a couple years, even after that they will be designed to run on a $300 machine from 2020? Great. All that power in the "Series X" is just going to be used for 4k resolution, and not much else.

Both consoles will have the same ssd, ram ammount and CPU - which is a 8 core/16t 4.0 ghz CPU in a friggin console.......the only difference is the GPU, ofcourse the stronger one will be used only for 4k and maybe some extra effects.

 

[Morgoth]

So not only will all the games be designed around working on the original Xbox One for a couple years, even after that they will be designed to run on a $300 machine from 2020? Great. All that power in the "Series X" is just going to be used for 4k resolution, and not much else.

Law of diminishing returns. Gotta sell you those Teraflops so that devs can burn it on shiny shit like 4K and Raytracing.

Never mind bothering about designing and coding games well.

 

[Makabb]

So not only will all the games be designed around working on the original Xbox One for a couple years, even after that they will be designed to run on a $300 machine from 2020? Great. All that power in the "Series X" is just going to be used for 4k resolution, and not much else.

Law of diminishing returns. Gotta sell you those Teraflops so that devs can burn it on shiny shit like 4K and Raytracing.

Never mind bothering about designing and coding games well.

It's nice that you two neglect the fact that the main increase in power in new consoles come from the CPU, which is 8 times faster than previous gen of consoles.

If the current ps4/xbox games run on a laptop cpu from 2008, imagine what new gen will do.

Something which on PC was not seen since early 2010's and is not possible anymore.

 

[Morgoth]

And most of that CPU power will be blown by lazy shit like destructable physics and other generic simulations that bear no significance to a better experience. It will rarely translate into more compelling game design, 'cause that's actually hard to do, and the industry is shying away from real innovation.

This generation has shown to be more of the same, it will be the same with the next, only prettier.

 

[Makabb]

This generation has shown to be more of the same, it will be the same with the next, only prettier.

And what the hell do you expect? Having more NPCs, bigger crowds, longer draw distances, non loading worlds etc is already a lot.

These are games and not some simulations of god knows what, have some realistic expectations.

 

[Morgoth]

This generation has shown to be more of the same, it will be the same with the next, only prettier.

Having more NPCs, bigger crowds, longer draw distances,

*yaaaaaaaaaaawn*

non loading worlds etc is already a lot.

Granted, that's the only good thing coming from these new consoles so far.

 

[Gerrard]

Yeah, it will have a 4GHz CPU on shitty console cooling and a 300W PSU.
I kind of hope for that to be true just to see the fires.

 

[Makabb]

Yeah, it will have a 4GHz CPU on shitty console cooling and a 300W PSU.
I kind of hope for that to be true just to see the fires.

zen 2 is like 70 watts, RDNA 2 consumes 50% less electricity, which means that a 12tflop GPU is able to run on 140 watts, that's 200W.

also both ms and sony will have 3rd party or patented cooling this time.