The Outer Worlds Pre-Release Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Terenty]

I knew the game is literally unplayable

 

[Dishonoredbr]

The Epic battle against a single maraunder continues in the The Outer Worlds.

 

[Roguey]

I feel so blessed I totally get to play the sequel to New Vegas like one year after playing it for the first time!!!

Points for making the effort to be consistent.

Only "white" person is a Med, figures.

She's a gay pajeeta. Buuuuut to share a meme posted by the late, great Wyrmlord https://twitter.com/PraticOslo/status/1125006577512210437

 

[Theophrastus]

Vice (unsurprisingly) joins in the *Game wasn't anti-corporate/racist/whatever* crowd

Despite the corporate dystopia, it retains Fallout’s “gotta hear both sides” emphasis on player freedom and choice: Sure, you can “yeet the rich,” but the game is just as willing to let you shut down an environmentalist commune and shuffle the folks therein back under the corporate yoke if that’s the sort of asshole you wanna be.

(In fact, one of The Outer World’s most jarring attributes is the way the political frame in dialog options shifts from quest to quest and world to world. A variety of choices are always available (as is outright violence), but the range of dialog options offered is inconsistent. Sometimes, as in the opening quest which lets you de-power an entire corporate settlement, your character can inhabit a burn the corps down, let’s dance in the flames radical mode. Other times, its as if a different writer has picked up the pen, offering your character only resignation (or even naivety) as their most anti-capitalist tone. On the planet of Monarch, where one corp is trying to enact incremental reforms, I found myself rolling my eyes as my character seemed suddenly befuddled that the Corporate Board might break its own rules.

How dare the game look at both sides. MUUUUUUUH POLITICS. Probably would only be satisfied if you have LESS choices. All radical anti-corporate of course.

It's by Austin fucking Walker as well.

That's clearly not the criticism though, is it. The review criticizes the lack of consistency which leads to a lack of choice. Sometimes you can be radical, sometimes you only have resignation. It seems like a fair criticism, why shouldn't we have the choice to have a consistently radical position if we're allowed to literally murder everyone in the game?

 

[ShadowSpectre]

The controller gameplay in the Twitch stream is seriously aids. PC master race requires a mouse, please.

 

[Nano]

Points for making the effort to be consistent.

Sailor Woedica isn't a troll, I don't care what any of you say.

 

[Duraframe300]

Vice (unsurprisingly) joins in the *Game wasn't anti-corporate/racist/whatever* crowd

Despite the corporate dystopia, it retains Fallout’s “gotta hear both sides” emphasis on player freedom and choice: Sure, you can “yeet the rich,” but the game is just as willing to let you shut down an environmentalist commune and shuffle the folks therein back under the corporate yoke if that’s the sort of asshole you wanna be.

(In fact, one of The Outer World’s most jarring attributes is the way the political frame in dialog options shifts from quest to quest and world to world. A variety of choices are always available (as is outright violence), but the range of dialog options offered is inconsistent. Sometimes, as in the opening quest which lets you de-power an entire corporate settlement, your character can inhabit a burn the corps down, let’s dance in the flames radical mode. Other times, its as if a different writer has picked up the pen, offering your character only resignation (or even naivety) as their most anti-capitalist tone. On the planet of Monarch, where one corp is trying to enact incremental reforms, I found myself rolling my eyes as my character seemed suddenly befuddled that the Corporate Board might break its own rules.

How dare the game look at both sides. MUUUUUUUH POLITICS. Probably would only be satisfied if you have LESS choices. All radical anti-corporate of course.

It's by Austin fucking Walker as well.

That's clearly not the criticism though, is it. The review criticizes the lack of consistency which leads to a lack of choice. Sometimes you can be radical, sometimes you only have resignation. It seems like a fair criticism, why shouldn't we have the choice to have a consistently radical position if we're allowed to literally murder everyone in the game?

It is, because its from the perspective of someone that constantly does the preachy thing. If it doesn't conform what he think it should its *tonally inconsistent*.
(Austin Walker actually hates capitalism btw.)

That said I have a clear bias towards him and VICE which I admit myself. So, your mileage may vary. Was wrong to make that a big deal anyway.

 

[Cholo]

reviews look bad, quests look like babbys first ethics textbook, shooting looks worse than f2p games like destiny 2... idk what I was expecting but this is pretty rough!

 

[Duraframe300]

Chat/Twitch System has broken. Forward/Directions doesn't seem to work anymore.

Edit: Works again.

 

[AW8]

Steam is DRM.

Yeah Steam IS DRM

Not by default. Steam's DRM is an optional component that developers can use (admittedly, most do).

Here's a list of games that don't use the DRM: https://steam.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games

since you have to be online and all that shit to play.

You don't, you can start Steam in offline mode. Although in practice I rarely get Steam to start without an internet connection due to bugs where it tries to reach the Steam servers and update first.

 

[Nano]

Although in practice I rarely get Steam to start without an internet connection due to bugs where it tries to reach the Steam servers and update first.

"Bugs".

 

[Alienman]

What the hell are they doing in that stream? First time playing a video game or something?

Edit:

Aha, the fucking chat plays the game. I thought someone was having a stroke and fell over the controls.

 

[AW8]

"Bugs".

A software bug is an error, flaw, failure or fault in a computer program or system that causes it to produce an incorrect or unexpected result, or to behave in unintended ways.

Currently I can't start offline mode which I believe is due to an update that refuses to install, but I've had problems with it since back in 2011 (then the problem seemed to be that Steam had detected a pending update but not downloaded it, and then refusing to start in offline mode until the pending update had been installed).

GFWL was utter garbage but at least it always allowed me to start games in offline mode flawlessly.

Or are you insinuating that Valve fucks up offline mode on purpose?

What the hell are they doing in that stream? First time playing a video game or something?

Viewers' chat comments control the character. It was pretty fun back in Twitch Plays Pokemon, but a first-person shooter is too fast for it to be fun.

 

[Nano]

Or are you insinuating that Valve fucks up offline mode on purpose?

Of course I am. The bug was present when I was using Steam for a brief time in 2015, if Valve still hasn't bothered to fix something so basic then it's obvious what's going on here.

 

[AW8]

Of course I am. The bug was present when I was using Steam for a brief time in 2015, if Valve still hasn't bothered to fix something so basic then it's obvious what's going on here.

Your Deus Ex avatar clouds your judgement. It's not a conspiracy, the answer instead follows the theme of this thread: Corporations care only for profit. And I don't think enough people care about offline mode that Valve would make money from fixing it.

 

[Jenkem]

if the outer worlds is new vegas 2 does that mean that the house ending is canon?

 

[DalekFlay]

Of course I am. The bug was present when I was using Steam for a brief time in 2015, if Valve still hasn't bothered to fix something so basic then it's obvious what's going on here.

I volunteered overseas in 2012 and before I left I installed a bunch of games on my laptop and put Steam in offline mode. They all launched and ran fine the whole year. Steam had offline issues early on, but hasn't anytime recently in my experience. That said I do buy from GOG whenever possible just because DRM free is better.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

Some really nice loading screen poster that reflect your actions on Monarch!

Spoiler

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

Has anybody who is not from California play/review this game yet? Would you use the word "safe" to describe TOW?

 

[Dishonoredbr]

Has anybody who is not from California play/review this game yet? Would you use the word "safe" to describe TOW?

There's quite a bit of french and german reviews out there. All 8s prasing writting, quest design and artstyle.

 

[Yosharian]

Steam loads easily in offline mode if you set it to offline mode before losing your internet connection. If you do that, it won't try to update at all.

 

[Quillon]

Has anybody who is not from California play/review this game yet? Would you use the word "safe" to describe TOW?

I would use "safe" to describe PoE & PoE2 but not for sjw political shit, the devs there just don't wanna add complicated systems/quests cos they tend to be buggier; meaning a quest like Beyond the Beef(tm) would be deemed too complicated and unworthy of commitment in a Josh Sawyer game these years, I wonder how it is in a Cainarsky game tho.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

Giant Bomb thoughts about the game ( starts at 16:17):

 

[rusty_shackleford]

the vice review is a butthurt goldmine that basically boils down to
"how dare you have options! I demand a linear pro-communist story!"