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The New DOOM Thread (2016)

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Which is fine, it's supposed to be weak and replaced asap.
 
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Excidium II said:
Which is fine, it's supposed to be weak and replaced asap.
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I dunno, seems kinda silly to me. The only level where you'll ever use the pistol is E01M01. In later episodes they start you off with a shotty or another gun so that you don't have to touch the godawful pistol.
 
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The concept of a strictly inferior starting weapon has more meaning in multiplayer games where you spawn with it every time you die.
 
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Infinitron said:
The concept of a strictly inferior starting weapon has more meaning in multiplayer games where you spawn with it every time you die.
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Don't agree on that.

If you don't have fallback weapon in case of ammo shortage it means that whole ammo supply mechanic goes out of window.

Point of weak weapon is not to be shitty weapon. It is reminder that you should use your ammo efficiently because if you won't you will play most of your game with shit weapon in hand.

On other hand if you have too strong starting weapon then new weapons feel like sidegrades rather than upgrades. Especially those that are not situational.
 
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The pistol is shite because it was meant to be the starting weapon so the player would be forced to look around the levels for weapons. The chaingun exists to replace the pistol completely since the chaingun is superior in all aspects and shares the same ammo pool with the pistol. All maps in Doom were designed with pistol starts in mind, Petersen once remarked that being able to keep your weapons between levels made the game too easy. Your fallback weapon is your chainsaw/fists, not pistol.
 
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The faggot even managed to ruin Suspence:

 
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