The Last Of Us 2 - now with protagonist-murdering trannies

[HEKE]

The hilarious side effect of aggressive automated copyright striking: Sony/Naughty Dog DMCA'd themselves.

 

[toro]

On top of that mass producing the cure is something entirely different, so I'd say the chances of her death serving a practical purpose are very low.

I just rewatched the leaked footage. In the game's opening, Joel is telling Tommy what happened at the hospital. He says: "Because of her, they were actually gonna make a cure".

That's a retcon. Fireflies weren't sure about that at the end of Tlou1.

 

[Vault Dweller]

On top of that mass producing the cure is something entirely different, so I'd say the chances of her death serving a practical purpose are very low.

I just rewatched the leaked footage. In the game's opening, Joel is telling Tommy what happened at the hospital. He says: "Because of her, they were actually gonna make a cure".

And in Fallout 2 we learn that vaults were a social experiment.

 

[Alienman]

Youtube pranksters ran Vault Tec.

 

[Danikas]

And in Fallout 2 we learn that vaults were a social experiment.

Dr. Stranglove plan > Enclave plan

 

[ZVERMIX]

On top of that mass producing the cure is something entirely different, so I'd say the chances of her death serving a practical purpose are very low.

I just rewatched the leaked footage. In the game's opening, Joel is telling Tommy what happened at the hospital. He says: "Because of her, they were actually gonna make a cure".

And in Fallout 2 we learn that vaults were a social experiment.

Can you point to a single piece of info that at least hints at Joel's choice being influenced by practicalities of cure production? Any line of dialogue or journal?
What I remember is this: when Marlene tells Joel that they have to kill Ellie for the cure, he doesn't express any doubt about cure production. He says "Find another" (immune person). He's fine with another (possibly) kid dying for the cure, just not 'his' kid.
All of the dialogue and story background (Sarah, their struggle together etc.) tells us he is just too attached to her, so that cure doesn't matter to him.

 

[Vault Dweller]

Can you point to a single piece of info that at least hints at Joel's choice being influenced by practicalities of cure production? Any line of dialogue or journal?

I'm commenting on the premise itself. Look at the current pandemic. We have the best biotech companies locked in a race to produce the cure and make billions. They have the funds, the equipment, and the motivation, but no vaccine or cure in sight because it's not that easy. These things take many years if not decades and the outcome is far from certain. We discovered that llamas produce antibodies that block the virus from entering cells 4 years ago. Still no vaccine because engineering these antibodies isn't easy even if you have nearly unlimited resources.

 

[cvv]

The age old question - would you sacrifice someone to save millions? Even the entire humanity? Even for a chance to do that.

Our philosophy professor's favourite mind tease was "The aliens land and demand one specific person to be sacrificed in a blood ritual, or they destroy the Earth. Now 7 billion people can vote. Estimate the result."

 

[OctavianRomulus]

What a goddamn shame. They have such incredible artists working at Naughty Dog. I haven't played their games but their art is incredible. Imagine crunching on this game, knowing your company can do so much better but it's infested by SJW agenda. I'd become jaded pretty quickly.

 

[KVVRR]

The age old question - would you sacrifice someone to save millions? Even the entire humanity? Even for a chance to do that.

Our philosophy professor's favourite mind tease was "The aliens land and demand one specific person to be sacrificed in a blood ritual, or they destroy the Earth. Now 7 billion people can vote. Estimate the result."

Vote for what, whether we should kill someone for the good of us all or for who should be inmediatedly executed? 'cause there's no way people won't just murder someone to save earth. possibly someone really famous yet hated. Afterwards the aliens would even be praised as heros.

anyhow there's really no way the fireflies could ever fabricate and distribute a cure.

 

[Olinser]

The age old question - would you sacrifice someone to save millions? Even the entire humanity? Even for a chance to do that.

Our philosophy professor's favourite mind tease was "The aliens land and demand one specific person to be sacrificed in a blood ritual, or they destroy the Earth. Now 7 billion people can vote. Estimate the result."

That's not what was presented though. The credibility of the person making the offer has a HUGE impact on the decision.

If Bill Gates and Elon Musk approach you together and say that they are confident that dissecting your kid would cure cancer, a lot of people would at least consider it.

If a drunk hobo approaches you and says the same thing, NOBODY would consider it for a second.

These idiots are the drunk hobos. They demonstrated absolutely nothing to convince them that they could actually make the alleged cure. So you're not weighing a life against a cure. You're weighing a life against a CHANCE that they can make the cure, and their organization simply doesn't inspire the confidence necessary to let them kill Ellie, ESPECIALLY since they seem to have made absolutely no attempt to get the samples they needed non-lethally.

 

[toro]

The age old question - would you sacrifice someone to save millions? Even the entire humanity? Even for a chance to do that.

Our philosophy professor's favourite mind tease was "The aliens land and demand one specific person to be sacrificed in a blood ritual, or they destroy the Earth. Now 7 billion people can vote. Estimate the result."

Are you for real!? There are people which would like to check out and then there is Xi Jinping.

Also I would vote for Hillary in a heart beat. Also Merkel ... I'm aroused by all the possibilities

Your philosophy professor was a retard. Don't be like him.

 

[Infinitron]

 

[Decado]

lol. who knew there were just so many ladies walking around in the wasteland, waiting to be killed by a 19 year old girl.

edit: was the demo player using aim assist? because it looked like it to me.

 

[MapMan]

Looks like U4 asset flip in parts. I could spot reused models and animations but whatever. My fear is that it'll play more like Uncharted than TLoU. Also this gen is aging fast now.

 

[vota DC]

I just rewatched the leaked footage. In the game's opening, Joel is telling Tommy what happened at the hospital. He says: "Because of her, they were actually gonna make a cure".
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Still vaccine for a fungus sounds suspicious, and the faction that propose it unlike military or random scavengers is famous for being sadist liars without purpose except to spread lies and disorder for the sake of it.
It reminds me some new retcon about pacifist Hitler wanting only a glass of juice.

 

[KVVRR]

I just rewatched the leaked footage. In the game's opening, Joel is telling Tommy what happened at the hospital. He says: "Because of her, they were actually gonna make a cure".
.

Still vaccine for a fungus sounds suspicious, and the faction that propose it unlike military or random scavengers is famous for being sadist liars without purpose except to spread lies and disorder for the sake of it.
It reminds me some new retcon about pacifist Hitler wanting only a glass of juice.

Do they want to make a vaccine or a cure? Because I remember the word "cure" being thrown around a lot more.

 

[sullynathan]

Looks like U4 asset flip in parts. I could spot reused models and animations but whatever. My fear is that it'll play more like Uncharted than TLoU. Also this gen is aging fast now.

This gen ends in about 4 months

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

Indeed, except for I simplified the choice (do you let them kill the girl for a *chance* to get the cure or not) and you simplified the narrative (a deranged man kills scientists working on a cure).

Your entire analogy with the context is completely off, in order for that choice to be a real moral conundrum it SHOULD be presented without any emotional attachment to any party involved.

I'll literally draw a picture:

THIS is an actual moral quandary. Now imagine you start polluting it with moving background stories about that dude on the right or the chick by the lever. You'd turn this into a fucking eintopf, clouding and muddying everything with feelz.

Can I ask the lone guy to move with the others, so there's no need for second trolley?

 

[Kem0sabe]

Watched the gameplay video, these people over at ND are sick fucks, the game looks like a snuff film... They glorify violence, despair and mutilation in every detail, like we should be impressed with it.

 

[Cross]

Looks like U4 asset flip in parts. I could spot reused models and animations but whatever. My fear is that it'll play more like Uncharted than TLoU. Also this gen is aging fast now.

This gen ends in about 4 months

More like 4 years. Most games will be cross-gen for quite a while.

 

[AdamReith]

Watched the gameplay video, these people over at ND are sick fucks, the game looks like a snuff film... They glorify violence, despair and mutilation in every detail, like we should be impressed with it.

100% agree, I love stylised violence usually but this is some sick sadistic shit.

It probably just comes down to desensitization but people need to take a look at themselves and stop exposing themselves to such extreme numbing material.

 

[TheHeroOfTime]

Tbh game looks pretty decent.

 

[KVVRR]

 

[sullynathan]

Watched the gameplay video, these people over at ND are sick fucks, the game looks like a snuff film... They glorify violence, despair and mutilation in every detail, like we should be impressed with it.

If it feels sadistic then they're doing their job right.

More like 4 years. Most games will be cross-gen for quite a while.

That's besides the point