The Dragon Age: Inquisition Thread

[Wulfric Pinewood]

Yep, right...

By all means, keep telling us what great novelist Gaidar is.

You can't say he don't have talent for writing. I bought and read his 3 books after so much shit on him here on codex, becouse i was just curious. And i must say he know how to write and as for fantasy standards his books are really good. Not very high level but at least good, especially for books set in game universe [nowhere near crappy books for BG etc.]. So at least he deserves some respect.

 

[Haba]

Yep, right...

By all means, keep telling us what great novelist Gaidar is.

his books are really good [--] least he deserves some respect.

“Loghain shook his head in disbelief. "Maker's breath, man, aren't you suppose to have some dignity? Somewhere?"
"Me? Dignity?"
"Being the supposed future King and such."
"I think Rowan took my dignity."
She snorted derisively, folding her arms. "There was nothing else worth having.”


“That's the claim. The Arl and the Prince, both killed at West Hill." she glanced at Maric, crooking one corner of her mouth in grim amusement. "Apparently your body was not distinguishable from those of regular Fereldan men and thus couldn't be found, according to the usurper."
"Well that's just rude.”


“Nicolas walked toward him. Ignoring the presence of the others nearby, he took Julien's chin in his hand and kissed him tenderly on the lips. Julien seemed chagrined at first, and then accepted the gesture. It was sweet, and had the air of a couple that had been together for a great long time.
Maric glanced away, embarrased by the intimacy, not to mention the fact that he hadn't quite realized the nature of the two warriors' relationship ealier. Not just comrades, then, and far more than close friend. The older Grey Wardens seemed unsurprised.”


“Shale’s answers were, for the most part, sarcastic. When asked what kind of rock it consisted of, Shale answered “petrified nug droppings.” When asked how it was created, Shale responded with a long explanation of mother golems and father golems which Pharamond believed for five whole minutes. When asked how it could see through those points of lights in its eye sockets, Shale commented that it actually preferred tearing the eyeballs out of flesh creatures and using them instead—elven ones in particular.”


“Perhaps this was what Queens did. Perhaps they held their Kings in the darkness, deep within their castles and allowed them that moment of weakness they could never show to anyone else. Perhaps they gave strength to their Kings, because everyone else only took it from them.”

 

[Necroscope]

Hey guys I haven't been following the game, only just seen this trailer:



Is the whole game like this? If so imma grab the torrent.

A part of me died while watching this vid, my life will never be the same anymore...

 

[Wulfric Pinewood]

Typical codex arguments... . Hehehe, have fun kiddos, going back to play DA:I now and Xulima next, after that some time in Bloodlines and Ultima, love the free days. Hold on tight on the toilet. More crap is coming for sure, it's Bioware thread anyway.

 

[Necroscope]

Typical codex arguments... . Hehehe, have fun kiddos, going back to play DA:I now and Xulima next, after that some time in Bloodlines and Ultima, love the free days. Hold on tight on the toilet. More crap is coming for sure, it's Bioware thread anyway.

EA Juden raus!

 

[Lyric Suite]

Now they are ripping off South Park too?

 

[eremita]

- Can't physically punish Sera for being shit. Can only decline her offer to join the Inquisition. Which I gladly did.

As a reviewer I will go through all characters and dialogue, unlike to professional ones. that said, I am still in the hinterlands and have not encountered Sera.

 

[Mrowak]

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Pretty much this.

While I am still having some fun with the political gimmicky minigame, and it is good to see some C&C (even though they come down to forks - e.g. gaining Allies A for a quest while losing Allies B) the combat became horrendous afair. It can be challenging, but always in unfun way. As you progress through the game the enemies become stat sponges with bloated HP. For example my 8th level chars have around 500 - 900 HP. The enemies on the same level though can have 1200-2400 hp and hit like a truck. So the challenges lies in outgunning them by spamming same attacks. This was present in DA 1 - but it is a lot worse here. The best of MMO design in a single player game. Blegh.

Add to that terrible AI of your party members, who tend to wander off everywhere, but not where they are needed and you have a recipe for disaster. In DA1 I would simply turn off AI and babysit battles myself, but the blasted controls just won't let me.

And that abysmal camera. Ugh. Someone had the bright idea to limit it maximal panning distance to hight of the ceiling instead of, I don't know, making ceiling invisible and letting player zoom out so that he has the complete overview. With dungeons being cramped like hell, this makes impossible for me to see more than 2 chars in overhead view - I have to constantly tinker with camera, which often readjusts itself in semi-random way. Of course the maximal camera distance on overland maps is much, much too short as well.

I am certain that the game was playtested to see if tactical gameplay is challenging and generally doable. But no one bothered to check if this was fun.

 

[SwiftCrack]

Can this become a smiley?

 

[Spiral Jacobs]

The complaining about people of different color and accents in a game with elves, dwarves, and magic because there's a superficial similarity to medieval England is hilariously stupid. Complain about the game, the hokey writing, the sex scenes, but this is just close minded dumbness at best. It's a bloody fantasy setting, whatever BioWare says the peoples look like is what they look like.

 

[eremita]

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Pretty much this.

While I am still having some fun with the political gimmicky minigame, and it is good to see some C&C (even though they come down to forks - e.g. gaining Allies A for a quest while losing Allies B) the combat became horrendous afair. It can be challenging, but always in unfun way. As you progress through the game the enemies become stat sponges with bloated HP. For example my 8th level chars have around 500 - 900 HP. The enemies on the same level though can have 1200-2400 hp and hit like a truck. So the challenges lies in outgunning them by spamming same attacks. This was present in DA 1 - but it is a lot worse here. The best of MMO design in a single player game. Blegh.

Add to that terrible AI of your party members, who tend to wander off everywhere, but not where they are needed and you have a recipe for disaster. In DA1 I would simply turn off AI and babysit battles myself, but the blasted controls just won't let me.

And that abysmal camera. Ugh. Someone had the bright idea to limit it maximal panning distance to hight of the ceiling instead of, I don't know, making ceiling invisible and letting player zoom out so that he has the complete overview. With dungeons being cramped like hell, this makes impossible for me to see more than 2 chars in overhead view - I have to constantly tinker with camera, which often readjusts itself in semi-random way. Of course the maximal camera distance on overland maps is much, much too short as well.

I am certain that the game was playtested to see if tactical gameplay is challenging and generally doable. But no one bothered to check if this was fun.

Can you elaborate please? What sort of options player has when issuing commands to the whole party/individual members in combat etc. Have you opened class specializations yet? If so, are they making any difference?

 

[Mrowak]

The complaining about people of different color and accents in a game with elves, dwarves, and magic because there's a superficial similarity to medieval England is hilariously stupid. Complain about the game, the hokey writing, the sex scenes, but this is just close minded dumbness at best. It's a bloody fantasy setting, whatever BioWare says the peoples look like is what they look like.

But how you are going to stop them exactly? Because screaming in shril voice "but that's 'rong!" won't cut it. Hardly a reason to change your convictions.

Piece of friendly advice - live and let live. If that's what annoys them, that's their thing, just shrug and carry on. It will make your stay at Codex far more enjoyable.

 

[Mrowak]

Can you elaborate please? What sort of options player has when issuing commands to the whole party/individual members in combat etc. Have you opened class specializations yet? If so, are they making any difference?

1. Player cannot select more than 1 character at the same time.
2. When a character is selected the camera moves over him automagically. This is very bad because...
3. You can navigate the camera only on the flat surfaces as it is stuck to it. I'll let that sink in for a moment. What does it mean? Well, let's say there are archers standing on an elevation with stairs leading to them, you cannot simply hover camera over those bastards. Oh no, you must navigate camera all the way from you character through the stairs to finally zoom onto the enemies. And what if there are no stairs (e.g. the enemies stand on a pillar)? Well, then you cannot navigate the camera at all, as it will be stuck to the bottom of the pillar, with now way to move camera coursor onto he enemies. It's so stupid it's hard to convey and imagine someone could think it is a good solution, but this is how it works. Watch RK47 's videos to see the system in action.
4. The maximal zoom out distance usually covers 1/3 of the average battlefield. So you need to move camera constantly. Poop.

As for class specializations I am not even sure if there are any.

 

[RK47]

 

[RK47]

As for class specializations I am not even sure if there are any.

Once you recruit 3 mage and realize they have access to the same skill tree and they had no skill point invested when joining your party - it's probably best to not hope for too much.
You notice Vivi the Black Mage cast Frost on a NPC during cutscene? So what? She joins you with no point invested. Enjoy your Fireballing mage or Barrier Bot customized to your taste.
Other than their lines, their looks and skin, they can be made clones of each other when it comes to their skill distribution.

That is the extent of their creativity.

 

[Athelas]

It was fairly obvious combat was going to turn out to be the decrepit love child of RTwP and action-RPG. They would probably have been better off making it a pure action game.

 

[aris]

Can you elaborate please? What sort of options player has when issuing commands to the whole party/individual members in combat etc. Have you opened class specializations yet? If so, are they making any difference?

1. Player cannot select more than 1 character at the same time.
2. When a character is selected the camera moves over him automagically. This is very bad because...
3. You can navigate the camera only on the flat surfaces as it is stuck to it. I'll let that sink in for a moment. What does it mean? Well, let's say there are archers standing on an elevation with stairs leading to them, you cannot simply hover camera over those bastards. Oh no, you must navigate camera all the way from you character through the stairs to finally zoom onto the enemies. And what if there are no stairs (e.g. the enemies stand on a pillar)? Well, then you cannot navigate the camera at all, as it will be stuck to the bottom of the pillar, with now way to move camera coursor onto he enemies. It's so stupid it's hard to convey and imagine someone could think it is a good solution, but this is how it works. Watch RK47 's videos to see the system in action.
4. The maximal zoom out distance usually covers 1/3 of the average battlefield. So you need to move camera constantly. Poop.

As for class specializations I am not even sure if there are any.

Indeed, as far as I've seen, the "tactical" camera leaves much to be desired. I think it can be fixed however, and hopefully they will.

 

[Mrowak]

As for class specializations I am not even sure if there are any.

Once you recruit 3 mage and realize they have access to the same skill tree and they had no skill point invested when joining your party - it's probably best to not hope for too much.
You notice Vivi the Black Mage cast Frost on a NPC during cutscene? So what? She joins you with no point invested. Enjoy your Fireballing mage or Barrier Bot customized to your taste.
Other than their lines, their looks and skin, they can be made clones of each other when it comes to their skill distribution.

That is the extent of their creativity.

True enough. Also you can redistribute anyone's skills at any point using special amulet. It's 375 gold a pop, so it's no biggie.

 

[DalekFlay]

As for class specializations I am not even sure if there are any.

Once you recruit 3 mage and realize they have access to the same skill tree and they had no skill point invested when joining your party - it's probably best to not hope for too much.
You notice Vivi the Black Mage cast Frost on a NPC during cutscene? So what? She joins you with no point invested. Enjoy your Fireballing mage or Barrier Bot customized to your taste.
Other than their lines, their looks and skin, they can be made clones of each other when it comes to their skill distribution.

That is the extent of their creativity.

True enough. Also you can redistribute anyone's skills at any point using special amulet. It's 375 gold a pop, so it's no biggie.

I have read about it and there are specializations and character-specific trees later. One guy was made because he made Blackwall a 2-handed weapon guy and then got his special tree later which is all tanking stuff.

 

[Tehdagah]

Ass-kicking woman warriors is a fucking nerd trope that predates SJW by decades. Seems pretty silly to deny that. Look at the box art for Darklands FFS.

But they were hot.

Even before Inquisiton, Cassandra was kinda pretty.

Especially in the CG movie.

But now:

 

[Wulfric Pinewood]

Typical codex arguments... . Hehehe, have fun kiddos, going back to play DA:I now and Xulima next, after that some time in Bloodlines and Ultima, love the free days. Hold on tight on the toilet. More crap is coming for sure, it's Bioware thread anyway.

EA Juden raus!

Watch out for a thin line .

 

[Glaurung]

400 pages of copious codexian insanity over biowarian SJW shit has caused me to make up my mind. I'm going to buy Faggot Rage: Circumcision and do a screenshot Let's Play of it in the Playground. Unless someone else does it first. May the Maker help me in this darkest hour.

 

[dryan]

Ass-kicking woman warriors is a fucking nerd trope that predates SJW by decades. Seems pretty silly to deny that. Look at the box art for Darklands FFS.

But they were hot.

Even before Inquisiton, Cassandra was kinda pretty.

Especially in the CG movie.

But now:

That's the greatest tragedy.

 

[Lyric Suite]

The complaining about people of different color and accents in a game with elves, dwarves, and magic because there's a superficial similarity to medieval England is hilariously stupid

Ha yes, my favored fallacy. Too bored to go through explaining why this line of thinking is fucking retarded for what is probably the hundredth time.

 

[Lhynn]

400 pages of copious codexian insanity over biowarian SJW shit has caused me to make up my mind. I'm going to buy Faggot Rage: Circumcision and do a screenshot Let's Play of it in the Playground. Unless someone else does it first. May the Maker help me in this darkest hour.

Bioware wins again.