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Baldur's Gate The Baldur's Gate Series Thread
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Average Manatee
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Few reasons you could consider it cheesy:
1. BG AI and pathing combine to make kiting really OP. Enemies only "act" about once a round (I think this is due to how its scripted, so mods can change it but its true for normal enemies even in SCS), so every time you make a movement you have an average of half a round of time before the AI reacts and follows you. They also don't keep up well, and because they need to stop and wait for 2-3 seconds to actually take a swing and you can always immediately retreat out of melee range, they can never hit you.
2. For Ogres specifically it makes no sense that they'd be slow. Giant strong humans should be fast. at least as fast as unhasted PCs.
3. In D&D these tactics wouldn't work, you can't take a full round moving and then fire a ranged weapon. The Ogre would have twice your movement.
NecroLord
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You are correct.
Even in the later 3E and 3.5 editions, there are giant humanoids and other big creatures which are deceptively fast comparative to their mass. It makes sense. Not only that, but they also have great reach.
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You can also abuse the targeting AI to make it follow who it's trying to hit while the rest of the team gets hits in. Watch for "Ogre attacks..." in the log, smack space bar, have the original target turn around like pacman and start microing the new target. Get a lot more mileage out of your hp. Not as safe but faster than range and you can just quickload the occasional mulching.
I think it adds some layer of fun to the game and its part of the reason why when people simp for RTwP they hold up the IE. Its jank but you can learn the jank and improve your ability at the game by mastering it. In newer titles you have AoO that kind of fucked this up to where it only makes sense to be turn based.
Just got through my first replay in awhile and i'm about to start Dragonspear for the first time.
I think it adds some layer of fun to the game and its part of the reason why when people simp for RTwP they hold up the IE. Its jank but you can learn the jank and improve your ability at the game by mastering it. In newer titles you have AoO that kind of fucked this up to where it only makes sense to be turn based.
Just got through my first replay in awhile and i'm about to start Dragonspear for the first time.
Buttstab. Same thing.
Not when you wipe off the weapon afterwards.
This is actually one of the things I hate about newer games. Where you can "backstab" a giant in the heel. Like how the hell is that a vital spot? Why would anyone think that should do bonus damage? Anyway...
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I've always tried to cheese my way through games, whether it's BG2 or Gothic or Morrowind or anything that can give me an unfair advantage. It's part of the charm. 
The Jester
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Lonely Vazdru
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Where you can "backstab" a giant in the heel. Like how the hell is that a vital spot? Why would anyone think that should do bonus damage? Anyway...
Gentlemen... Jason is not amused.
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In the original, Minsc was intense but not menacing. Boo was the one who looks like he'd rip your eyes out. In today year's one, it is the other way around, with Boo looking like he just wants out.
Truly the hamster is the smarter one.
Modron
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They mostly look fine to decent except for the elfs because Stable Diffusion rightly hates them. Yoshimo is messed up because it probably hasn't been fed a lot of filipinos/indonesians in fantasy costumery.
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In the original, Minsc was intense but not menacing. Boo was the one who looks like he'd rip your eyes out. In today year's one, it is the other way around, with Boo looking like he just wants out.
Truly the hamster is the smarter one.
The Jester
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What's wrong with elfs here exactly? they just look like humans with pointy ears.
The Jester
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What? if anything the AI changed most of the olive skin to white.
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Im close to the end of my insane double damage SCS bg1ee run, I left imoen on the street in baldurs gate and an npc spawned on top of her, she's stuck, any solutions?
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