Incline Tactical Shooter Thread

[Maggot]

After the recent re-release of SWAT 4 on GOG I've been on a tactical shooter binge with mainly SWAT 3 and Rainbow Six 3 (which still has working online by the way) and I noticed there's no codex thread about them. What was your favorite one? Do you prefer multiplayer or singleplayer ones which focused on planning on a map then executing? Will they ever make a comeback?

My personal favorite is SWAT 3 and I think this video does a pretty good job of showing why it's so great. As a franchise though I would say Rainbow Six is the best with how many good games and expansions there were.

 

[Ivan]

 

[Carrion]

Operation Flashpoint is the one I've played the most, largely thanks to the mission editor and the sheer amount of variety it has. For the close-quarters combat stuff I slightly prefer early Rainbow Six to SWAT for no real reason other than because Rogue Spear is the first tactical shooter I played, and both series are great despite approaching a similar subject from a completely different angle. Ghost Recon was alright for the first game, but as a series it nosedived pretty quickly. H&D was really cool and ambitious although a tad too broken, so that I haven't really touched it after my first playthrough, and the sequel toned down the realism quite a bit from what I remember. Delta Force was fun, but I never really considered it a part of this genre.

I've always been mostly interested in singleplayer, which is why I've been pretty disappointed with Arma, which really is the only series worth keeping an eye on nowadays.

 

[Maggot]

Arma would be great if it had decent AI and maybe a new engine since every game feels like OFP just with better graphics while still keeping the same issues from OFP. Indoor combat is a mess because you still fall through stairs and get your guns caught on walls. Right now you have to choose between playing with a group or doing Altis Life or Wasteland because that's all people play now. Meanwhile Squad is shaping up to be pretty good but still needs more content on the level of PR and more urban maps. The vehicle claiming system is terrible too.

 

[zool]

So what are the recommended mods for SWAT 3 and SWAT4?

I've only heard about the Last Resort mod for SWAT 3 (allows widescreen resolutions and upgrades textures) and the Elite Force mod for SWAT 4 (lots of gameplay modifications). Has anyone tested them?

 

[TripJack]

definitely OFP for me, though it can be an infuriating fucking game sometimes

need to check out swat 3 asap

 

[Maggot]

I personally just use Last Resort mod for 3 but there's tons of gun mods and custom maps you can get at http://www.swat3reunited.com/ along with some gameplay mods.

 

[Mustawd]

Few things were more fun than playing Rogue Spear in multiplayer over a 56k modem.

 

[bussinrounds]

H&D was really cool and ambitious although a tad too broken, so that I haven't really touched it after my first playthrough, and the sequel toned down the realism quite a bit from what I remember.

One thing I did realize about H&D2 was not to take any compasses (enemies appear as red dots on it), as you don't need it anyway because the map shows your position...unlike OFP. (only know about the hardest difficulty in OFP, as that's all I ever played on)

I do remember reading somewhere that the enemy AI was tougher on the harder difficulty levels in H&D2. (don't know if this is true) I'm playing on the second one down which only allows 3 saves per level. (as opposed to zero on the hardest difficulty)

One thing I'm having a problem with is setting the ROE on the tactical map and having it 'stick'. For instance, I'll set it for defensive, and next thing I know, they're all greyed out again with nothing set.

Anyway, we should use this thread for talk about mods for the various tactical shooters and ppls thoughts on them.

I see some of the popular ones seem to be...

R6 Raven Shield - 2.0 mod and Ordinance project (believe these can be run together)
Ghost Recon 1 - Heroes Unleashed
SWAT 4 - Sheriffs Special Forces Realism mod
SWAT 3 - Last Resort
OFP - I know there's a lot for this one (I don't care about Arma2/3 as my PC ran 2 like dogshit when I tried it)

You did mention Abandoned Armies to me, as I was looking for a good ww2 OFP mod. I also seem to have this ECP redux mod on my hd, that I must have dl at some point. (haven't played OFP in a while)

Like you, I'm only interested in sp/co-op stuff.

 

[skacky]

Voted SWAT but I also love Arma and Operation Flashpoint.

 

[Sranchammer]

2012 DayZ

 

[Maggot]

Last Resort is kind of hit and miss with some of the textures. Some of the replacements are modern and stick out like Windows 7 on some of the CRT monitors in offices and PCGamer texture replacements for magazines. It's still worth getting because of the launcher that lets you disable and re-enable mods and the graphical changes.

 

[Hoplopfheil]

I'm trying to remember which Delta Force game was a tactical shooter.

 

[Maggot]

I'm trying to remember which Delta Force game was a tactical shooter.

I thought about removing it but kept it in anyways since it's one of the first video games I can think of that the US military modified and used for training.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

Earlier thread about same topic
http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...son-shooters-with-actual-singleplayer.101802/

 

[Maggot]

Earlier thread about same topic
http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...son-shooters-with-actual-singleplayer.101802/

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