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Shadowrun Shadowrun Returns Pre-Release Thread

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The Steam store has two separate Euro "tiers", with different pricing each. Not sure how accurate this article is, but the tiers do exist.
 

DalekFlay

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I never viewed sales figures as a measure of quality for a game.

With the way this forum promotes PST you'd figure that would be a commonly accepted assumption.


No one saying sales equals quality. We are just happy an isometric turn-based RPG based is in Steam top sellers.
 

Castanova

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I'm fairly certain the game is only going to last somewhere around 5 hours. That's why I didn't back it in the first place. Looking forward to seeing if I was right.
 

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I never viewed sales figures as a measure of quality for a game.

With the way this forum promotes PST you'd figure that would be a commonly accepted assumption.


No one saying sales equals quality. We are just happy an isometric turn-based RPG based is in Steam top sellers.
This. And it's the first high-profile crowdfunded game release on Steam, so we're all curious how well and where this thing can go.
 

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I'm fairly certain the game is only going to last somewhere around 5 hours. That's why I didn't back it in the first place. Looking forward to seeing if I was right.

They say 12, so let's split the difference and hit 8. Which is not exceptional for a turn based game, granted.

Hopefully the second hub they release later at least doubles the content.
 

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We're interested in sales because SR's success would give Harebrained an opportunity to make a larger game with more features, especially now that they've gotten over their isometric development woes. Just to give an estimate, them selling 100k copies at full price on Steam would give them a profit of 1.4 million, which is probably more than SR's budget. And I don't think these kinds of figures are out of the question, especially given that they're releasing on mobile platforms as well.

This is the point of kickstarter for me, to kickstart promising studios into financial independence.

That's almost CoD length.

Longer than Mirror's Edge.
 

Surf Solar

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I'm especially interested in that editor of theirs. Been reading Shadowrun Lore all day long and already have some ideas I'd like to realize with that nifty thing.
 

NotTale

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I just hope I can run the editor well. Last editor I was able to use without my comp throwing a fit was Oblivion.
 

bonescraper

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I'm worried about the editor myself. It's actually rather restrictive. You can't add your own tiles, models, animations, you can't mess with the core mechanics etc. Seattle will get boring pretty fast i think.
 

Surf Solar

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So all of these functions to add tiles etc are hardcoded into the engine? I'll believe it when I see it, hopefully people will be able to get past these restrictions, would be a shame really.
 

Kem0sabe

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I think people have been able to mod around these limitations, right? At least i remember someone talking about custom tiles and art here on the forum a while back.
 

Kz3r0

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We're interested in sales because SR's success would give Harebrained an opportunity to make a larger game with more features, especially now that they've gotten over their isometric development woes. Just to give an estimate, them selling 100k copies at full price on Steam would give them a profit of 1.4 million, which is probably more than SR's budget. And I don't think these kinds of figures are out of the question, especially given that they're releasing on mobile platforms as well.

This is the point of kickstarter for me, to kickstart promising studios into financial independence.
The license will still belong to Microsoft tho.
 

Cowboy Moment

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We're interested in sales because SR's success would give Harebrained an opportunity to make a larger game with more features, especially now that they've gotten over their isometric development woes. Just to give an estimate, them selling 100k copies at full price on Steam would give them a profit of 1.4 million, which is probably more than SR's budget. And I don't think these kinds of figures are out of the question, especially given that they're releasing on mobile platforms as well.

This is the point of kickstarter for me, to kickstart promising studios into financial independence.
The license will still belong to Microsoft tho.

So? Microsoft will take their cut and that'll be it, such are the perils of working with a license owned by an external party. Also, it's not like Harebrained are limited to making Shadowrun games till the end of time.
 

SwiftCrack

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It's in 2nd place.

for the visually inclined Neanderthal;

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SwiftCrack

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Also about the tier system


Tier 1: Albania, Andorra, Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Macedonia, Netherlands, Sweden or Switzerland.

Tier 2: Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Malta, Monaco, Montenegro, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, San Marino, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain or the Vatican City (We’re sure the pope is happy).

I think it is funny that Albania and Macedonia (arguably Andorra) are T1 while ITALY (top ten world economy) is T2
 

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lol, you think tiers are for the sake of poor people?

Tiers exist based on optimum price. If people in Italy generally spend less on games, they get the lower tier so Valve can sell more copies.

(also, those tiers aren't from official sources - they're guesses based on a few examples of observed prices)
 

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