KickStarter Serpent in the Staglands Pre-Release Thread

[Sensuki]

Download is going pretty slow, but I suppose it will be done eventually

Man, an actual in game updater. It's been a while!

Is there a vsync for 120Hz? I always play with Vsync off but you said something about bad tearing with the tile scaling system or something ?

 

[Invictus]

Its cool man I am just messing, you go ahead and take all the time you need; I have been waiting for 2 years for Grimoire so you can say I am the patient type for theis sort of thing

 

[Photokoi]

Have you watched Game of Thrones at 120hz? It looks like shit.

Yes:mrfussy:

It's true, and a lot of my friends and colleagues don't seem to notice 120 hz on their TVs and it drives me insane.

 

[agris]

Have you watched Game of Thrones at 120hz? It looks like shit.

Yes:mrfussy:

It's true, and a lot of my friends and colleagues don't seem to notice 120 hz on their TVs and it drives me insane.

You guys are also watching interpolated 120 Hz, the source material is still 24 fps (24 Hz). Their TV/player's video processor is using a math function to generate that extra 96 fps.

I think it looks weird too.

 

[Photokoi]

I think it's called the soap opera affect. I had to watch an entire starwars movie with it on.

 

[Ellef]

Why don't they make the source material in modern frame rates? Is it because we're too used 24 fps, and anything higher looks cheap (like the soap operas?)

 

[tuluse]

Why don't they make the source material in modern frame rates? Is it because we're too used 24 fps, and anything higher looks cheap (like the soap operas?)

I'm not sure Agris is 100% correct about this. A lot of TV is filmed at 30fps since that's NTSC signal.

Movies are still at 24 FPS because all the theaters are have 24 FPS projectors and all the people who do technical work are used to 24 FPS.

 

[Sensuki]

MKV of TV shows are 24 FPS

The lower animation FPS is probably for 'old school' feel.

Getting massive mouse lag in the latest version, wasn't present in previous ones.

 

[Whalenought_Joe]

Getting massive mouse lag in the latest version, wasn't present in previous ones.

Weird, we haven't seen that on either OS — is that with the V-Sync option turned off or at 60? The 30-option certainly slowed things down but I didn't notice anything slo in the others.

 

[Sensuki]

Where is the vsync option? The options menu is disabled for me.

I think it's at 120Hz vsync. My FPS is locked at 120Hz.

Edit: DW, I started a new arena then pressed ESC and saw the option in there.

Disabling Vsync fixed the mouse lag for me. Strange because the game had vsync on previously yeah? But no lag.

Also the mouse scroll speed is tied to the FPS, so it's super fast for me when I unlock the frame rate.

The vsync option doesn't appear to save on exit. It reverts back to the default of "high" and it would be nice if there was a scrollbar to change the scroll speed.

 

[Whalenought_Joe]

The vsync option doesn't appear to save on exit. It reverts back to the default of "high" and it would be nice if there was a scrollbar to change the scroll speed.

Thanks for looking into that, we were just about to start investigating. Good catch on the saving, added that and the scroll speed indicator to our trello list for the next patch.

 

[treborSux]

Why don't they make the source material in modern frame rates? Is it because we're too used 24 fps, and anything higher looks cheap (like the soap operas?)

I'm not sure Agris is 100% correct about this. A lot of TV is filmed at 30fps since that's NTSC signal.

Movies are still at 24 FPS because all the theaters are have 24 FPS projectors and all the people who do technical work are used to 24 FPS.

What Agris is trying to explain is TVs advertised at 120-240 Hz use motion interpolation which inserts extra frames to try to give a smoother look. Not the same thing as high end monitors that actually have true 120-144 Hz refresh rates, which is awesome to use.

 

[agris]

Why don't they make the source material in modern frame rates? Is it because we're too used 24 fps, and anything higher looks cheap (like the soap operas?)

I'm not sure Agris is 100% correct about this. A lot of TV is filmed at 30fps since that's NTSC signal.

Movies are still at 24 FPS because all the theaters are have 24 FPS projectors and all the people who do technical work are used to 24 FPS.

That's true, broadcast (antennae / cable) is often 30 fps but movies and tv shows that are from Blu-ray sources (1080p) are almost always 24 fps. The broadcast standard is actually slightly more complicated (link). Granted that even if a network is broadcasting in 1080/60, that doesn't guarantee the source material is 60 fps. Like tuluse said, most tv shows are recorded at 30 fps, and movies in 24. Anyway, that means your 120 hz tv is interpolating 50% to ~80% of the image per second, which contributes to that weird look.

 

[dukeofwhales]

Kickstarter update with a new trailer (ft. Codex shoutout)

 

[Cadmus]

"featured in RPG Codex list of incline 2015" that is the most hilarious thing I've read this week

Sometimes, the insanity of this place becomes clear to me when I view it from the outsider's perspective.
The trailer is intriguing, too bad the game is made with the fucking shit pixel art.

 

[Darth Roxor]

too bad the game is made with the fucking shit pixel art.

 

[dukeofwhales]

Code at the end of the trailer says "Coming May 28 2015", so we have a release date too.

 

[Mustawd]

The trailer is intriguing, too bad the game is made with the fucking shit pixel art.

Yeah, things possibly can't look good without 100% realism....

I mean look at that Monet. What a piece of shit.

Even worse, this Seurat.

You can even see all the pixelated brushstrokes for fucks sake...

 

[Cadmus]

You must be a retard. I'm not going to fight your strawman.

 

[Mustawd]

You must be a retard.

Yeah, that MUST be it. Lol.

 

[Ellef]

Game looks fine to me. The only problem I had with the art style was the fairly illegible text but that seems mostly gone now.

 

[Sensuki]

Incline 2015.

 

[Starwars]

Looks great! Good job on doing the video also.

 

[belated]

Looks great! Glad I backed this.

 

[Infinitron]

"No quest or gear grinding", eh