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[Perkel]

Reasonably pretty cinematic. Where is the gameplay?

Currently servers are fucked so much so that you can't really play anything. XD

Is that with the old or new server tech?

old, they basically wanted to sell ships asap for $$$ and broke effectively live servers. You can play but shit just happens.
new servers aka 4.0 is still in testing and still unstable.

So, the old and new servers both don't work? Or usually the old ones work but everytime they update something it breaks?

3.24.1 was old networking and old systems which was very stable and everything worked pretty well. In fact from my experience this was the most stable and bug free (if you can call it that) experience since 2012.

Then they released 3.24.2 which is actually 4.0 but without server meshing and new system. And it is highly unstable, crashes, ton of bugs etc. Basically they are testing 4.0 and patching it before actual release. 4.0 proper with server meshing and new system is in evo testing which is even more unstable and buggy.

They broke it for 2 reasons.

1. They want to test 4.0 before official release.
2. new ship sales were always done on 4.0 branch and they can't port fast enough new ships to old branch. Ship sales event goes on 21 of novmember and thus they released 3.24.2 aka cut down 4.0 with those new ships.

 

[The_Sloth_Sleeps]

Dynamic server meshing is a bad idea and will not work.

Similar systems already exist but they always have limitations that are unacceptable for most games. Usually speed is sacrificed for secureness and availability.

This needs some database system that can do a huge amounts of parallel read and write at real time, with high volume of data. The database system (replication layer) will all be stored in one physical location to allow synchronization as fast as possible. If instead there are multiple physical sites hosting replication layers synchronization will be slow.

There are massive problems with these ideas. This only works under the assumption that you can granulize the data so that it can be spread around without consideration of the state of the data. E.g. tiny objects that don't interact with each other. In most real world conditions especially low latency games with high traffic, streaming state of huge complex objects like spaceships..
this will not behave well at all.

Add to this the latency of the internet and round trips are simply not possible for hige amounts of data travelling across vast distances to be synchronized.

 

[TalesfromtheCrypt]

Yeah, they have been dangling this magic tech in front of their retarded playerbase for a few years now. It‘s obvious it will never work, but it keeps the whales hanging one in the hope that the game will someday support MMO-scale player numbers.

 

[OndrejSc]

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Some people just deserve being swindled.

 

[Perkel]

4.0 going out of evocati soon. How CIG testing goes from most broken to release:

internaQA
evocati - closed testing by chosen members of community that are bugtracking the most.
PTU Wave 1 - open testing for subscribers and whales, low numbers
PTU Wave 2 - open testing for most of community, medium numbers
PTU Wave 3 - open testing for all of community, almost live numbers
LIVE - considered "released" state, which might still contain bugs but CIG moves on to other features.

Probably they will release it to PTUW3 by christmas and maybe live at the end of January. Aside from server meshing they are rewriting almost all of the old code as it needs to be updated or rewritten for server meshing. So mission code, pathfinding etc etc etc. Currently evocati builds have only like half of the systems.

 

[Aemar]

2954. Is that the release year?

 

[ropetight]

This dude, Undead Parrot, is just building new cockpits and playing SC.
By the level of him being into it, I would say that his 100k he gave to Roberts and hardware stores is well spent.

 

[Perkel]

4.0 was released to PTU. Low chance of it going to live before end of this year imho. CIG closes door on 20th until new year starts.

 

[Perkel]

4.0 ptu update FOIM animations (foip is their emotion engine to read you face from camera and plant it on your character)

 

[Stokowski]

 

[Tommy Gun]

This pik above makes me think the ship looks a bit like a space camper van, and I think some good roleplay/gameplay could come from that, the problem is Elon will probably be offering something in real life like that before this game comes out.

 

[Perkel]

This pik above makes me think the ship looks a bit like a space camper van, and I think some good roleplay/gameplay could come from that, the problem is Elon will probably be offering something in real life like that before this game comes out.

And it pretty much is. It's a starter ship. Drake in game lore are kind of wacko producer that makes ships pretty cheap and rugged.

 

[The_Sloth_Sleeps]

4.0 ptu update FOIM animations (foip is their emotion engine to read you face from camera and plant it on your character)

We must assume that facial expressions will not be streamed in networking mode.

The more and more fancy stuff they add the more and more data is required to represent it on the network. They can try to do LODs and prioritizing traffic and entity interest management but this only goes so far.

 

[Perkel]

The more and more fancy stuff they add the more and more data is required to represent it on the network. They can try to do LODs and prioritizing traffic and entity interest management but this only goes so far.

IT takes around 1mbit/s right now non stop.

 

[The_Sloth_Sleeps]

The more and more fancy stuff they add the more and more data is required to represent it on the network. They can try to do LODs and prioritizing traffic and entity interest management but this only goes so far.

IT takes around 1mbit/s right now non stop.

It will depend a lot on whats happening. If you have a room full of people doing facial expressions and all the other state thats a lot of data for a round trip in a small time frame to keep in sync.