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Perkel
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I mean yeah, back then there were words now you have actually people moving between work on SQ and SC. Suddenly people who were hired in early days popping their heads in dev streams saying they moved from SQ work to SC, stuff getting ported etc etc etc.
Point is that back then it was mostly words now there are tangible facts that are hard to ignore. So either SQ was cancelled and they just move people to SC or actually SQ is getting finished and people are just finishing their work moving to SC after that.
To me the most fun aspect of it is that they still don't have good flying mechanics and they just ported back master modes from SQ42 and no one likes it. Which shows you how detached sq team was from SC one when it comes to design and gameplay.
SC was supposed to be gameplay test for what it will be going into SQ42 so that they can have good gameplay from get go. Instead we got master modes which no one likes and whole host of changes people aren't really hot about.
The reason ? Because combat in SC wasn't as cinematic as Chris envisioned because there was too much jousting.
Point is that back then it was mostly words now there are tangible facts that are hard to ignore. So either SQ was cancelled and they just move people to SC or actually SQ is getting finished and people are just finishing their work moving to SC after that.
To me the most fun aspect of it is that they still don't have good flying mechanics and they just ported back master modes from SQ42 and no one likes it. Which shows you how detached sq team was from SC one when it comes to design and gameplay.
SC was supposed to be gameplay test for what it will be going into SQ42 so that they can have good gameplay from get go. Instead we got master modes which no one likes and whole host of changes people aren't really hot about.
The reason ? Because combat in SC wasn't as cinematic as Chris envisioned because there was too much jousting.
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My bad, my bad, fixed
... you mean, like the fact that you can't buy it since it was pulled out of their own store back in May 2023 for a "price change"?
Don't sweat it. None of us will be alive to see that.
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You mean, when they announce the beta... again. Right?
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12 year dev time for this moment. In 24 they will have tigers.
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https://trademarks.justia.com/986/17/soulsinger-98617408.html
CIG trademarked "soulsinger" game title.
CIG working on 3rd game lol ?
CIG trademarked "soulsinger" game title.
CIG working on 3rd game lol ?
At this rate, we'll be taken over and it'll be the Kilrathi that bring the game to market for the Empire.
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This thing is the gift that keeps on giving. My brother spend a few k on this shit, it has been of great amusement to me (but not him) whenever I see him.
Thank you CIG, you have made my life a lot more enjoyable.
Thank you CIG, you have made my life a lot more enjoyable.
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Myobi
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100 players to 1000 players per world, but how many players per shard/server?
Because last time I watched 100 players inside a space ship 2 years ago, the game was barely holding together with them just standing still while glitching and spazzing on the spot.
Because last time I watched 100 players inside a space ship 2 years ago, the game was barely holding together with them just standing still while glitching and spazzing on the spot.
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Right now current limit is 100 players per world which runs 1 server.
Test will go from 100 players till 1000 players per world. No news on how many servers per world for now.
Last time they run 200-400-800 test with different server configurations.
200 one had 5 servers each having one planet and it's moons and space in between (which was separate server)
800 one had more than 5 and some of the moons were split.
What interest me is that if they will do test with multiple servers on same planet. As in planet is one server and city is different one.
Last time they did tests server fps was non stop around 20-24FPS even at 800 player test it was mostly 20fps.
The issue wasn't server performance but stability and broken features. This time some of those features will be working and they claimed to resolved a lot of bugs.
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New server meshing test today. Went from 1:100 (1 server - 100 people total) to 6:1000 again and then went bac to 4:500
Impressions from 1000 one:
- massively improved
- servers didn't crash from my experience.
- lag was there but like 30-40 seconds instead of 5-10minutes per action like in the last one.
- It was enough playable so that i could visit all the planets in system in one session.
4:500 was the one that by far was the best.
- Effectively better than LIVE experience (and current LIVE is arguably best state SC ever was)
- 30fps server ticks everywhere (compared to LIVE's 5-10 server fps) on planets and around 20-25 in space.
- there is a slight lag (in range of 100ms to 200ms compared to live 30-40ms) which was noticeable but not gamebreaking.
- finally AI worked well as in true 30fps server you can occasionally very early morning when no one plays SC.
- Didn't find any "seams" between servers or anything like in previous test. They fixed stuff like quantum jumping etc that would stop at server borders.
From CIG post there are ton of bugs still to solve but progress in just a week seems pretty good. The best part is that with 30fps server tick 90% of other SC bugs don't happen which are usually fucking people experience. Like AI for NPCs actually work now and they pose challange rather than fighting someone with parkinsons and alzhaimers at the same time. Stuff doesn't just randomly decides to fall through floor etc.
The little lag on 500 shard i had obviously has some impact on experience but in previous testing it was on order of 2000-3000ms. aka 2-3 seconds even on 500 people shard.
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Reading more on people impressions it seems that right now the main stoppers are in fact just server meshing bugs with how it handles rest of the game that cause chain reactions of errors etc. It's not fundamental issue like many people worried about.
I think next week they will again run the test and try at least for 500 one to have 1:1 feature set as the LIVE build. Once that is achieved they will start to go up with player numbers. Current build for server meshing had disabled missions and CIG adviced to avoid R&Rs due to bugs with elevators.
Probably 2000-3000 player test in 2 weeks.
Impressions from 1000 one:
- massively improved
- servers didn't crash from my experience.
- lag was there but like 30-40 seconds instead of 5-10minutes per action like in the last one.
- It was enough playable so that i could visit all the planets in system in one session.
4:500 was the one that by far was the best.
- Effectively better than LIVE experience (and current LIVE is arguably best state SC ever was)
- 30fps server ticks everywhere (compared to LIVE's 5-10 server fps) on planets and around 20-25 in space.
- there is a slight lag (in range of 100ms to 200ms compared to live 30-40ms) which was noticeable but not gamebreaking.
- finally AI worked well as in true 30fps server you can occasionally very early morning when no one plays SC.
- Didn't find any "seams" between servers or anything like in previous test. They fixed stuff like quantum jumping etc that would stop at server borders.
From CIG post there are ton of bugs still to solve but progress in just a week seems pretty good. The best part is that with 30fps server tick 90% of other SC bugs don't happen which are usually fucking people experience. Like AI for NPCs actually work now and they pose challange rather than fighting someone with parkinsons and alzhaimers at the same time. Stuff doesn't just randomly decides to fall through floor etc.
The little lag on 500 shard i had obviously has some impact on experience but in previous testing it was on order of 2000-3000ms. aka 2-3 seconds even on 500 people shard.
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Reading more on people impressions it seems that right now the main stoppers are in fact just server meshing bugs with how it handles rest of the game that cause chain reactions of errors etc. It's not fundamental issue like many people worried about.
I think next week they will again run the test and try at least for 500 one to have 1:1 feature set as the LIVE build. Once that is achieved they will start to go up with player numbers. Current build for server meshing had disabled missions and CIG adviced to avoid R&Rs due to bugs with elevators.
Probably 2000-3000 player test in 2 weeks.
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Perkel
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It was both win/lose.
Actual SM was improved but game was just doing CTD all over the place once they started testing 1000 player per shard. They wanted to test 2000 and up but CTDs on server side above 500 players made that impossible. After about an hour of 1000 player shard they brought it back down to 4:500. From my own testing it seems that they fixed high ping. I was getting only 111ms ping which is typical for EU people that connect to US servers.
Buggy as shit but this was another improvement in less than two weeks since last test. So far there were 4 tests:
A: 100 --> 300 --> 500 --> 800 players shards. Up to 300 worked pretty well but above that everything was broken and delays were in vein of 5-15 minutes per action.
B: It run only 100 baseline and was aborted after finding out about some problem.
C: 100 --> 500 --> 1000. That was test less than two weeks ago. 500 shard was stable 1000 was stable but in both cases there was ton of lag and high ping especially 1000 one, ping ranging from 200ms to 2 seconds and lag around 1-5 minutes per action, 500 one was "playable"
D: 100 --> 500 --> 1000. No high ping in any type of shard or delays. CTDs were crapping out both clients and servers though non stop. 500 one was more stable but still issues.
Impressions in video form from some guy:
Actual SM was improved but game was just doing CTD all over the place once they started testing 1000 player per shard. They wanted to test 2000 and up but CTDs on server side above 500 players made that impossible. After about an hour of 1000 player shard they brought it back down to 4:500. From my own testing it seems that they fixed high ping. I was getting only 111ms ping which is typical for EU people that connect to US servers.
Buggy as shit but this was another improvement in less than two weeks since last test. So far there were 4 tests:
A: 100 --> 300 --> 500 --> 800 players shards. Up to 300 worked pretty well but above that everything was broken and delays were in vein of 5-15 minutes per action.
B: It run only 100 baseline and was aborted after finding out about some problem.
C: 100 --> 500 --> 1000. That was test less than two weeks ago. 500 shard was stable 1000 was stable but in both cases there was ton of lag and high ping especially 1000 one, ping ranging from 200ms to 2 seconds and lag around 1-5 minutes per action, 500 one was "playable"
D: 100 --> 500 --> 1000. No high ping in any type of shard or delays. CTDs were crapping out both clients and servers though non stop. 500 one was more stable but still issues.
Impressions in video form from some guy:
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