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I will, but not while I'm with my Polish gf visiting her parents in Kruševac. What can I say, I love my Slavs and I'm addicted to catholic pussy
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There won't be Russian language in the game so they can't rely on diehard STALKER fans to drive sales
A really big mistake on their part.
Eastern Yurop represented (and still does) one of their most prominent fanbases.
russia doesn't have access to finance systems to buy the game with unless you happen to be in the professional class and can work around it with a kazakh bank account, the average gamer there will just pirate as they would have even if they could have bought it
the rest of eastern europe does not care because nobody under 40 in eastern europe speaks russian so they will play it in their local language or english
 

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There won't be Russian language in the game so they can't rely on diehard STALKER fans to drive sales
A really big mistake on their part.
Eastern Yurop represented (and still does) one of their most prominent fanbases.
russia doesn't have access to finance systems to buy the game with unless you happen to be in the professional class and can work around it with a kazakh bank account, the average gamer there will just pirate as they would have even if they could have bought it
the rest of eastern europe does not care because nobody under 40 in eastern europe speaks russian so they will play it in their local language or english
What about the Russian-speaking minority in Ukraine? I feel they are being discriminated against.
 

Iucounu

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I never saw any definitive answer from the leaks: Are there women or not?
I think there are.
There's at least a boss lady in the intro(?) cutscene trailer.

I never saw any definitive answer from the leaks: Are there HOT women or not?
Fixed. You have to ask important questions.
Women have no place in Stalker even if they are hot. Not that one could tell when they're wearing gas masks...
 

motherfucker

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There won't be Russian language in the game so they can't rely on diehard STALKER fans to drive sales
A really big mistake on their part.
Eastern Yurop represented (and still does) one of their most prominent fanbases.
russia doesn't have access to finance systems to buy the game with unless you happen to be in the professional class and can work around it with a kazakh bank account, the average gamer there will just pirate as they would have even if they could have bought it
the rest of eastern europe does not care because nobody under 40 in eastern europe speaks russian so they will play it in their local language or english
What about the Russian-speaking minority in Ukraine? I feel they are being discriminated against.
That's the point
 

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I don't know how true the spoilers are but if they're accurate then the story sounds very disappointing to me and the overall vibe seems solidly We Have Metro At Home. Funny given that the first Metro took so much from Stalker.
 

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What about the Russian-speaking minority in Ukraine? I feel they are being discriminated against.
learn Ukrainian or read subtitles
That's a reasonable expectation. But by removing talk in Russian even between NPCs, it looks like GSC actively discriminates against Ukraine's largest minority group.

What about the Russian-speaking minority in Ukraine? I feel they are being discriminated against.
That's the point
Surely the conflict is with the Russian government, not part of Ukraine's own population? Considering Russia has claimed the latter as one reason for its invasion, this behavior by GSC kind of validates the Russian propaganda.
 

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Surely the conflict is with the Russian government, not part of Ukraine's own population?
The conflict started when russian-spaking parts of Ukraine threatened to secede in response to being discriminated against, to which the newly-installed government said "lol no here bomb fak yu"
 

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Surely the conflict is with the Russian government, not part of Ukraine's own population? Considering Russia has claimed the latter as one reason for its invasion, this behavior by GSC kind of validates the Russian propaganda.
What would ever give you the impression that an extremely corrupt country's leader cares about it's population? The Ukraine Elites are upset their golden goose is being taken away from them. They would nuke every man, woman and child on the planet if it made them an extra shekel.

Stalker is so huge in Russia they have stalker festivals don't they? How much money is left on the table if you cut off that market? Would be funny if the game flopped because vodka-kin couldn't prop up the sales.
 

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Stalker is so huge in Russia they have stalker festivals don't they? How much money is left on the table if you cut off that market? Would be funny if the game flopped because vodka-kin couldn't prop up the sales.

I think i posted before that its one of the more dumber acts of self-immolation I've seen a gaming company commit to, the CIS region accounted for over 60% of SOC sales iirc.

Not only will they drive up the piracy (Russians are going to play the game regardless, in other words), but they are, from the outset, killing off their largest market. They seem to think redditors are going to pick up the tab and I think they are in for a shock when they realize most of that audience is very faddish and there is going to be some "zone" fatigue due to the plethora of "in da zone n shit" titles that have come out and will come out while they are taking forever to release this game.

Its a real "cut your nose to spite your face" situation
 
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Iucounu

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The conflict started when russian-spaking parts of Ukraine threatened to secede in response to being discriminated against, to which the newly-installed government said "lol no here bomb fak yu"

What would ever give you the impression that an extremely corrupt country's leader cares about it's population? The Ukraine Elites are upset their golden goose is being taken away from them. They would nuke every man, woman and child on the planet if it made them an extra shekel.
I was thinking of GSC's lack of inclusion and diversity, but likely they're under pressure from the government.
 

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Stalker is so huge in Russia they have stalker festivals don't they? How much money is left on the table if you cut off that market? Would be funny if the game flopped because vodka-kin couldn't prop up the sales.

I think i posted before that its one of the more dumber acts of self-immolation I've seen a gaming company commit to, the CIS region accounted for over 60% of SOC sales iirc.

Not only will they drive up the piracy (Russians are going to play the game regardless, in other words), but they are, from the outset, killing off their largest market. They seem to think redditors are going to pick up the tab and I think they are in for a shock when they realize most of that audience is very faddish and there is going to be some "zone" fatigue due to the plethora of "in da zone n shit" titles that have come out and will come out while they are taking forever to release this game.

Its a real "cut your nose to spite your face" situation
A lot of stalkers fans aren't interested in 2 at all. And I dare say a large chunk of the fanbase in english speaking countries is "alt right" aligned and won't like all the virtue signalling they're doing over Ukraine either. Stalker was at it's peak fanbase wise around the same time as that political mess.

Wasn't the studio head a complete fuckhead too? I remember stories of him arriving to work in foreign sports cars while his employees were barely able to afford lunch.
 

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I don't know if any of that shit about sergiy is true or just memes. Ukraine is a relatively poor country but I can't imagine its programmers are struggling that badly. But it was also probably very different in the early 2000s.

I'm not personally interested in S2 because I've come to realize that devs making good games is often serendipity resulting from limitations and when they actually get the means to make the games how they want it's almost always shit. See: metro series. It seems to me to be very likely that S2 will be closer to metro exodus or CODMW2019 than it will be to SoC
 

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It seems to me to be very likely that S2 will be closer to metro exodus or CODMW2019 than it will be to SoC
I can't tell Metro and CoD apart. They're the exact same set piece cinematic shooter. I would expect Nu Stalker to be like Ubisoft games rather than those though. There's no way Microsoft is pushing this and not expecting all the modern quest marker stuff.
 

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