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What the fuck? In an RPG, who really gives a shit what the character initially looks like when the point of the whoile game is to mold the story according to his deeds, not how he looks? There's the "immersion" thing, but if you are playing a character, what difference does it make how he looks (unless that's a factor in the story)?
For the same reason that you're more friendly to strangers you find attractive rather than unattractive.

More to the point, I suspect almost everyone to a degree inserts (hur hur) themselves into the protagonist. After all regardless of the role presented to you, it's your perception of that role that shapes it i.e. you may be playing as a fat wood elf but that imaginary character is completely limited by your personal idea of what a fat wood elf might be like. Much like reading a book, the physical appearance of the protagonist, even if it's described in detail, will look different for both of us. Being able to choose that appearance can help you feel more natural in playing a specific role. Some people don't need this assistance and sometimes, if the story is linear enough, choosing your appearance can ruin the experience.

Generally speaking I dislike having underwear models like Shepard as my hero. I would much rather make some thug looking guy, who grew up on Earth in gang and is missing his left eye or something, it makes the story more believable as to why this psycho commander is going around punching people and committing genocide on aliens.

I wrote all that and said nothing at all. :troll:
 

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Do not misunderstand me here. Things like character appearance are just cosmetics but they still may change your perception slightly. Imagine The Nameless One looks like Cloud from FFVII...

They change it only of you are allowed to chamge the looks. Your example of PST is more to my defence than the opposite since you can't change the looks of the nameless one...

Nonetheless, how the PC is dictated to look changes nothing if you play "right". If he looks stupid, it should be criticised but that's that. If you can change the looks, then that's the case; if you don't, then so be it.
 

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Do not misunderstand me here. Things like character appearance are just cosmetics but they still may change your perception slightly. Imagine The Nameless One looks like Cloud from FFVII...

You might wanna use another example. :M


Cloud's appearance is also important, his eyes at least
I do not know shit about Cloud, haven't ever played FFVII, I just wanted something contrasting to TNO looks without going deeper.
Do not misunderstand me here. Things like character appearance are just cosmetics but they still may change your perception slightly. Imagine The Nameless One looks like Cloud from FFVII...

They change it only of you are allowed to chamge the looks. Your example of PST is more to my defence than the opposite since you can't change the looks of the nameless one...
TNO looks just the part for the story. I already said if that if the plot has a good reason (and it is a very good one) fixed character looks are fine. Why are we even discussing that ?

Nonetheless, how the PC is dictated to look changes nothing if you play "right". If he looks stupid, it should be criticised but that's that. If you can change the looks, then that's the case; if you don't, then so be it.
I don't know what to say...
 

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TNO looks just the part for the story. I already said if that if the plot has a good reason (and it is a very good one) fixed character looks are fine. Why are we even discussing that ?

That's my point. The discussion started when Zombra said he cared for the character's looks and I asked why. Thatä's what I was discussing about.

I don't know what to say...

Then don't say anything. Silence is often the best answer if you can't formulate a verbal one.

what the fuck happened to this thread in 2 pages?

Shit.
 
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Pics of the main character were posted. What else are we going to discuss?

I do not know shit about Cloud, haven't ever played FFVII, I just wanted something contrasting to TNO looks without going deeper.

What I meant is that TNO is one of the rare characters where the appearance isn't a matter of cosmetics (he has to look like a dried up corpse) so he was a bad example. Eh.
 

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the PC has a neckbeard and negative chin. what else is there to discuss?
 

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It is the way of the Codex to argue about smallest stupidest shit possible in a game. This is why I love this place.
 

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What the fuck? In an RPG, who really gives a shit what the character initially looks like
Me. There I am, answering a rhetorical question again ... but the answer is not "no one".

when the point of the whoile game is blah blah blah
Oh, so THAT'S the point of RPGs? Turns out I've been playing them for reasons of my own for about 35 years. Thanks for finally letting me know how "wrong" I was. :lol:

Nonetheless, how the PC is dictated to look changes nothing if you play "right". If you can change the looks, then that's the case; if you don't, then so be it.
Oh, I absolutely agree. Not every game needs customization - again, I like what PB has done with this lame looking guy in Risen 3. (I just hope his voice actor isn't as grating as the guy from Gothic ...)
 
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I suppose it could just be that the nameless char got older.... I mean last game he was an alcoholic/layabout/sellout to the inquisition. Maybe in Risen 4 he will just be a hunchback old guy with a white beard and blunderbuss.
As far as I understand from the information revealed about the game, the protagonist of Risen 3 will be a different one than that of Risen 1/2.

undecaf is a dumbfuck. As long as the game has a visual presentation, the appearance of characters (both the protagonist and the NPCs) do matter. No one likes to stare at a fugly mug of a protagonist for dozens of hours of gameplay. If a game doesn't have character customization, the protagonist at least should be of the tabula rasa kind, that is possessing a generic appearance and not forcing his personality on you. So far, PB games managed to pull that off (although some might say that the hero of Gothics 1/2 had too much personality).
 

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I think you are leaning a bit too far in the other direction. There is an appeal to having a fixed look/personality in an rpg. Plenty of jRPG's go that way, I suppose a recent cRPG example would be the twitcher. It just depends on how you want to tell your story, or deliver your erm.... game mechanics? Anyway the point is, both methods are perfectly acceptable if you do them well, the only idiotic thing to say is that one or the other is somehow fundamentally a mistake that should never exist in a vydia game.

You see what I'm sayin?
 
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Uh, this guy does have a generic appearance, it's just a generically ugly one instead of a generically bald space marine one or a generically Fabio-like one. I see dozens of guys like him on the street everyday. For all we know, he's as tabula rasa as it gets.
 

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So in this game you play as a farm-hand?

BTW, I noticed that many balding guys grow facial hair, as if beard made them look less bald. Usually though, it makes them look even worse. This is the way you wanna go once you start thinning out:
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