Revisiting VtM: Bloodlines

[Xeon]

Troika made not one but several blowjob scenes?

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I kinda liked Issac, thought he was like a father figure to Ash and Vivi[?].

That image is ruined now.

 

[Starwars]

Go go Codex!
:trigglypuff:

 

[Prime Junta]

Spoiler

I kinda liked Issac, thought he was like a father figure to Ash and Vivi[?].

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That sort of thing is unheard-of in gay circles, I know.

 

[Cael]

- Bloodlines already includes gay and bi characters. Basically all female NPCs are bi, Tommy is clearly gay and the Empire desk clerk doesn't sound straight either.
- You can have sex with a woman and a man during the game already and Troika had to hide all the blowjobs, which I restored, probably because of censorship.
- People playing the basic patch won't see this and people not interested in histories won't see this either.
- What a great community the RPG players here are calling gay people "faggots" the first chance they get.

Several things here.

1. You can have sex with different people, yes, but is it homosexual sex? The only one I remember with Bloodlines that has the potential for that is Heather (and you play a female character), but that is because she is your ghoul (and they Flanderised the crap out of it in the game; it is NOT that obsessive on the first drink). Granted, I don't remember much of Bloodlines, so I am likely wrong.

2. I don't know if Tommy is homosexual, but I do recall that he is an arrogant asshole with self-esteem problems.

3. It is either faggots or homosexuals, and I suppose faggots is easier to type. I certainly won't call them gay myself as, if you believe the SJW hype, they are the most miserable, suicidal people on the planet.

 

[Cael]

Spoiler

I kinda liked Issac, thought he was like a father figure to Ash and Vivi[?].

Spoiler

That sort of thing is unheard-of in gay circles, I know.

Hilariously, out of all the characters in the game, Isaac might be just about the most "good guy" type in a pretty crapsack world (that is non-Anarch). Him and the Nosferatu leader (can't remember his name).

 

[Wesp5]

1. You can have sex with different people, yes, but is it homosexual sex?

No, and you can't have some with the patch either. Rather the opposite if you choose that history!

2. I don't know if Tommy is homosexual, but I do recall that he is an arrogant asshole with self-esteem problems.

He is hinting very stongly at it: Player: I just love your work. (Seduction 5 & pc.IsMale) -> Tommy: Always good to meet someone with... similar tastes.

3. It is either faggots or homosexuals, and I suppose faggots is easier to type.

Ah, so this isn't meant as an insult? It surely sounded like one to me...

 

[Wesp5]

Tbh it's not about homosexuality and if it fits in a Vampire game (it does actually), the real question is why would you waste any time to add that in the game in the first place.

It started out rather like a proof of concept after people were discussing it over half a year on Planet Vampire in the thread already mentioned here and couldn't get it done. Which made me wonder and try for myself. As genders are switched already during the intro it wasn't really that difficult to pull off and once I had the idea to make it a history which nobody affronted should care about I just included it. It's only a quick ugly hack using models from other clans, no new dialogues, no new sex encounters, no nothing. Like with the Sabbat ending, if someone want's to make a real mod, now they can!

 

[Cael]

He is hinting very stongly at it: Player: I just love your work. (Seduction 5 & pc.IsMale) -> Tommy: Always good to meet someone with... similar tastes.

That would be why. I never took the code apart. I would have taken that statement as Subterfuge, not Seduction.

Ah, so this isn't meant as an insult? It surely sounded like one to me...

No idea. I cannot speak for others as to their intentions. I can only speak for myself, and I never used the term "faggots" before. Then again, I am one of those who hate txt speak, so I make allowances for people who do not share my respect for the Queen's English.

 

[Zombra]

I feel like you are thinking to much into [the ramifications of vampire sex] at this point. Not everything has to make 100% sense.

True, but it is more entertaining to remember that vampires are dead and don't have the same hungers or pleasures that living people do. It's good to get farther away from "vampires are just people with cool powers who don't like sunlight". There's actually a great dialogue in Bloodlines itself where the female Malkavian taunts the horny zombie hunter guy with a gross and horrifying description of what it would be like to simulate sex with her.

 

[Lambach]

Basically, the big issue here is that by including the possibility of a homo PC you've taken a step towards turning VtMB into Twilight.

 

[ArchAngel]

3. It is either faggots or homosexuals, and I suppose faggots is easier to type.

Ah, so this isn't meant as an insult? It surely sounded like one to me...

Why does is sound like an insult to you? Are you a faggot?

 

[Prime Junta]

Basically, the big issue here is that by including the possibility of a homo PC you've taken a step towards turning VtMB into Twilight.

Twilight was written by and manifests the values of a socially super conservative Mormon.

 

[Infinitron]

Yep, this is definitely a genre for people who admire traditional medieval fantasy moral values. No queers allowed!

 

[Kev Inkline]

Let the man mod. It's not like you are forced to use the patch, unless you are compelled by your scientific passion for homosexuality, like HHR is.

 

[Jimmious]

World of Darkness was always very "sexually open". I'm surprised people think otherwise. Vampires were always considered seductive creatures that could fuck anything because .. why not, they're just toys after all.

 

[Kev Inkline]

World of Darkness was always very "sexually open". I'm surprised people think otherwise. Vampires were always considered seductive creatures that could fuck anything because .. why not, they're just toys after all.

And the most famous vampires hail from....Trans-sylvania.....

 

[Prime Junta]

inb4 rhps

 

[Roguey]

Guise, even the title Vampire: The Masquerade sounds foppish as fuck. I'm sure Tim Cain would approve of this feature, and only didn't include something like it originally on account of most players being skittish regarding male homosexuality, that is, a reaction similar to this:

 

[Wesp5]

Why does is sound like an insult to you? Are you a faggot?

No, but I'm not a native English speaker either and in German the translation of "faggot" would be an insult compared to "gay".

 

[Cael]

World of Darkness was always very "sexually open". I'm surprised people think otherwise. Vampires were always considered seductive creatures that could fuck anything because .. why not, they're just toys after all.

You need to look up the jiangshi and the penanggalen one day, dude. And I don't mean the WoD ones.

And in the original Dracula, he was as seductive as a Nosferatu except he made Nosferatus smell like roses. In WoD, they made him a Tzimisce, I believe.

 

[ArchAngel]

Why does is sound like an insult to you? Are you a faggot?

No, but I'm not a native English speaker either and in German the translation of "faggot" would be an insult compared to "gay".

Did you misswrite Codex into google when you were trying to write reddit ?

 

[Wesp5]

I've searched through planet vampire and the only thread where VERY FEW people asked for it is this one: https://forums.planetvampire.com/bloodlines-modding/gay-intro-and-other-stuff/

And this:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/2600/discussions/0/133257324797627042/
http://steamcommunity.com/app/2600/discussions/0/451848855028393724/
http://steamcommunity.com/app/2600/discussions/0/604941528487727817/

 

[Nerevar]

So let me get this straight another one of these self-hating German bugmen wants to force his own homosexual mental illness on a top tier RPG that did not have such things originally?

Well in that case I demand you add a cuckold history and a refugee player history also instead of drinking blood the vampires can drink soy milk, it matches the personality of the faggot untermensch who would think adding homosexuality fanfiction to a game is a good idea.

 

[Lambach]

Twilight was written by and manifests the values of a socially super conservative Mormon.

I don't think necrophilia and beastiality are particularly socially conservative.

 

[Goral]

World of Darkness was always very "sexually open".

Really? Give me some examples from the 90s then. I'm waiting.