Red Dead Redemption 2 - now available on PC

[vonAchdorf]

Isn’t hunting the only way to craft certain clothes?

Yes, but honestly it's busy work and LARPing. IMO, you don't really need the improved equipment. Why get a bigger satchel to carry more $5 loot, if you already have thousands of dollars in cash?

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

I find hunting on Red Dead very relaxing also fishing. But i enjoyed this game at a really slow pace breathing it the fantastic atmosphere and beauty of the locations.

You also will notice a lot of details. Like eagles darting down pulling up small creatures or fishes. Carnivores hunting for food and all other small details that are amazing and make the world feel more alive.

I don't get this criticism about survival. This game was never marketed as survival to start with.

 

[Swigen]

Yeah, I enjoyed the fuck out of playing Texas Hold ‘em amidst the ambiance of saloons and camp and whatnot. I didn’t pay much attention to hunting but some of the pics posted earlier in this thread by people that did care and took the time to dress sharp, left me feeling pretty envious.

 

[RNGsus]

This is all true, but the game's still great.

Great is an exaggeration. Its the best Skyrim mod I ever played.

 

[vonAchdorf]

This is all true, but the game's still great.

Great is an exaggeration. Its the best Skyrim mod I ever played.

Even if including loverslab mods?

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

To me the game felt great. Some may say the gameplay is sloppy but actually moving Arthur during shotout made me feel like it was real. The sense of weight on the animations is what i love about it also is not fast paced and wounded ennemies react pretty well. Some folk complains about arthur movements because let's face it in modern games in order to keep the game smooth there is not physics on the characters they move like if they are skating on the ground and turns in a unrealistic manner.

Rockstar was really bold to put the combat and the movement as it is. When you fall you can actually sense the weight of the falling due to the awesome sounds but also the fantastic ragdolling.

The only complain i have to make about the combat is the cover system. Sometimes it screws up and Arthur end to take cover on the opposite direction you want him to get cover but is mostly a pathing problem i think.

 

[sullynathan]

Fishing sucks and Arthur says so, but hunting deer and all the dozens of animals is pretty relaxing albeit really time consuming. Watch out for Cougars, they'll get you when you least expect it.

Arthur is a better character than Geralt, his development, characterization and story was more tragic than the Ciri stuff.

 

[vonAchdorf]

FFXV has better fishing. But fishing sucks in almost any game.

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

Yeah the Cougars are the ultimate villains of this game. You are just passing by and they jump on you very fast killing you in an instant.

 

[sullynathan]

R* always had some of the better writers in the industry any way, they've just made mostly goofy games which means they don't always get the credit they should. RDR2 had far better characters than most rpgs the codex likes.

 

[Echo Mirage]

Yeah the Cougars are the ultimate villains of this game. You are just passing by and they jump on you very fast killing you in an instant.

Something never change. They were the number one cause of death for me in the original game.

 

[DalekFlay]

I finished the game and had me in tears. On writing atmosphere and soundtrack but even in the overall detail rockstar did really a fantastic job. Heck i enjoyed the story of this game and the characters way more than Witcher 3.

Any story praise for this kind of baffles me. I mean I guess it's okay for a "cinematic" video game story, but would anyone compare this in ANY way quality wise to something like Deadwood or Unforgiven? I mean come the fuck on.

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

It has well written characters,great pacing and a lot details about the setting and the world. It subvert expectation considering who played the first game was aware all the time how the game would end still they managed to pull out a fantastic story and not even a movie quality one but a book quality one.
They truly have an amazing writing team and characters big or small they may be are well defined and memorable.

There are not characters with no flaws and some of them evolve or devolve in a very organic and credible way.

I mean it is indeed a pretty good writing.

When i said better than witcher 3 is because the story is. Witcher 3 writing was good but also bad in some spots. Like the wild hunt king that his best line was blatantly stolen from the Lion King "Long live the king" after he murdered the old Wild Hunt king and it felt monodimentional and kinda childish as character.

 

[DalekFlay]

It has well written characters,great pacing and a lot details about the setting and the world. It subvert expectation considering who played the first game was aware all the time how the game would end still they managed to pull out a fantastic story and not even a movie quality one but a book quality one.
They truly have an amazing writing team and characters big or small they may be are well defined and memorable.

There are not characters with no flaws and some of them evolve or devolve in a very organic and credible way.

I mean it is indeed a pretty good writing.

It's good for a cinematic videogame, sure. Without that qualifier though, sorry... I think you're batshit. One random episode of Deadwood has more of all those things than RDR2 could ever hope to have.

Video game stories exceed when they embrace what videogames are. Interactive worlds, dialog you can shape and impact, worlds you can influence and explore, lore you can dive into and feel a part of. Rockstar games have none of that, they're just cutscenes between action missions. Non-interactive cutscenes have never, in any videogame ever, been something that can compare to a well done movie or high-end television show. That doesn't mean they can't be entertaining, but if you want to see these themes and styles done a million times better then watch Deadwood, Unforgiven, No Country for Old Men, etc. THAT is good writing.

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

I would never compare videogames with movies. To me if a game has a well written story is a plus. But i won't expect the game to be all about that. Your comparsion is not fair as the focus is different. My comparsion were centered between two games known to have good writing.

 

[Silva]

You want stories in videogames, play the likes of What Remains of Edith Finch, Kentucky Route Zero or SOMA, for fucks sake. At least they don't try to cheat the player into believing they are anything more than a walking sim, and they even have plot and writing that's genuinely good. This shit is a scam.

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

I like the slow pacing of the game but i can understand is not for everyone. The open world is pretty organic.

If you are talking about true walking simulator play Death Stranding then come back.

 

[DalekFlay]

I would never compare videogames with movies. To me if a game has a well written story is a plus. But i won't expect the game to be all about that. Your comparsion is not fair as the focus is different. My comparsion were centered between two games known to have good writing.

Sounds like we're actually on the same page then. I definitely took your slow and romantic style blowjob posts to indicate it was some amazing writing/story in general.

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

Well it is indeed a nice story. It may be not epic and it may be more grounded that the average SUPER EPIC ARCH we know about like the 99% of the videogame but felt good believable wich is nice considering it comes from a videogames. The story is so grounded that overall all the events felt natural and even something believable to happen.

I liked the grey shades and the sense of hope but also hopeless situations presented on it avoiding spoilers i loved Arthur it is a tragic character that has his whole life forced to take a turn watching everything he loves fall apart.

It is an amazing story. It is pretty good writing over there.

 

[Manjuice Nutella]

Doesn't it regularly crash for you as well after a few hours?

Not since last patch. They said it was a memory leak they fixed.

I'm not saying the game didn't have issues. It sounds like the launch was pretty bad, tech-wise. I started like 3 patches in so it was a lot better for me. I'm solely talking about performance. I get irritated when people on older computers, using too high of settings, scream that something is poorly optimized. I believe that kind of thing is why so few games have higher tier options for future gameplay, because if people can't max it RIGHT NOW they get pissed. Sounds like you're being more realistic though, so sorry if I was triggered into being a douche. tl;dr it runs great on a 2070 and Ryzen 3600.

No problem bro. Anyway the problem was the HDD. Of course, it’s just one of many issues with it over the past few months, slowly getting bad sectors etc. Nuked the windows in my PC and the game is now smooth (well, 30-40 FPS smooth, but I never cared about 60fps as long as the refresh rate is good. Maybe it’ll bite me back in Online, but I think it’s not Fortnite twitch where you need every frame to be competitive).

It still stutters a tiny bit when the view switches to scope weapon for the first time afternoon loading etc, but I assume they’ll just disappear when I set up an SSD. It’s high time.

I don't deny that my laptop for 2020 AAA mainstream games will be potato-tier perhaps

Just out of curiosity, why you game on laptops? I don't think a mid-tier desktop is drastically more expensive than a gaming laptop.

For now I’m living in a big city with your typical overpriced room rent, and don’t want to chain myself with a desktop. I can easily pack it when going on holidays too, but it’s not such a huge factor. Plus it’s really nice to play with KB when laying in your bed, especially stoned, so I don’t think I would go back. I’ll just get a better laptop with RTX 2070 or 3070 in the future, I think.

 

[CrunchyHemorrhoids]

Only been playing for a couple of hours, but is there any good reason/later mechanic that justifies the gamepad horse controls requiring you to keep the "go forward" button held down in order to maintain horse speed? In games like Zelda BOTW/SOTC you only need to press and release that button once for the horse to get moving and maintain that speed on its own. You don't need to keep any button held down or a thumbstick pressed in a direction for it to keep moving, pressing and releasing the "faster/slower" buttons again then acts as shift up/shift down for the horse's speed which it will again maintain on its own.

For gamepads the rdr2 scheme is still preferable to the N64-era horse controls you find in the last couple of AC games/witcher 3 (which may be easier to jump into for first-time gamepad users, far worse in the longer run), but I don't see a benefit to forcing the player to keep those buttons held down to keep the horse going. If you then want to rotate the camera around you while riding you even have to shift your index finger from the right shoulder button/right trigger down to the bottom face button (xbox "A", ps "X") in order to free up your thumb to use the right/camera thumbstick at the same time: the "claw".

Not exactly the best ergonomy. The longer the ride the more annoying it's gonna be to have to keep that button constantly held down.

I'm aware that in cinematic mode the horse autodrives to any set waypoint but it's not the same.

 

[GewuerzKahn]

For a second I thought the office chair leg is your dick.

 

[DalekFlay]

If you use KBM like an adult then horse only requires keeping W held down, which is super normal for moving forward. Speed goes up and down using shift and control, also very normal.

 

[RNGsus]

These games are becoming life simulators, that's the problem.

 

[DalekFlay]

These games are becoming life simulators, that's the problem.

It's odd too, considering what a mainstream game it is. Though I guess games with survival elements are some of the most popular games in the world (Minecraft, etc.) so what the fuck do we know.